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Garza is as good as gone,,, its already mid july, if they were planning on extending him there would of been some talks / offers being made already..
cubs arent going to wait until after the deadline to start talking extension and risk that there no deal getting done, and end up with just a draft pick for him
 

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Heyman tweets Orioles no longer talking to cubs about Garza. Asking price too high for them.

And the fact that they already traded for Feldman....
 

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Gotta give Garza credit at least, the dude is pitching amazing right now under tons of controversy about being traded, and if he does wind up being traded, he did a good job bumping up his value.
 

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From beat writer Richard Durrett of ESPN Dallas:

Many of the same teams that have had strong interest in Chicago Cubs right-hander Matt Garza were on hand to watch his outing on Saturday night at Wrigley Field.

The Texas Rangers and Toronto Blue Jays remain the front-runners for a trade with Chicago, according to industry sources. The Boston Red Sox, Cleveland Indians and San Francisco Giants have also expressed strong interest in the pitcher.

Garza was not great in that start, allowing two earned runs on 10 hits and two walks over 6 2/3 innings against the rival Cardinals. But he still has a shiny 3.17 ERA and 1.14 WHIP in 71 total innings this season and he’s probably the best available starting pitcher on the trade market (unless the Phillies suddenly decide to shop ace left-hander Cliff Lee).

Garza, 29, is making $10.25 million this season in his final year of salary arbitration. Phil Rogers of the Chicago Tribune hears that he will be traded before his next turn in the Cubs’ starting rotation.

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2...rs-for-matt-garza/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

with the break, matt garza could be slotted to start their first game on Friday against the rockies
 

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Cubs star righthander Matt Garza, who separated himself as the top available starting pitcher with a string of impressive recent outings, has received notice that he will likely be traded after contract talks didn't produce an extension. Garza is drawing interest from the Rangers, Indians, Red Sox and Cardinals, among others.

Texas and Cleveland seem to be clear players while Boston's interest might depend somewhat on the return schedule of injured star Clay Buchholz, which is unclear. St. Louis is believed by others to be a stealth player in the derby for the red-hot righthander.

Just about every contender has checked in on Garza at some point, as he is the lone No. 1 or 2 type pitcher on the block. He is particularly appealing since he is battled-tested in the American League East, from back in his Rays days.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/j...y-be-dealt-texas-tribe-bosox-cards-etc-in-mix

looks like a deal will be made by Thursday...
 

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I really hope St. Louis are players; they got some pitching prospects I like.....

Not really a fan of Boston or Toronto, weak farms. And Heyman suggests Toronto isnt even involved, just speculated.

Giants are interesting, but their prized young pitcher Kyle Crick is likely off limits, although they have a handful of 25 year old pitchers in AAA just sitting there.
 

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I really hope St. Louis are players; they got some pitching prospects I like.....

Not really a fan of Boston or Toronto, weak farms. And Heyman suggests Toronto isnt even involved, just speculated.

Giants are interesting, but their prized young pitcher Kyle Crick is likely off limits, although they have a handful of 25 year old pitchers in AAA just sitting there.

i dont care who they trade him too, just as long as they get at least 1 major league ready prospect in return that will be part of the team next year.
 

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I really hope St. Louis are players; they got some pitching prospects I like.....

Not really a fan of Boston or Toronto, weak farms. And Heyman suggests Toronto isnt even involved, just speculated.

Giants are interesting, but their prized young pitcher Kyle Crick is likely off limits, although they have a handful of 25 year old pitchers in AAA just sitting there.

If Theo makes a deal with St Louis, I don't care who they get in return, he should be shot. It was one thing to deal a reliever to Cinci, but to give a pennant potential team a solid starter like Garza would be ridiculous.

We are trying to catch the Cardinals any way we can..........not distance ourselves from them.
 

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If Theo makes a deal with St Louis, I don't care who they get in return, he should be shot. It was one thing to deal a reliever to Cinci, but to give a pennant potential team a solid starter like Garza would be ridiculous.

We are trying to catch the Cardinals any way we can..........not distance ourselves from them.

