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There's real science and clinical trials to back up the benefits of intermittent fasting and now, for me, I see the amazing results first hand.

The idea that you could eat junk or nutritional food and have there be no difference because it's just based on calories is simple minded and something you may think works for you but you've already stated you do intermittent fasting by default and maybe that's what saves you from gaining weight from eating junk and/or maybe you really don't eat junk that often for it to be a factor. You could also be a young guy so if you sleep 8 hours and then go another 4 or 5 hours before eating because you skip breakfast that would be 12 or 13 hours of intermittent fast. Because you're younger you could get the same benefit from going 12 or 13 hours that I get from going 18 hours. If it's nutritional your body will put most of it to good use. If it's not, you'll see a bigger portion of it wasted and stored as fat. There will be a difference between the 2, if not seen on the scale, you'll see it in the size of your stomach. Same premise as why some types of food are known to be far more likely to cause bloat.

I agree 100% that eating healthier is better for you and will help with weight loss. But you can't be ignoring calories if you have a weight goal. Genetics also plays a role in your physique, muscle build, etc. It's actually kind of cool to look at different ethnic backgrounds and notice the body type differences. West Africans have the best physical genes I've ever seen.
 

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I agree 100% that eating healthier is better for you and will help with weight loss. But you can't be ignoring calories if you have a weight goal. Genetics also plays a role in your physique, muscle build, etc. It's actually kind of cool to look at different ethnic backgrounds and notice the body type differences. West Africans have the best physical genes I've ever seen.

Except as I just explained, I lost 30 pounds in a month with IF ignoring and not even being cognizant of how many calories I consumed. I simply ate til I was full. My wife also currently on a different diet (Intermittent Fasting too hardcore for her) that uses points as opposed to calories, recognizing the difference between empty and nutritious calories and foods that will benefit the metabolism rather than slow it down.
 

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Except as I just explained, I lost 30 pounds in a month with IF ignoring and not even being cognizant of how many calories I consumed. I simply ate til I was full. My wife also currently on a different diet (Intermittent Fasting too hardcore for her) that uses points as opposed to calories, recognizing the difference between empty and nutritious calories and foods that will benefit the metabolism rather than slow it down.

Well if you didn't count the calories maybe you ate the amount needed to lose weight. 30 lbs in a month? how much did you weigh? unless you were very overweight that seems extremely unhealthy. that's a pound a day. but if it worked, more power to ya.
 

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Well if you didn't count the calories maybe you ate the amount needed to lose weight. 30 lbs in a month? how much did you weigh? unless you were very overweight that seems extremely unhealthy. that's a pound a day. but if it worked, more power to ya.
I was at 230 and wanted to get back down to 200. I wasn't expecting to achieve it so quickly at first but once I started, I knew it was going to be easier than I thought. I felt great throughout. From the very beginning and all the way throughout I had more energy, not less. I felt different but it was a good different. Before doing it, I would get tired a lot right after eating. Since doing it, that doesn't happen.
 

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I was at 230 and wanted to get back down to 200. I wasn't expecting to achieve it so quickly at first but once I started, I knew it was going to be easier than I thought. I felt great throughout. From the very beginning and all the way throughout I had more energy, not less. I felt different but it was a good different. Before doing it, I would get tired a lot right after eating. Since doing it, that doesn't happen.

nice, you still on it or are you maintaining your weight now?
 

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nice, you still on it or are you maintaining your weight now?
Pretty much still on it just cause I'm used to the schedule so I don't get hungry at those times I was fasting and with a smaller stomach, it doesn't take as much to fill it. Gonna wane it down to 16 and then 14 and eventually 12 just to maintain.
 

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Alright, buddy, this is where I have to call bullshit on just about everything in that post of yours but it's for your own damn good.

First, about losing your mentals. You seemed to lose motivation in your weight loss before that ebook thing if you look back at your previous posts. And as I recall, you've been mostly non-productive for over a decade so why now with all the emo stuff? And now you point to applying for a shit job watching after the old and feeble and say the pay is ok at possibly $45 per hour? OK pay? Please, I know of nobody who has made near that amount doing that type stuff. With the slightest bit of OT you'd be talking 100K a year. IDK, maybe Australia is the real land of opportunity but sounds a ton excessive for that type work. I know it's the thing to do to greatly exaggerate one's earnings or even potential earnings on MBs but let's keep it more real, can we?

