I know why i got fat.

[AussieBear]

im a diet drank person. I was raised on them and i dont like full sugar dranks.

in the past, when i was 215 and below, dropping weight fer various reasons, i noticed id stall if i drank a lot of diet soda. i is talking around 2 litres a day. i noticed then and its benz reaffirmed nows.. if i cut out soda i drop quicker, if not, i stall and slow. towards the end of dropping the 40ish pounds, i started drinking soda again and the weight lost numbers were slowing and i stalled around 30 pounds lost. i thought it may have been the extra sodium..... but it might of been the 1-2 litres of diet drank a day i reintroduced while up late working on me books at the time. could be a combo of both...

on duh side note.. my application was successful and i scored me an interview for dat disability gig.. its a day after me first aid certification course finishes.. is the universeseses linings up..

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

2 liters of soda a day? Do you have kidney stone problems?

 

[AussieBear]

2 liters of soda a day? Do you have kidney stone problems?

never once....years of training i suppose.... ive been known to only drink soda, alcohol and energy drinks for weeks on end...... well dis was in da past...

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

You are going all in here based on a single completely unproven and highly questionable Israeli study using lab mice. Not only that, but many researchers have dismissed this study completely.

ACSH chemist Dr. Josh Bloom



There have been actual human case studies done on artificial sweeteners. For example, 3 separate human studies showing that artificial sweeteners do not in fact increase appetite over alternatives. But you choose to dismiss these human studies, and instead latch on to 1 highly skeptical lab mouse study to prove your entire position. It’s as though you just choose to believe what you want to believe, never mind any actual facts, as long as it lines up with your preconceived opinion.

He got dat warrior spirit doe.

 

[AussieBear]

i think vanity has finally come in2da play and will push me back into supercharged lets kill da fats mode. i was be prepping for me panel interview next week, trying on some dress dress clothes and nun dem bitches fit correctly nemore... i had to go buy some untailored dress pants and they fit n look like hammer pants.... christ, how did i let me get this fat...

me chef pushed off last week cause some party was rescheduled.. so i go in fri and sat to helps.. which be duh next two days.. i dont really feel like cooking.. cooking food commercially reminds me of death and fat... n i dont like being fat............... but i do like the heat of duh kitchen..

i blame marriage n familyhood... if i was chasing strange still.. aint no way in hellz i get all lard bloated.. im tempted to fast fer 2-3 months...whats strange, i watched some documentary about a guy who fasted for 60 ish days on duh water iirc....... he started around the same weight and he lost about the same amount of weight i did when i dropped dat 40 ish pounds.. but i ate all the time... he got scans and before going into ketosis lost like 7-8 pounds of muscle the first week...

 

[Adipost]

im a diet drank person. I was raised on them and i dont like full sugar dranks.

in the past, when i was 215 and below, dropping weight fer various reasons, i noticed id stall if i drank a lot of diet soda. i is talking around 2 litres a day. i noticed then and its benz reaffirmed nows.. if i cut out soda i drop quicker, if not, i stall and slow. towards the end of dropping the 40ish pounds, i started drinking soda again and the weight lost numbers were slowing and i stalled around 30 pounds lost. i thought it may have been the extra sodium..... but it might of been the 1-2 litres of diet drank a day i reintroduced while up late working on me books at the time. could be a combo of both...

on duh side note.. my application was successful and i scored me an interview for dat disability gig.. its a day after me first aid certification course finishes.. is the universeseses linings up..

And if you were drinking 2 liters of sugar per day instead of the chemical artificial sweeteners, you’d probably have gained tons of weight and developed health issues rapidly.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

i think vanity has finally come in2da play and will push me back into supercharged lets kill da fats mode. i was be prepping for me panel interview next week, trying on some dress dress clothes and nun dem bitches fit correctly nemore... i had to go buy some untailored dress pants and they fit n look like hammer pants.... christ, how did i let me get this fat...

me chef pushed off last week cause some party was rescheduled.. so i go in fri and sat to helps.. which be duh next two days.. i dont really feel like cooking.. cooking food commercially reminds me of death and fat... n i dont like being fat............... but i do like the heat of duh kitchen..

i blame marriage n familyhood... if i was chasing strange still.. aint no way in hellz i get all lard bloated.. im tempted to fast fer 2-3 months...whats strange, i watched some documentary about a guy who fasted for 60 ish days on duh water iirc....... he started around the same weight and he lost about the same amount of weight i did when i dropped dat 40 ish pounds.. but i ate all the time... he got scans and before going into ketosis lost like 7-8 pounds of muscle the first week...

