No he didn't. Bynum played in all 82 games and started 60 of them. Brown was the pf along with brian cook. Both were much better than the bulls pfs in 95. Corie Blount (as a rookie), Dickie Simpkins, and Larry Krystowiak. And the bulls bigs played against much better centers collectively than the lakers bigs in 07.No he didn't. Bynum played in all 82 games and started 60 of them. Brown was the pf along with brian cook. Both were much better than the bulls pfs in 95. Corie Blount (as a rookie), Dickie Simpkins, and Larry Krystowiak. And the bulls bigs played against much better centers collectively than the lakers bigs in 07.
Andrew Bynum was a foul machine and could not stay in the game. He simply did not have the footing and post-game down that he has today either. He was a raw talent that didn't really help the team when he was in the game. He was a project that the Lakers were developing for the future. Longley was actually a solid team player who picked his spots in the offense and played defense without fouling. That is a huge difference in itself.
And these guys had to defend the DEEPEST PF era in the history of the league. KG, Dirk, TD... what world are you living in?
Kwame Brown was absolutely terrible. He was also foul-prone and has ZERO post game and ZERO shot. Luc Longley and Dickey Simpkins are much better players than Kwame Brown.
What the ****? Kukoc as a second year player from another country wasn't adjusting as I make it seem, but kobe bryant at 27 with 8 years nba exprience and 3 championships under his belt was still adjusting?
Kobe Bryant never had a chance to be a leader on the team and to fully utilize his talents until Shaq left. Kukoc was already comfortable in his role and was a veteran already by his second year in the NBA.
False. Pete Myers was a very solid player while Smush was absolutely terrible on defense and couldn't make a play on offense.
I'm not gonna debate the differences between myers and parker. Both similar players. Neither probably should've been in the league.
Pete Myers didn't make the silly turnovers that Smush Parker did. Myers was a solid defender while Smush was an absolute liability on defense.
Lol luc longley was considered a bust when he joined the bulls. He evolved into what I feel was a solid center but again at that stage in his career, bynum was better. Kwame brown was the PF.
Anybody who thought Longley was going to be an all-star is crazy. He was a solid player and that is more than Bynum or Brown could say back in 2007.
Like I said, when you compare the players, bryant had better teammates. Bryants centers were better, his pfs were better, his SF at that in their careers were better (I do think kukoc was a slightly better player talent-wise but not in his second year)
Kukoc in his second year was practically the same player he was in 1996-2000. And Bryant did not have better teammates or a better team. B.J. Armstrong and Toni Kukoc and role players beats the hell out of Lamar Odom, a raw, foul-prone Bynum, and TRASH (Parker, Kwame, Walton, Vujacic).
Pippen had the better teammates.
so what's the point? Take pippen of the bulls and 95 and they're a lottery team too
False. Armstrong, Kukoc, and solid defensive players and they aren't nearly as bad as the Lakers without Kobe. Almost every game the Lakers won that year was because Kobe bailed them out down the stretch. Pippen rarely did that with the Bulls.
Well damn rami, this is what I've been saying since we've had debates about scottie pippen.
You claimed that Pippen needed a better core to lead a team to a championship. I dismissed that as a realistic possibility because Pippen was not a good enough 1-option to lead a team to a title. Bryant was a good enough 1-option to do that.
We saw what Jordan and the bulls did in 98 without pippen. They were very good but not championship good.
They certainly could have beaten the Jazz without Pippen. The Pacers- doubtful. But still possible.
In 1996 and 1997, they were certainly good enough on the board and defensively to win without Pippen at all. Seattle was not going to stand in Jordan and Rodman's way.
this is not true. He never been a willing passer, and he on pace to hold the record for most TOs ever.
Brett Favre and Peyton Manning are pretty much the INT kings of the NFL. In order to have that kind of record, you have to be incredibly trusted with the ball in your hands.
And congratulations.
By saying that Kobe was never a willing passer, you have just proven you know nothing about him and are slanted against him.
Pippen wouldn't take those shots. So you're point is moot.
Pippen dreams of being able to take those shots. Kobe took hard shots not because he wanted to but because he was forced to. And he gave up the rock when the option was there. And guess what- 2 championships was the result.