You can deal with them, but they have to pay more then the typical suitor would have to. Which makes a deal less likely, but dealing with in division rivals who are already good isn't fun to do in the first place, so if you can screw them over why not. If all you get is "pennies on the dollar" from everyone else, you make St. Louis pay for the whole dollar and then some.
 

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I don't understand why we are talking extension with Jeff, but not with Garza.

They are almost as same age, so the whole idea of him being too old applies to Jeff to.

And Garza has some killer stuff, threw the no hitter.

Re-sign Garza, and heck of a team player.

what does a team player do for a sport that is individual? Pies? Cheering in the dugout? does that make the guys hit the ball? does it make them catch it? nope!

stop with the teammszzz playerszzzz
 

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If Theo makes a deal with St Louis, I don't care who they get in return, he should be shot. It was one thing to deal a reliever to Cinci, but to give a pennant potential team a solid starter like Garza would be ridiculous.

We are trying to catch the Cardinals any way we can..........not distance ourselves from them.

Just curious, don't take this the wrong way -- Were you mad when the Cubs traded with the Pirates and landed Aramis Ramirez?
 

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Just curious, don't take this the wrong way -- Were you mad when the Cubs traded with the Pirates and landed Aramis Ramirez?

Considering the Cubs were trading away prospects for a much needed 3B man who had power and giving themselves a chance at winning the division.......No!

But Pittsburgh nor any other NL Central foe will ever be equated to St Louis.
 

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Just curious, don't take this the wrong way -- Were you mad when the Cubs traded with the Pirates and landed Aramis Ramirez?

That deal is the complete opposite of the Cubs trading Garza to St Louis.

The Cubs landing Ramirez was a major piece to the team going to the playoffs three times in six seasons.

Pirate fans should have been furious at trading a young quality player to a Division Rival.
 

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Hardball talk

Garza told he wi be traded.

Jays the front runner.
 

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We are trying to catch the Cardinals any way we can..........not distance ourselves from them.

he a FA this off season, so its not like the cardinals own control over him after the season, if they trade him there for remainder of season.
 

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Rangers willing to deal Mike Olt in order to land Matt Garza? Really hope he's not the centerpiece...

i dont think the cubs or most other teams for that matter are interested in mike olt any more, so i just dont see olt being involved unless the rangers beg to get rid of him.. he 24 and spinning downward
 

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ESPN.com's Bruce Levine reported: The Texas Rangers and Toronto Blue Jays remain the front-runners for a trade with Chicago, according to industry sources. The Boston Red Sox, Cleveland Indians and San Francisco Giants have also expressed strong interest in the pitcher. Texas and Toronto were the main suitors for Garza in July 2012 before he injured his elbow and missed the rest of the season. The two clubs have had numerous evaluators watching Garza over his past three starts. Texas has had four scouts watching overall. When that type of evaluation is involved, general managers are carefully looking at the reports as a final part of the process. The Cubs will be looking for pitching and run-producer prospects in return for Garza. The Rangers' Mike Olt would most likely be a part of any deal if Chicago and Texas agree on a trade. The 25-year-old Olt is a power hitting third baseman and outfielder.


Garza Informed He'll Likely Be Traded
By Edward Creech [July 14 at 3:30pm CST]
The Cubs have informed Matt Garza he will likely be traded after contract talks failed to produce an extenstion, reports Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com. The Rangers and Indians, according to Heyman, are clearly interested in Garza while the Red Sox are waiting upon some clarity on the return of injured starter Clay Buchholz. The Cardinals, meanwhile, are believed to be a stealth player for the fifth-ranked free agent on MLBTR's 2014 Free Agent Power Rankings. Yesterday, we learned the Blue Jays are "front runners" in the Garza trade derby, but Heyman writes there is little to no evidence, at the moment, they are actively involved.

Heyman reports the hangup in the negotiations between Garza and the Cubs is over the average annual value of the deal. Just last night, Garza still pegged the odds of returning to Chicago as 50/50.
 

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Interesting Bo sox or Rangers.

Got me thinking Middlebrooks or Olt and a arm from either.

Might become a shocker where they deal with Boston with Theo's knowledge of that system.
 

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