If you're truly supercharged to kill da fat and tempted to fast, you really should start the IF 16/8. No need to stretch it to the 18 or 24 hour mark when you're so overweight. You'll see the weight drop quickly and seeing the fast results will inspire you to continue.

Your concerns about losing too much muscle and being hungry while doing intermittent fasting will go away quickly as soon as you've done it for a short time. It's really geared to losing fat by making your body burn more fat. You can certainly always maintain and grow muscle with some exercise. This is not meant to starve you either so you won't be going hungry all the time. Simply have to stop being so dependent on food and thinking about it all the time. Less sugar/artificial sweeteners equate to less hunger. You've already seen a few others, who normally don't eat til noon and stop eating about dinner time, post in this thread so it's certainly not uncommon or unnatural. If you stop eating at 8:00 PM and start at noon, that's 16 hours right there and half of it spent sleeping. So people who eat like this likely are not overweight. But some who do this and think of it as IF might be mistaken cause even a cup of coffee in the early morning would stop the fast right at that point. Only plain water is acceptable during that 16 hour window. You don't have to feel the need to drink too much water though. Really just have to drink when you're thirsty.

For best results, I would not go with these ass clowns' theory about calories are calories no matter what you eat. You wouldn't necessarily have to start eating things you don't like though. Just cut out the junk food and eat more of the things you like that you know are good for you. If you like certain vegetables, just eat them more often and let them be a staple. Continue to eat the meats you like, not being concerned if they have too much fat. If you like butter and cheese, continue to eat them but use real butter as opposed to margarine or some other shit and most health gurus would tell you to get things like butter, creams and cheese from grass fed animals. And you really want to avoid sugary drinks, and treat drinks with artificial sweeteners the same as any other sugary drink that should be avoided. Fruits also have a lot of sugar so not too much of them unless you like avocados which have a lot of healthy fats and fiber.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

And if you were drinking 2 liters of sugar per day instead of the chemical artificial sweeteners, you’d probably have gained tons of weight and developed health issues rapidly.

Except this diet drank person reached 300 pounds and has developed health issues. :lmao:

 

[AussieBear]

Except this diet drank person reached 300 pounds and has developed health issues. :lmao:

cept ive had health issues at 16-28 at various weights from 168-215

i gotz up to 300 pounds doing IF 16/8 without realizing it.... hell id go 20 hours without eating..... but 40 lbs of that fat was the restaurant the first go round; tons of cream and oil.... and me not spitting the shit out.... then coming home and drinking tons dah liquor, beer n wine.... last night i tasted a couple of things but spit the shit out.. at 260 it took nearly 9-10 years, a marriage, n a kid to gain 40-45 pounds.. i was 215-220 when me and duh wife met..

if you go by the bmi chart, sure im severly overweight, but that chart is flawed and outdated. im fat but is it severely, imo, naw// or maybe i is delusional and cant see severly..

at 300 pounds i could really see it and really feel it.. at 260, sure i can see it and can feel it in clothes that dont fit, but i also feel like im 40 pounds away from being okay.. and i is 60 pounds aways from being nice @around 200.. especially if i shave off the hairs n get some skin color back... @ around 185 i start to get ripped ripped n my abs start to pop pop.....if i want to hit numbers below that, i really need to start dropping muscle

i aint so fat im embarrassed... but i is fat enough to where it bothers me... especially the 40-60 pound keg around me gut.. the fat around me chest and arms aint that bad, but its there, i aint denying that..

unlike most here... i got pics id share cause i dont give na **** and will back up me weight...... plus, this is the shit that will be in duh ebook........this is me at 260 pounds... if i drop 40-45 pounds to get around 215-220 me gut looks better and me arms become more defined and im okay on a personal level in a sense.... im leaning to the left so i dont look asymmetrical .. like i be said, i is thick and wide.. look at me shoulders and look at the door... me legs really aint that fat at all, but there is some.. at 200-215 that lil bit of fat starts to melt off me legs... if i drop to 200 im not ripped, but i is decently defined overall and feel okay, well i was in the past anyway.. but i had more muscle in duh past too

 