Now, let's get back to the weight loss thing. You say you know what you're doing and have had success but you don't and you haven't. You were stalling and losing motivation throughout and seeing as you wanted to go from 300 lbs to 200 lbs, losing 30 or so pounds in 5 months is nothing. Being 100 pounds overweight, that first 30 or 40 pounds should melt off quick as you please with the slightest bit of effort. Now looks like you've been gaining weight again so it was nothing you could sustain anyway. You say you you were eating 6-9 meals a day but not only is that very stupid but from your previous posts it seems quite inaccurate as well. In the posts in which you alluded to what you were eating, it was 5-6 meals a day and much more like 1 meal and 4-5 light snacks. You definitely had a calorie deficit going on but never giving your body a break or need to call on all that excess of fat reserve you have.

Back to intermittent fasting and, again, I only push it cause I have just had great success with it. There is more to the concept of IF than just losing weight. When you sleep, your body takes this opportunity of you not stuffing your face and uses it to regenerate and do great things such as produce HGH. As soon as you wake and stuff your face first thing, it stops doing this but if you held off eating for many more hours, it would use that extra time to continue what it was doing while you were sleeping. Obviously it's highly beneficial for us older peeps to afford our bodies more time to produce HGH, which encourages muscle growth and the burning off of fat. I really think you should give IF a try and I'll tell you why.

Look at the lame excuses you've been making during your endeavor to drop 100 pounds of lard. For one thing, I have no doubt your frame is a tight fit through a doorway while lugging around that excess weight. And, as already mentioned, while your workouts seemed rigorous enough, you struggled to stay motivated as most people would especially with the little amount of sleep and aches and pains you say you have. As for as using your age as an excuse, you can shut up about that cause I just told you how I lost 30 pounds in 4-5 weeks (now 35 lbs) and it was easier than I could have possibly imagined and I'm older than you. You also complained about the cold being a deterrent. I hate the cold more than anyone and can tell you it will never get in the way of getting fast results from intermittent fasting. In fact, cold therapy is another method people have used successfully to lose weight. By taking an ice cold shower 5 minutes a day, people have lost 5-6 pounds per week.... but I digress. Let's stay with Intermittent Fasting which, in itself, makes every excuse you've made a non-factor. You won't need those excuses anymore. With intermittent fasting, you need do nothing but stop feeding your face every few hours. And you'll see it has other benefits too. Maybe reduce some of those aches and pains and/or help you sleep better.

Don't really know how overweight you are but just going on the fact you initially wanted to lose 100 pounds and write an ebook about how you lost 100 pounds in 1 year. I think you can forget about that too cause there have been plenty who have lost 100 pounds much quicker than that and already wrote the books. Also, I know, speaking for myself, while I consider about 200 lbs to be optimal for me, if I was to look up what my weight should be at 6' even, it would probably say around 170 lbs which I know would be ridiculously low for me and leave me looking like no more than just skin and bones. Right now, I'm at 195 or was right after I ate 4 fried eggs last night at 11PM. I haven't eaten since but if I was remotely hungry I would eat right now cause I don't want to go any lower. I'll just have a bigger dinner though cause I don't feel like eating now. As I've said I've dropped weight before and get to this weight virtually every year but this time, with intermittent fasting, it feels so very different. In the past when I've gone as low as 195, I'd look gaunt and many people would even comment saying that. This time, I don't look gaunt at all and feel so much stronger. The only place it looks like I've lost weight is in the stomach area. I'm not a health nut either and I don't eat the best stuff and never count calories but what I did do was eat more of the food, I think is good, instead of the food I know is just empty calories. Depending on who you listen to, they might say some of the food you think is good is actually bad but I don't listen to that either. If it's crap food and just empty calories, we all know it so no need to overthink it past that. My main staples during the weight loss were chicken breasts, steak, eggs, sweet potatoes, rice, spinach, broccoli and still had me some peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.


Apparently you forget im is in Aus and pay is different here. night pay, weekend rates are a thing. i think minimum wage even went up to 22 something recently for adults. > 21 get paid different wages --- Jr rates. yes 45 AUD (33 USD) an hr overnight at this company is a real thing.

