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I don't understand why Pippen is being equated to a franchise player, if Seattle thought he was a franchise player coming out of the draft, they wouldn't have traded him.
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I know I've stated this before, there have been ony three players that were able to lead their team in every major category. Those categories being pts, rbds, asts, blks, stls. Dave Cowens, Kevin Garnett, and our own........ Scottie Pippen.
And just to put some scale to this feat, there's been more players that have avg 35 ppg in a season. Kobe did it once, jordan did it twice, and wilt chamberlain did it I believe three times.
So your more likely to see a player avg 35 ppg than lead their team in all major categories
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This makes no sense. You were better off just being heff and ramis hype man.
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What doesn't make sense?
That I put Pippen's career in perspective for you?
Pippen is not, never was and never will be a franchise player in the NBA.
I'm really sorry no one told you that Pippen wasn't a franchise player.
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What the hell does that mean?
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Are you saying that because Seattle was dumb enough to think that Olden Polynice was a frachise player is the reason that Pippen isn't a frachise player?????
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What the hell does that mean?
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Are you saying that because Seattle was dumb enough to think that Olden Polynice was a frachise player is the reason that Pippen isn't a frachise player?????
It means that Pippen was never a franchise player....the Bulls did not acquire Pippen to be a franchise player.
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just because a player isn't drafted by a team to be the franchise player doesn't mean the player can't become one.
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Exactly...Pippen never was a franchise player.....Pippen himself believes that's the case.
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It never happened with Pippen. It could have if he had been on a different team but the chances that he could have led a team to a championship against Jordan's Bulls and Olajuwon's Rockets is terribly unrealistic.
Pippen has his rightful place in history as one of the best players during a generation. He was a top 10 player during the 90's and that's plenty to brag about.
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No player in the history of the game of basketball would be drafted to be a franchise player on the same team of Michael Jordan....
And you just said Pippen was in the top ten of all players in the 90s....The top ten players of each decade are franchis players or els they wouldt be in the top ten for the decade.
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ANOTHER POINT THAT ISN'T BROUGHT UP HERE IS THAT SCOTTIE PIPPEN WAS IN THE STARTING 5 FOR THE FIRST DREAM TEAM...THAT MEANS PIPPEN WAS IN THE TOP FIVE PLAYERS IN THE USA....THE DREAM TEAM SMASHED EVERY OPPONANT IN THE WORLD. THAT MEANS PIPPEN IN 1992 WAS IN THE TOP FIVE PLAYERS IN THE WORLD.
THE 1992 DREAM TEAM IS THE GREATEST TEAM IN HISTORY. PIPPEN WAS IN THE TOP FIVE OF PLAYERS ON THE GREATEST TEAM IN HISTORY WHICH MEANS THAT PIPPEN IS IN THE TOP FIVE OF PLAYERS THAT EVER PLAYED THE GAME OF BASKETBALL IN HISTORY...
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No player in the history of the game of basketball would be drafted to be a franchise player on the same team of Michael Jordan....
And you just said Pippen was in the top ten of all players in the 90s....The top ten players of each decade are franchis players or els they wouldt be in the top ten for the decade.
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ANOTHER POINT THAT ISN'T BROUGHT UP HERE IS THAT SCOTTIE PIPPEN WAS IN THE STARTING 5 FOR THE FIRST DREAM TEAM...THAT MEANS PIPPEN WAS IN THE TOP FIVE PLAYERS IN THE USA....THE DREAM TEAM SMASHED EVERY OPPONANT IN THE WORLD. THAT MEANS PIPPEN IN 1992 WAS IN THE TOP FIVE PLAYERS IN THE WORLD.
THE 1992 DREAM TEAM IS THE GREATEST TEAM IN HISTORY. PIPPEN WAS IN THE TOP FIVE OF PLAYERS ON THE GREATEST TEAM IN HISTORY WHICH MEANS THAT PIPPEN IS IN THE TOP FIVE OF PLAYERS THAT EVER PLAYED THE GAME OF BASKETBALL IN HISTORY...
Just because you are in the starting line-up of a team, it doesn't mean that you are in the top 5 players on a team. Toni Kukoc was the 3rd or 4th player on the Bulls and he came off of the bench.
And you can't be a franchise player unless you had a team built around you. Therefore, Pippen was not a franchise player.
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That is not the arguement. The argument is that Pippen was franchise player material.
Take Jordan off of the Bulls and Pippen is the franchise player.
In the 1994 and 95 season in Jordans absence, Scottie Pippen was the Bulls franchise player.
From 1995 to 98, the Bulls had 2 franchise players.....
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The 2011 Miami Heat had 3 franchise players.
The lakers had 2 franchise players in 3 differant eras.
The 90s Bulls had 2 franchise players throughout the 90s which is why they won 6 titles.
The same reason the 2000s Lakers won 5 title.
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Scottie Pippen didn't start on the Dream Team...
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSb0kn3Ex18]USA vs Cuba 1992 - Dream Team `s first official game - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSb0kn3Ex18]USA vs Cuba 1992 - Dream Team `s first official game - YouTube[/ame]
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I Know, Bird and Barkley were the starting forwards.
That last response was just a booby trap.
I'm going to set you free now and give you some neosporin for your wombs.
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LOL...you have to explain this to a dude who claims he knows basketball...sad.
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Based on what I saw from his 94 and 95 seasons and the teams he had, id say he'd fair no worse than malone, barkley, ewing etc. Each of them had a year or two with the most talented team.
Look at it this way, he was third in the mvp voting in 94. He missed 10 games and grant missed his share of games. If he plays the whole year, the bulls probably end up with the second best record in the league and he'd probably get the mvp
In 95, he led the bulls to a second ranked defense, led the league in stls and was the highest vote getter for the all nba team. And he really didn't have any great defenders on the team besides him. Ron Harper was used sparringly. and pete myers was a scrappy defender. If the bulls had better talent, he probably would've won the dpoy award.
Even though the all nba award is more prestigous because its voted on by the coaches and GMs. He led all vote getters
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Do you think that other teams don't have injuries? I don't know how many times I need to say the same thing. Pippen was only a top 10 player because of his defense. If you want to win in the playoffs, you need a caliber scorer that can consistently make difficult shots in the face of dominant defenses. Jordan was that player. Olajuwon, Malone, Barkley, and Robinson were those kind of players. Pippen wasn't.
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If Kobe Bryant left the Lakers after winning 3 championships, signed with Detroit, San Antonio, or Miami, and won a championship with any of them would he be considered a franchise player?
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