[Warrior Spirit]

cept ive had health issues at 16-28 at various weights from 168-215

i gotz up to 300 pounds doing IF 16/8 without realizing it.... hell id go 20 hours without eating..... but 40 lbs of that fat was the restaurant the first go round; tons of cream and oil.... and me not spitting the shit out.... then coming home and drinking tons dah liquor, beer n wine.... last night i tasted a couple of things but spit the shit out.. at 260 it took nearly 9-10 years, a marriage, n a kid to gain 40-45 pounds.. i was 215-220 when me and duh wife met..

if you go by the bmi chart, sure im severly overweight, but that chart is flawed and outdated. im fat but is it severely, imo, naw// or maybe i is delusional and cant see severly..

at 300 pounds i could really see it and really feel it.. at 260, sure i can see it and can feel it in clothes that dont fit, but i also feel like im 40 pounds away from being okay.. and i is 60 pounds aways from being nice @around 200.. especially if i shave off the hairs n get some skin color back... @ 185-192 i start to get ripped ripped n my abs start to pop pop.....if i want to hit numbers below that, i really need to start dropping muscle

i aint so fat im embarrassed... but i is fat enough to where it bothers me... especially the 40-60 pound keg around me gut.. the fat around me chest and arms aint that bad, but its there, i aint denying that..

unlike most here... i got pics id share cause i dont give na **** and will back up me weight...... plus, this is the shit that will be in duh ebook........this is me at 260 pounds... if i drop 40-45 pounds to get around 215-220 me gut looks better and me arms become more defined and im okay in a sense.... im leaning to the left so i dont look asymmetrical .. like i be said, i is thick and wide.. look at me shoulders and look at the door... me legs really aint that fat at all, but there is some.. at 200-215 that lil bit of fat starts to melt off me legs... if i drop to 200 im decently defined and feel okay, well i was in the past anyway

Calling BS again, aussie pal... for many things. First, you said you were raised on the diet dranks so, certainly doesn't mean they weren't linked to any health issues you had even when you were very young. Second, There is no way in fuckin' hell you went up to 300 lbs doing 16-8 IF, or thinking you were doing 16-8 IF and especially 20 hours. Just not plausible so not only am I inclined to believe it's an outright lie but, at the very least your memory fails you miserably. Remember, anything other than water in that 16 hours would break the fast. And third, you keep going back and forth, saying at one point you're fully committed to doing whatever it takes to lose the weight and then, just as quickly, coming back and making excuses for not doing so. You simply are not committed. Time to shit or get off the pot.

Don't get me wrong, I'm an Aussie fan and rooting for ya but you set yourself up for failure. There is nothing unhealthy about IF. In fact, it came to light in the 90's as a way to overcome poor health conditions, which the medical health industry could not, and was shown to do just that. It is not some dogmatic stupid shit. Eating 3, 4, or 5 or more meals a day is stupid dogmatic shit that a very large food industry wants you to think is a good thing. They want you to believe eating more is actually healthy even as they serve you the most unhealthy overly processed/non-nutritious foods. Then they make idiots believe calories are calories no matter what you eat and as you've seen in this thread, there's plenty of idiots who actually believe that.

You are severely overweight. Make no mistake about it. People can say they are big boned or have big frames, but take that excess 80 pounds or more away and you'll see it's not that. BMI chart outdated? Sure, but not too far off from where you should be. I'm gonna give you something else very simple to go by, your waist circumference. Not even the dolts here will argue people with large waists are known to be extremely unhealthy and way more prone to severe health risks. As a rule, men should have a waist at least less than 40 inches and yours is well over 50 IIRC. The truth hurts but that's a long way to go.

**** duh ebook and **** the excuses. Get motivated man and drop the weight. I guarantee you IF is the quickest and most healthy way.

 

[AussieBear]

Calling BS again, aussie pal... for many things. First, you said you were raised on the diet dranks so, certainly doesn't mean they weren't linked to any health issues you had even when you were very young. Second, There is no way in fuckin' hell you went up to 300 lbs doing 16-8 IF, or thinking you were doing 16-8 IF and especially 20 hours. Just not plausible so not only am I inclined to believe it's an outright lie but, at the very least your memory fails you miserably. Remember, anything other than water in that 16 hours would break the fast. And third, you keep going back and forth, saying at one point you're fully committed to doing whatever it takes to lose the weight and then, just as quickly, coming back and making excuses for not doing so. You simply are not committed. Time to shit or get off the pot.