"Full-time earnings in Australia averaged A$78,832 a year in the second quarter of 2016. (Seasonally adjusted wages – Bureau of Statistics.)
If overtime and bonuses are included, average Australian earnings were A$81,947 per annum.
The average full-time male salary (excluding overtime) in Australia is A$83,902 per annum."

Ive been dealing with mentals, but the book took it ova the edge. i repressed the death of my parents and never dealt with it and dropping the book and having some worthless family members scoff at the idea of trying to be an author/illustrator and others not even support it brought the shit up.. idk y..

been dealing with insomnia, fiybro for a long time... so yes it muscles and it affects mood as well..

i dont care if other ppl have written books.. its about my journey.. thats how personal stories work... do you think i think i is special, i is the first person to do this, thAt i is going to make 1000s from it... yous dont gets I.. personal goal was around 215/200 but commercial goal was saying f it and losing another 15/20 pound to say 100..

35 pounds?.. you probably lost 15-20 pounds of muscle. especially if you werent getting your cals/protein with all the whole foods..... if you didnt get a scan, you dont know what you lost..... so you lost faster, big deal, its not a race. i never had to deal with being hungry.. my problem was being full.. i know i haven't ruined my metabolism in the process either.

you got before and after pics?.. lets seem em...

you keeping gaining the weight back every year?... probably because you lose muscle mass and end up killing your metabolism..

but thats cool IF works for you... many ways to lose weight.. thats why they is millions of books on it........... i like losing through EATING all the time and working out....
 

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Apparently you forget im is in Aus and pay is different here. night pay, weekend rates are a thing. i think minimum wage even went up to 22 something recently for adults. > 21 get paid different wages --- Jr rates. yes 45 AUD (33 USD) an hr overnight at this company is a real thing.

"Full-time earnings in Australia averaged A$78,832 a year in the second quarter of 2016. (Seasonally adjusted wages – Bureau of Statistics.)
If overtime and bonuses are included, average Australian earnings were A$81,947 per annum.
The average full-time male salary (excluding overtime) in Australia is A$83,902 per annum."

Ive been dealing with mentals, but the book took it ova the edge. i repressed the death of my parents and never dealt with it and dropping the book and having some worthless family members scoff at the idea of trying to be an author/illustrator and others not even support it brought the shit up.. idk y..

been dealing with insomnia, fiybro for a long time... so yes it muscles and it affects mood as well..

i dont care if other ppl have written books.. its about my journey.. thats how personal stories work... do you think i think i is special, i is the first person to do this, thAt i is going to make 1000s from it... yous dont gets I.. personal goal was around 215/200 but commercial goal was saying f it and losing another 15/20 pound to say 100..

35 pounds?.. you probably lost 15-20 pounds of muscle. especially if you werent getting your cals/protein with all the whole foods..... if you didnt get a scan, you dont know what you lost..... so you lost faster, big deal, its not a race. i never had to deal with being hungry.. my problem was being full.. i know i haven't ruined my metabolism in the process either.

you got before and after pics?.. lets seem em...

you keeping gaining the weight back every year?... probably because you lose muscle mass and end up killing your metabolism..

but thats cool IF works for you... many ways to lose weight.. thats why they is millions of books on it........... i like losing through EATING all the time and working out....
Damn, didn't know Aussies made that much. Ommy said you were all a bunch of fat bums. :lol: Is that median wage in line with the cost of living or is that a lot higher than I would think too? And, to be perfectly honest with you, when you started mentioning about it being so cold there I was a bit surprised cause I didn't think it got very cold there at any point. Ok, that shit's on me. Obviously I don't know much about Australia. And the mentals seem to run deeper than I assumed so I'll leave that alone too.

As far as the intermittent fasting, no pics (not a selfie kinda guy) but reread what I typed about it cause I lost no muscle, only stomach fat, and that's what I expected from the quick research I had done on it ahead of time. That's the amazing benefit I've been talking about. You're giving your body more time after your sleep to feed off fat and build up your HGH levels. Yes, there are many ways to lose weight and I've tried many in the past and got the job done but, as I've already stated, it never felt this good and usually left me feeling weaker. I feel stronger now than I did a little over a month ago when I was 35 pounds heavier. Haven't measured body fat but just going by the feel of it, I'd say it's better than it has ever been in my adult life. Body just feels much tighter. So while there may be other ways, none I've ever known have been better than this. As I've also said many times already, this IF isn't just about weight loss. It's going to enhance your immune system, reduce some of that inflammation causing pain in certain areas, increase your energy level and produce a hell of a lot more hgh than it normally would in the over 40 crowd. These are tremendous benefits you can't get from doing what you're doing. And, if you want to work out, that's fine as you'll even speed the process more but if there's a lot of days you don't feel like working out, that's ok too cause it's not going to cause any setback. You will continue to reap the benefits of intermittent fasting regardless.
 

