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THE REASON THEY CALL IT A FRANCHISE PLAYER IS BECAUSE IT IS ONE GUY WHO A TEAM IS BUILT AROUND.

Jesus Christ, Sp94 is dense.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but under the new Rami law recently passed, LeBron and Wade are no longer franchise players as Miami was not built around one, but three players.

This new law is not up for debate.
 

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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but under the new Rami law recently passed, LeBron and Wade are no longer franchise players as Miami was not built around one, but three players.

This new law is not up for debate.

Right on brother.

According to Ramis Rules, Magic Johnson, Moses Malone and Oscar Robertson arnt franchise players either because Kareem and Julius Irving were alrready on there teams before they arrived....Kobe was brought in to be Shaqs Tonto..
 

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The six championships are because of Jordan. If Pippen was never traded from Seattle on draft day, he would probably be ringless.

I was much more impressed with Scottie's defense than his offense. But I am impressed at what he was able to become. He was an extremely versatile player and was an essential reason the Bulls won 6 titles. But he was not the reason- that was Jordan.

Wilkens had a team built around him. If Pippen had a team built around him also, you would not be hearing the phrase 6-time NBA champion Scottie Pippen.



You also would not hear the phrase 6-time NBA champion Michael Jordan.

Maybe 2 or 3 spread through out his career. Or maybe you would just know him as that guy who scored alot, won mutiple scoring titles, but never won a ring ala Ewing, Barkley, ect.

I guess we'll never know. All we can go on are facts.

And the facts are:

Jordan rings with team built around him before Pippen = 0

Jordan rings after Pippen = 0
 

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Well a by golly gee wiz, then that means Joe Smith and Pervis Ellison are franchise players too.
 

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I don't understand why Pippen is being equated to a franchise player, if Seattle thought he was a franchise player coming out of the draft, they wouldn't have traded him.

If Shawn "I'm going to need you to pee in this cup" Kemp was considered a franchise player and made it to the finals i'm going to go out on a limb and say Seattle might have done ok with Pippen.
 

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If Shawn "I'm going to need you to pee in this cup" Kemp was considered a franchise player and made it to the finals i'm going to go out on a limb and say Seattle might have done ok with Pippen.

Does Pippen turn into the player Bulls fans saw with out the help of MJ though?
 

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It means that Pippen was never a franchise player....the Bulls did not acquire Pippen to be a franchise player.

It means that Kobe was not a franchise player....the Lakers did not acquire Kobe to be a franchise player.

Allegedly.
 

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Does Pippen turn into the player Bulls fans saw with out the help of MJ though?

Defense and competive drive are natural with Pippen.
Athletism, high basketball IQ and talent was already posessed in Pippen before he was a Bull with or without Jordan...

I think the real question should be, would All Pippens talents been harnessed properly without Phil Jackson or without a great coach?
The same question goes for MJ.
 

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I pretty much already did. It's just a guy who typically can put butts in the seats and a guy who takes responsibility night-in and night-out for what happens (wins and losses). I don't think Pippen classifies as a franchise player. He was certainly the best player on the team when Jordan was out for 18 months but it's not like that whole team was built around him.

Are you smart enough to know that in trying to diminish Pippen your own words just made him seem even better?

If you lose your "franchise player" there's a good chance most teams won't win 25 games let alone make the playoffs and be one bad call away from the Conf. finals.

As you said the team was built around Jordan and he wasn't there in 94.

So with a team not even built for him, Pippen led a team to only 2 less
wins than the previous season after losing there franchise player and were projected to win less than 20 games that season.

That sounds like a franchise player to me.
 

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So with a team not even built for him, Pippen led a team to only 2 less
wins than the previous season after losing there franchise player and were projected to win less than 20 games that season.
That sounds like a franchise player to me.

LOL WHAT?!

Please qualify that, and show me who predicted the 1993-1994 Chicago Bulls to win less than 20 games.

Also, I love how you overlook the next season when Pippen didn't even have the team on pace to win 50.

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They say leaders and franchise players make other players around them better.

If you can make B.J. Armstrong an All-Star I think that qualifies you.
 

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LOL WHAT?!

Please qualify that, and show me who predicted the 1993-1994 Chicago Bulls to win less than 20 games.

Also, I love how you overlook the next season when Pippen didn't even have the team on pace to win 50.

:turrible:


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Sorry, I forgot to save the news paper, magazines, and record the local news that all said the same.

And if you were older than 15 years old you might have remembered that.
 

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If Shawn "I'm going to need you to pee in this cup" Kemp was considered a franchise player and made it to the finals i'm going to go out on a limb and say Seattle might have done ok with Pippen.
Seattle didn't think highly enough of Pippen to keep him. :turrible:
 

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So, basically you are full of shit.

Hey, if you think Fox News Chicago will let you go through all of there archives than be my guest.

I've been told that you are a Nazi and molest animals. Can you prove you aren't or haven't?

If you don't provide evidence to dispute these accusations then by your own logic they are true and you are full of crap.
 

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