Don't get me wrong, I'm an Aussie fan and rooting for ya but you set yourself up for failure. There is nothing unhealthy about IF. In fact, it came to light in the 90's as a way to overcome poor health conditions, which the medical health industry could not, and was shown to do just that. It is not some dogmatic stupid shit. Eating 3, 4, or 5 or more meals a day is stupid dogmatic shit that a very large food industry wants you to think is a good thing. They want you to believe eating more is actually healthy even as they serve you the most unhealthy overly processed/non-nutritious foods. Then they make idiots believe calories are calories no matter what you eat and as you've seen in this thread, there's plenty of idiots who actually believe that.

You are severely overweight. Make no mistake about it. People can say they are big boned or have big frames, but take that excess 80 pounds or more away and you'll see it's not that. BMI chart outdated? Sure, but not too far off from where you should be. I'm gonna give you something else very simple to go by, your waist circumference. Not even the dolts here will argue people with large waists are known to be extremely unhealthy and way more prone to severe health risks. As a rule, men should have a waist at least less than 40 inches and yours is well over 50 IIRC. The truth hurts but that's a long way to go.

**** duh ebook and **** the excuses. Get motivated man and drop the weight. I guarantee you IF is the quickest and most healthy way.

You sound almost cultish on duh IF mang... thats scary... Dude, many people eat many meals a day and are ripped. Others eat many times and drop weight. IF isnt the only way to ghod mang.. many IF peeps will eat many meals during their feed times.. so dats BS...

Terry crews will have other things other than pure water during IF time in da morning if he gets too hungry, so youre also on duh BS. I didnt set myself up for failure. I just stopped after succeeding to drop 40. It aint a rabbit race, that seems to be your view. maybe thats why youll put the weight back on this winter. im not getting back up to 300 during me winter.... as you had said, you have to lose it every year.

Do you even know why the bmi chart was created, who created it and the sample size used to create it?

Lets see your pics broham.. frame sizes do matter... mike tyson in his prime was considered obese according to duh bmi chart.....i got that pit bull frame too. according to duh bmi chart i need to be around 170ish to be considered normal... during me early boxing days i dropped to 168 and fucked me body.. had to lose soo much muscle and couldn't keep that weight.. i basically had to starve..... it wasn't natural.......hell me legs weigh over 100 pounds wiff natural bodybuilding 17.5 in calves and 27in thighs and duh fat there is minimal compared to duh rest.. but like i had said, im overweight.. i dont deny that, severely, naw.. you have a point about waist size dough, ive be did research on dat in duh past..

 

[Warrior Spirit]

You sound almost cultish on duh IF mang... thats scary... Dude, many people eat many meals a day and are ripped. Others eat many times and drop weight. IF isnt the only way to ghod mang.. many IF peeps will eat many meals during their feed times.. so dats BS...

Terry crews will have other things other than pure water during IF time in da morning, so youre also on duh BS. I didnt set myself up for failure. I just stopped after succeeding to drop 40. It aint a rabbit race, that seems to be your view. maybe thats why youll put the weight back on this winter. im not getting back up to 300 during me winter.... as you had said, you have to lose it every year.



Do you even know why the bmi chart was created, who created it and the sample size used to create it?

Lets see your pics broham.. frame sizes do matter... mike tyson in his prime was considered obese according to duh bmi chart.....i got that pit bull frame too. according to duh bmi chart i need to be around 170ish to be considered normal... during me early boxing days i dropped to 168 and fucked me body.. had to lose soo much muscle and couldn't keep that weight.. i basically had to starve..... it wasn't natural.......hell me legs weigh over 100 pounds wiff natural bodybuilding 17.5 in calves and 27in thighs and duh fat there is minimal compared to duh rest.. but like i had said, im overweight.. i dont deny that, severely, naw.. you have a point about waist size dough, ive be did research on dat in duh past..

Nah, cultish is the 5+ meals a day. Nothing could be dumber than that. How do you expect to lose any fat already stored on your body as you constantly stuff your face, spiking your insulin level constantly throughout the day? IF is the best way to go. It's the fastest and healthiest. It will not only help you lose weight fast but could very well help you with the other health problems as well as your sleep problems.

I don't pay much attention to BMI, no. Just looking at it now, I'm only a few pounds away from green so not nearly as bad as I thought but I know it's hundreds of years old and waist size and/or body fat % would be the far better barometer.