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Damn, didn't know Aussies made that much. Ommy said you were all a bunch of fat bums. :lol: Is that median wage in line with the cost of living or is that a lot higher than I would think too? And, to be perfectly honest with you, when you started mentioning about it being so cold there I was a bit surprised cause I didn't think it got very cold there at any point. Ok, that shit's on me. Obviously I don't know much about Australia. And the mentals seem to run deeper than I assumed so I'll leave that alone too.

As far as the intermittent fasting, no pics (not a selfie kinda guy) but reread what I typed about it cause I lost no muscle, only stomach fat, and that's what I expected from the quick research I had done on it ahead of time. That's the amazing benefit I've been talking about. You're giving your body more time after your sleep to feed off fat and build up your HGH levels. Yes, there are many ways to lose weight and I've tried many in the past and got the job done but, as I've already stated, it never felt this good and usually left me feeling weaker. I feel stronger now than I did a little over a month ago when I was 35 pounds heavier. Haven't measured body fat but just going by the feel of it, I'd say it's better than it has ever been in my adult life. Body just feels much tighter. So while there may be other ways, none I've ever known have been better than this. As I've also said many times already, this IF isn't just about weight loss. It's going to enhance your immune system, reduce some of that inflammation causing pain in certain areas, increase your energy level and produce a hell of a lot more hgh than it normally would in the over 40 crowd. These are tremendous benefits you can't get from doing what you're doing. And, if you want to work out, that's fine as you'll even speed the process more but if there's a lot of days you don't feel like working out, that's ok too cause it's not going to cause any setback. You will continue to reap the benefits of intermittent fasting regardless.

COL is fucked here, cause pay is high. Its a little easier if you live in regional areas in terms of housing, but COL is still pretty high.... especially in and around sydney.. Aussie pay and workers right is next level shit... the globalists are slowly tearing away at it though..... shit, a fulltime adult at mcdonalds is getting 20+ an hr, superannuation, paid leave etc etc.... its why they rather hire causuals or kids to work a mickey ds though.. kids can work at 14 yrs old in this country... i think they get paid 14-16 hr.. something like that. then @ 16-17 and 18-21 they get a lil more before finally landing on adult wages..

Im in the mountains and its winter time here and my body just isnt reacting to the cold like it use to when i was younger. its not extremely cold, but cold enough on me body. Weve had a couple of snow days but its melted and gone by noon. Some mornings i would run my hands under hot water just to warm up the bones in my hands before punching. It took a lot of punches to warm them up cold and dat shit was hurting.. conor was fucking with mayweather asking him do they hurt more in the cold.. cause that shit is real.

ive rekted my body in the past dropping weight unhealthy and healthy... so i stick to what i know is healthy and easy for me... i dont like feeling hungry, it leads me to overeating and making bad food choices at times..so IF wouldnt be a guud thing for me.. technically i do fast while i sleep right....... i was building strength, muscle endurance and raising me cardio lvls.. during this lull ive kept most of me numerical strength gains, but i know me cardio has taken a step back.. i dont do max set pushups any more.. but ive just been maintaining some strength doing 4 sets of 25 to hit 100 a day.. 4 x 25 sit ups, 4 x 25 body weight squats.. a lil shadow boxing, some dips and bike.. nothing intense.. im 100% over the flu, so i should probably starting pushing some.. maybe workout later in the day to get a few degrees warmer if the sun is out..

yeah i need to start me real phase two at some point... maybe i should go get a big bucket from kfc first.. may two and some wicked wings.... take new updated lull photos then start duh action. book wise, i can omit the lull months from the total and just use the actual real months of training for that technical year.. while sharing me experience of falling off... being a real person with bs..
 

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That's a good enough schedule, I think. It would be almost exactly what is the norm for me. The times I pack on the pounds are when I start making sandwiches between those time or just graze on more food throughout the day cause it's readily available and calling my name.