I don't think it's a good thing to post pics. Besides, I don't have that cool mask you do. Have always thought my legs kinda skinny, 15 inch calves, 22" thighs. That didn't change much at all doing the 18/6 IF. But did lose fat where it is usually hardest to lose, them love handles and man boobies. In fact, my wife first noticed the weight loss in my man boobies. I now know how Duane Johnson felt after he went to the doc to get the fat sucked out of his boobies.

As I said, I haven't done IF before. This was the first time and I was blown away by the quick results. I had gotten in the habit of putting on an addition 20 pounds after the summer in the past more or less because I allowed it and reasoned I could use that extra protection from the cold but I can easily keep it off now with IF so no more excuses for me either.

No BS here, bro, I'm totally anti-BS. Terry Crews is in phenomenal shape for his age and he says he owes it all to doing IF for the last 10 years so that should just inspire you. Yes, he does say he has other things in that 16 hour period of fasting but it's certainly not food or sugary drinks. It's amino acids and coconut oil, things that actually aid weight loss and are frequently suggested when you hear those experts talk about IF and ketosis. Think the only other thing he mentions is coffee which I'd assume would be unsweetened and is an iffy thing as far as IF goes cause black coffee has hardly any calories and caffeine is also good for weight loss. When I say nothing but water, it's a hard fast rule but some say it's ok during the 16 hour window while others say might as well wait for the 8 hour eating window as it would be a good way to start that. He's also doing the early morning workout and going til about 2 in the afternoon without eating so he's got not only the IF working in his favor but the intense workouts as well. But, go ahead and do what he does. I'm sure it will work wonders for ya.

 

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Except this diet drank person reached 300 pounds and has developed health issues. :lmao:

It’s almost as if this article was written specifically aboot you...

Artificial Sweeteners make you fat (And other Myths)...

People get their knickers in a bunch over artificial sweeteners.

Clean eating zealots see them akin to the Taliban or the KKK, and decry that artificial sweeteners should be banned worldwide, that no one should consume them, and that eating some Splenda is as hazardous to your health as spending your honeymoon in Chernobyl.



Evidence-based coaches and trainers wear their artificial sweetener consumption like a badge of honour, and are quick to shoot down anyone who has anything negative to say about them.

I’ll admit, I’m in the second camp.

I love the fact that eating artificial sweeteners makes my diet far easier to stick to, and hate the bogus science that gets thrown round by so-called experts who pull up crappy rodent studies – or worse, Joseph Mercola articles – to back up their misinformed views on the health detriments of artificial sweeteners.

WHERE THE FALSE SCIENCE STEMS FROM

I’ll be busting a load of myths in this piece.

It’s important to work out where these myths come from though.

First up, most myths stem from one of three places:

CONSPIRACY THEORISTS

I’ll point back to my friend/ charlatan Dr. Mercola here. Folks like this love to think there’s some conspiracy theory from the government and Monsanto that’s secretly trying to kill us, and believe that the food companies are in cahoots with health officials, and so the “truth” about artificial sweeteners never comes out, as it would cause big companies to lose too much money.

PEOPLE WHO CAN’T READ RESEARCH

There are studies that show artificial sweeteners to de detrimental.

These studies however, have been done in rodents (who have different metabolisms to humans) who have been given absolutely huge quantities of sweetener. This isn’t replicable to the effects on humans, and to get these kind of doses in your diet, you’d have to be drinking 50+ cans of diet coke per day.

If you’re doing this, then you do have a problem.

This is the problem with only reading the abstract of a study, and not looking at the details or methods. It becomes easy to interpret a negative outcome and assume that it’s the same in humans. It’s not.

For a very small subsect of the population, artificial sweeteners can actually be dangerous. Around 1 in 10,000 to 15,000 babies are born with phenylketonuria (PKU) where they lack the enzyme needed to break down phenylalanine. As phenylalanine is present in many artificially sweetened, products, these should be avoided. However, meat, fish, dairy and eggs also have high levels, and no one extrapolates these to say that everyone in the world should steer clear of them.

NUTRITIONAL PREACHERS

Some guys and girls just love to proclaim they only eat natural foods, and argue that artificial sweeteners don’t have any place in their diet because they’re full of chemicals.

If avoiding artificial sweeteners makes you feel self-righteous, that’s great – you carry on with your quest. Just don’t use false science to try and get others to needlessly do the same.

CONTINUED...

 

[Warrior Spirit]

It’s almost as if this article was written specifically aboot you...

Artificial Sweeteners make you fat (And other Myths)...

People get their knickers in a bunch over artificial sweeteners.

Clean eating zealots see them akin to the Taliban or the KKK, and decry that artificial sweeteners should be banned worldwide, that no one should consume them, and that eating some Splenda is as hazardous to your health as spending your honeymoon in Chernobyl.



Evidence-based coaches and trainers wear their artificial sweetener consumption like a badge of honour, and are quick to shoot down anyone who has anything negative to say about them.

I’ll admit, I’m in the second camp.

I love the fact that eating artificial sweeteners makes my diet far easier to stick to, and hate the bogus science that gets thrown round by so-called experts who pull up crappy rodent studies – or worse, Joseph Mercola articles – to back up their misinformed views on the health detriments of artificial sweeteners.

WHERE THE FALSE SCIENCE STEMS FROM

I’ll be busting a load of myths in this piece.

It’s important to work out where these myths come from though.

First up, most myths stem from one of three places:

CONSPIRACY THEORISTS

I’ll point back to my friend/ charlatan Dr. Mercola here. Folks like this love to think there’s some conspiracy theory from the government and Monsanto that’s secretly trying to kill us, and believe that the food companies are in cahoots with health officials, and so the “truth” about artificial sweeteners never comes out, as it would cause big companies to lose too much money.

PEOPLE WHO CAN’T READ RESEARCH

There are studies that show artificial sweeteners to de detrimental.

These studies however, have been done in rodents (who have different metabolisms to humans) who have been given absolutely huge quantities of sweetener. This isn’t replicable to the effects on humans, and to get these kind of doses in your diet, you’d have to be drinking 50+ cans of diet coke per day.

If you’re doing this, then you do have a problem.

This is the problem with only reading the abstract of a study, and not looking at the details or methods. It becomes easy to interpret a negative outcome and assume that it’s the same in humans. It’s not.

For a very small subsect of the population, artificial sweeteners can actually be dangerous. Around 1 in 10,000 to 15,000 babies are born with phenylketonuria (PKU) where they lack the enzyme needed to break down phenylalanine. As phenylalanine is present in many artificially sweetened, products, these should be avoided. However, meat, fish, dairy and eggs also have high levels, and no one extrapolates these to say that everyone in the world should steer clear of them.

NUTRITIONAL PREACHERS

Some guys and girls just love to proclaim they only eat natural foods, and argue that artificial sweeteners don’t have any place in their diet because they’re full of chemicals.

If avoiding artificial sweeteners makes you feel self-righteous, that’s great – you carry on with your quest. Just don’t use false science to try and get others to needlessly do the same.

CONTINUED...

It's almost as if a fool thinks if he finds 1 editorial supporting his idiotic stance in favor of some crap created in the lab, he can ignore tons of studies that say the opposite. If you take the time to open your eyes, you'll see all those claims made with scientific studies are true to life. It is such a frequent occurrence that you see fat people drinking diet sodas, it's become a ongoing joke. But you stick to your love for bodybuilders and support the crazy shit they do even though many end up as lame fucks after their non-rewarding life in bodybuilding. 7 out of 10 people are overweight because of thinking like yours. I see a fat man in your future.

 

[AussieBear]

Nah, cultish is the 5+ meals a day. Nothing could be dumber than that. How do you expect to lose any fat already stored on your body as you constantly stuff your face, spiking your insulin level constantly throughout the day? IF is the best way to go. It's the fastest and healthiest. It will not only help you lose weight fast but could very well help you with the other health problems as well as your sleep problems.

I don't pay much attention to BMI, no. Just looking at it now, I'm only a few pounds away from green so not nearly as bad as I thought but I know it's hundreds of years old and waist size and/or body fat % would be the far better barometer.

I don't think it's a good thing to post pics. Besides, I don't have that cool mask you do. Have always thought my legs kinda skinny, 15 inch calves, 22" thighs. That didn't change much at all doing the 18/6 IF. But did lose fat where it is usually hardest to lose, them love handles and man boobies. In fact, my wife first noticed the weight loss in my man boobies. I now know how Duane Johnson felt after he went to the doc to get the fat sucked out of his boobies.

As I said, I haven't done IF before. This was the first time and I was blown away by the quick results. I had gotten in the habit of putting on an addition 20 pounds after the summer in the past more or less because I allowed it and reasoned I could use that extra protection from the cold but I can easily keep it off now with IF so no more excuses for me either.