There's so much stupid shit put out there though and people are all too happy to listen to what they hear the most, especially if it involves eating more. I don't believe in counting calories either. If you're eating nutritious stuff, be it carbs or protein, you're not going to gain weight as you would if you eat crap that has no nutritional value. Other than that, sugar and salt, to a lesser extent, are the main villains. Even worse than regular sugar are those artificial sweeteners. Ever wonder why 9 out of 10 people you regularly see drink diet sodas are fat fucks? For coffee, tea or oatmeal I use raw honey, no doubt the best substitute for sugar. As salt goes, sea salt is better than regular table salt but pink Himalayan salt trumps all.

I don’t get your logic here. Artificial sweeteners don’t make you fat. The fat fucks drinking the diet sodas are fat because they are eating too many calories, not because they are drinking diet drinks. They would be even fatter if they actually drank more sugar as opposed to the no calorie drinks. Many top bodybuilders use artificial sweeteners in their diets as they are cutting down to under 5% body fat in the lead up to a show.

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Well if you didn't count the calories maybe you ate the amount needed to lose weight. 30 lbs in a month? how much did you weigh? unless you were very overweight that seems extremely unhealthy. that's a pound a day. but if it worked, more power to ya.

I did two fasts this year

First one for 3 weeks I lost 25 pounds

Second one for 2 weeks lost 13 pounds

I’m currently at 213 and can see my abs again lol. I will probably do another fast in September for three weeks then go on a bulk. And after that in January top it off with another fast

If you do the fasting right it’s so easy there are plenty of ways to suppress appetite like chicken bouillon to caffeine pills
 

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I did two fasts this year

First one for 3 weeks I lost 25 pounds

Second one for 2 weeks lost 13 pounds

I’m currently at 213 and can see my abs again lol. I will probably do another fast in September for three weeks then go on a bulk. And after that in January top it off with another fast

If you do the fasting right it’s so easy there are plenty of ways to suppress appetite like chicken bouillon to caffeine pills

So in your 3 week fast, what was your fasting schedule?
 

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I don’t get your logic here. Artificial sweeteners don’t make you fat. The fat fucks drinking the diet sodas are fat because they are eating too many calories, not because they are drinking diet drinks. They would be even fatter if they actually drank more sugar as opposed to the no calorie drinks. Many top bodybuilders use artificial sweeteners in their diets as they are cutting down to under 5% body fat in the lead up to a show.

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Artificial sweeteners do lead to fat gain over time and carry other health risks as well, most commonly the risk of diabetes. And, of course, the effect on weight gain would be seen throughout the average population and not a minuscule sample size of bodybuilders who are on high protein and complex carb diets while working out like animals daily. Artificial sweeteners are in fact, toxic, highly addictive, slow the metabolism down, increase hunger, cause the body to store more body fat, and are no doubt a leading cause of obesity within the general population.
 

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So in your 3 week fast, what was your fasting schedule?

Pretty much

https://www.psmfdiet.com/psmf-guide/

I spent less then 200 on supplements and healthy snacks

Casein protein
Vitamin stack plus caffeine pills
Chicken bouillon and ostrich sticks

Stuff like that

Now in that link there is a calculator for calculated calorie intake for me it was 930 calories a day(it factors carbs also)

You can eat those calories when you please just stick to what’s suggested and it works big time. My brother gained lots of weight during medical school and did it for two weeks and he is down to 170 pounds(he isn’t built I am so I will never get under 200)
 

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Artificial sweeteners do lead to fat gain over time and carry other health risks as well, most commonly the risk of diabetes. And, of course, the effect on weight gain would be seen throughout the average population and not a minuscule sample size of bodybuilders who are on high protein and complex carb diets while working out like animals daily. Artificial sweeteners are in fact, toxic, highly addictive, slow the metabolism down, increase hunger, cause the body to store more body fat, and are no doubt a leading cause of obesity within the general population.

They only indirectly lead to weight gain because the chemicals make you feel more hungry. Probably 90% of the population that uses them falls into the trap and ends up eating more. However, there are people that can use them properly while not gaining weight.

There is no scientific study that demonstrates that a diet coke with grilled chicken and steamed vegetables causes weight gain while a water with that same amount of grilled chicken and steamed vegetables causes weight loss.
 

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I feel like I've read/heard that artificial sweeteners actually do make you gain weight, but I might be making that up.
 

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