No BS here, bro, I'm totally anti-BS. Terry Crews is in phenomenal shape for his age and he says he owes it all to doing IF for the last 10 years so that should just inspire you. Yes, he does say he has other things in that 16 hour period of fasting but it's certainly not food or sugary drinks. It's amino acids and coconut oil, things that actually aid weight loss and are frequently suggested when you hear those experts talk about IF and ketosis. Think the only other thing he mentions is coffee which I'd assume would be unsweetened and is an iffy thing as far as IF goes cause black coffee has hardly any calories and caffeine is also good for weight loss. When I say nothing but water, it's a hard fast rule but some say it's ok during the 16 hour window while others say might as well wait for the 8 hour eating window as it would be a good way to start that. He's also doing the early morning workout and going til about 2 in the afternoon without eating so he's got not only the IF working in his favor but the intense workouts as well. But, go ahead and do what he does. I'm sure it will work wonders for ya.

see a meal can be half an orange and 5-6 almonds.. thats a meal.. i wouldnt consider that stuffin yo face

IF poster childs, terry crews, the rock, and hugh jackman are all obese going by the bmi charts though.. btw hugh jackman and the rock were both eating 5-6 meals in they 8 hours iirc.. so is they double culitish.

i dont have man boobs at 260.. most of the fat on me chest is on the outer chest..

thats an easy bs mask.. white oval in some paint software..

im glad IF works for ya.. thats my motto.. do what works for you.....when im on me routine, mine works for me, always has... well the one thing im not doing is lifting weights.. so that part is different.. im about the same weight i was when i started cooking last year, but im in better shape at 260 this year.. the last two days in the kitchen were way easier on me body than last year at this time. im still maintaining strength n me weight, but ill probably start pushing cardio even if its still cold.. this winter doesnt seem as cold overall, but me body still disagrees

 

[Adipost]

It's almost as if a fool thinks if he finds 1 editorial supporting his idiotic stance in favor of some crap created in the lab, he can ignore tons of studies that say the opposite. If you take the time to open your eyes, you'll see all those claims made with scientific studies are true to life. It is such a frequent occurrence that you see fat people drinking diet sodas, it's become a ongoing joke. But you stick to your love for bodybuilders and support the crazy shit they do even though many end up as lame fucks after their non-rewarding life in bodybuilding. 7 out of 10 people are overweight because of thinking like yours. I see a fat man in your future.

Maybe 25 years from now, artificial sweeteners end up wiping out half the population. But at this current time, the actual science is on my side. You choose to believe an outlier study over the preponderance of scientific data and have diluted yourself into thinking it is fact. Much as a conspiracy theorist latches on to one bit of unsubstantiated factor to try to prove their theory correct.

Not too long ago, people such as yourself got duped into thinking artificial sweeteners caused cancer with again no actual scientific backing. Instead of actually looking at the science, people chose to blindly believe some wacko truther on the matter.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Maybe 25 years from now, artificial sweeteners end up wiping out half the population. But at this current time, the actual science is on my side. You choose to believe an outlier study over the preponderance of scientific data and have diluted yourself into thinking it is fact. Much as a conspiracy theorist latches on to one bit of unsubstantiated factor to try to prove their theory correct.

Not too long ago, people such as yourself got duped into thinking artificial sweeteners caused cancer with again no actual scientific backing. Instead of actually looking at the science, people chose to blindly believe some wacko truther on the matter.

Nobody got duped by any studies about artificial sweeteners. It’s just funny as **** that there’s still people who think these sweeteners, discovered by accident while mixing chemicals in a lab, can actually do anything but harm people. These sweeteners also break down in temps exceeding 86 degrees so when you put them into your body they break off into toxic chemicals certainly not meant for human consumption. But you keep supporting your own pseudo science that’s based on the opinions of meatheads.

All this toxic shit people so willingly put in their bodies affects the brain and makes them stupid so it’s very difficult to reason with someone who is so hellbent on defending toxins vs what nature has always provided for human consumption.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

see a meal can be half an orange and 5-6 almonds.. thats a meal.. i wouldnt consider that stuffin yo face

IF poster childs, terry crews, the rock, and hugh jackman are all obese going by the bmi charts though.. btw hugh jackman and the rock were both eating 5-6 meals in they 8 hours iirc.. so is they double culitish.

i dont have man boobs at 260.. most of the fat on me chest is on the outer chest..

thats an easy bs mask.. white oval in some paint software..

im glad IF works for ya.. thats my motto.. do what works for you.....when im on me routine, mine works for me, always has... well the one thing im not doing is lifting weights.. so that part is different.. im about the same weight i was when i started cooking last year, but im in better shape at 260 this year.. the last two days in the kitchen were way easier on me body than last year at this time. im still maintaining strength n me weight, but ill probably start pushing cardio even if its still cold.. this winter doesnt seem as cold overall

What you have to do is stop comparing yourself to The Rock and Terry Crews because they work at heavy lifting daily to get all those muscles that you do not have. And, we are doing the waist size now, remember? Do either of them look like they have a waist over 40”?

You keep saying you’ll lose weight your way as if you’re on to something great that works for you but it’s the same old same old people fail with more often than not.

I did mention before I noted the meal plan you would list in the beginning of the thread. Yes even though you eat 5 or 6 meals a day, mostly all but 1 are little more than small snacks. The caloric deficit is there but your body is never given a chance to revert to burning fat on its own because every single time you eat, no matter how little it is, you spike the insulin level and give the body more sugar to burn. Thats why people get discouraged on these type diets as the weight loss comes slow and the plateau comes fast.

But you do as you wish, just do something and stay away from those poisonous artificial sweeteners.

 

[AussieBear]

What you have to do is stop comparing yourself to The Rock and Terry Crews because they work at heavy lifting daily to get all those muscles that you do not have. And, we are doing the waist size now, remember? Do either of them look like they have a waist over 40”?

You keep saying you’ll lose weight your way as if you’re on to something great that works for you but it’s the same old same old people fail with more often than not.

I did mention before I noted the meal plan you would list in the beginning of the thread. Yes even though you eat 5 or 6 meals a day, mostly all but 1 are little more than small snacks. The caloric deficit is there but your body is never given a chance to revert to burning fat on its own because every single time you eat, no matter how little it is, you spike the insulin level and give the body more sugar to burn. Thats why people get discouraged on these type diets as the weight loss comes slow and the plateau comes fast.

But you do as you wish, just do something and stay away from those poisonous artificial sweeteners.

youre sounding like the fat IF fat guy expert now.. keep the weight off for a couple of years then ill listen.. or lets see before and after ripped pics.. if IF is the ghod way, you should be ripped in no time... but see... at the same time.. im not an anti IF guy, i just believe in what i believe in fer me.. i prefer eating and heavy exercise.. being an athlete most of me earlier life.. that way is second nature to me... n sum of us dinos be creatures of habit.. n one of those habits is how i got me whale on..

i never said i was the rock or crews.. i dont compare myself to them..they is just IF and one of those two eat many meals during they feed times. im me.. thats why im cool with 215-220 ultimately.. i dont need to be 185 n ripped or 245 n jacked.. just want me leanness back and a lil definition...... i got some muscles still..you can see em.. its under dat fat..... its not bad considering i havent lifted weights fer 8+ years.. mang if i took a few cycles n pumped me some iron.. i could get jacked fairly easy.. but im a natural guy,.....

if i couldn't burn fat, how did i drop 40 pounds??? did i drop 40 pounds of muscle?

now its waist size only..... i lost waist size during the 40 pound drop.. me skin has caught up and aint loose.... when phase two starts ill drop another 30-40 pounds and lose mo inches.. n ill keep most of me muscles i do gotz.. n look mo and mo like a leaned out boxer.. getting jacked lifting may be a future goal though.. well jacked may not be the correct term.. but ill get me sum lil gains .. get me 17in arms up to 17.5-18.5.. thats either phase 3 or 4.. probably 4.. id do one more cutting phase afta 2 at least n be around 200-205 then bulk back up to 215-220

when is losing 40 pounds a failure..... sure i had mo to lose, but i lost mo weight than you right... winner , winner.. i need another kfc bucket dinner.. i gotta go get that family meal deal, a side of wicked wings n sumin for me fam....

i never said artificial sweeteners are good, nor bad... thats yous and adis thang.. im indifferent.. howev, i dont think many things are good for people.. but i eat/drink/vape them anyway

 

[Mitchapalooza]

Keep it simple aussie. Caloric deficit and eat as healthy as you can. You'll be alright.