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Now is not the time to slide, after a mini-slide Aussie. You got this. Discipline and schedule. You are searching rapidly for meaning...stay the course. Let the plan ferment.

Get back on the wagon one day at a time, where it is conquered. Love the journey. The battle. We are warriors and become grizzled by it, scarred and unfazed. We come to be war itself.

ive been working out.. not like my first go around. i haven't gotten super serious yet.. just going through almost a maintenance routine for my upper body while i build up my legs.. during the past two weeks, i managed to shed about 4 pounds of the extra water i had gained..i also lowered me sodium intake levels, so that helped release some of the water i was holding..

i took the weekend off here, but ended last week on a good note.... i started to intensify back to normal levels i had built during the first go round .. last three workouts on the bag n treadmill were okay.. not great, but better than i had been doing.. its like my shoulders finally woke back up.... it was about 10 degrees warmer on each of these days... so the weather may be affect me aging arse and the added heat just made it easier to push some.. idk..

during this drawn out time ive mainly been focusing on my legs.. riding me bike more outside and using the exercise bike more inside. my legs are definitely getting stronger... now i need to bring it all together (upper and lower body) and start pushing meself again. today was actually supposed to be the day i pushed me out of shape, overweight self to 100% of me newsystem....
 

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Been losing weight after my plateau. Been recording all my calories. Some days I'm not hungry so like 500 calories get left over so I use those on days I'm really hungry. As long as I'm under my cals for the week it's all gravy.
 

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Been losing weight after my plateau. Been recording all my calories. Some days I'm not hungry so like 500 calories get left over so I use those on days I'm really hungry. As long as I'm under my cals for the week it's all gravy.

thats good stuff.. keep it up..

me,''[][ somethings in the way
 

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something is in the way.. and i cant identify what it be.

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something seems to have happened to me emotionally during my book release... something that has thrown me off da tracks.. up to that point i was focused and motivated. new(LY)found energy..rediscovering and awakening parts of myself again lead me to digging up old works out of the blue in da first place.....

i know its affecting my being, i just dont know what it is.. if i cant identify said issue/s, i cant deal with dis be said obstacle.

its not a bootstrap, grow a pair moment...motivational talk etc aint working... i keep trying those.. but i see the hollowness in my daily attempts..
im not scared of success, nor failure, so its not that simple....

whenever i start getting creative for myself, i seem to self sabotage.. i mean even my last job cooking.. had full creative freedom.. a blessing to do whatever....never missed a day.. always early.. manned up and took managements bs x amount of times but then reverted to saying **** that..; at least i aint be swing at someone this time...

started learning to make video games.. made progress fo show and i distract myself with other things to not follow through with it.. working out.. creativly sculpting me shit... maybe if i get rid of the ebook aspirations it wont feel creative...

i dont even be think its self doubt.. because i do be have a **** what ya think mentality.. especially if i know i tried me best... it is what it be is.. much like my book.. i sold some copies.. i had a plan in place.. get to 4-5 books.. get an agent.. i released one.. rewrote 2 and reworked an old character that was meant for a chapter book and not me picture books.. then i stopped.. distracted meself with other shat.. so it wasnt about sales..

idk what it is.. maybe certain ppl who i expected to support me didnt and that be causing issues.. like i be said dough.. cooking, games.. i stopped.. so it solely cant be that simple be either.. unless its another issues too.. maybe i never got over me parents deaths.. even though i feel as ive moved on..

idk.. trying to self identify why i is being a ***** atm and where me manhood n sack be.. whatever it is.. its effecting me whole life atm.. nothings getting be accomplished..
 

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i figured it out... i just need to grow the **** up and do something.. be productive again..... but whats is being grown up anyway.... some elitist construct etc.. idk.. just cause i was be doing grown up things in life, dont me i was be matured eh.. i guess im finally hitting 18.... though im going on 40....

this mental spiral...duh roadblock.... led to me getting duh flu bads; i rarely get sick... been sick fer 2-3 weeks... well the last week be residuals.. ive been gaining weight the last month eating whatever... especially to comfort while i could eat while i was sick..

i tried to break down me mentals and self diagnose, but i found that to be some BS mumbo jumbo,..... like i was looking for an excuse to absolve me from me own shit..

the cold is hurting me body, so i havent been working out in da SUNROOM... im fucking old............. but i been doing push ups, sit ups, body weight squats and light shadow boxing inside da house.. gonna build it back up soon.. just maintaining some strength for now..

me old chef got a hold of me and wants me to do some work at da new place hes working at.. wants me to be his relief on his day/s off... going in sat night for some new place training by fire i guess. ill see how i go before committing i suppose..

idk if cooking gives me what i need..but there is a void..... im okay at cooking. maybe thats who i am.. while i do this and that and that and this.. maybe at me core, i need to cook...idk..... the universe be calling and bring it forth again... perhaps trying to balance me......idk.....

at the same time, i may branch off and look into providing other services if imma be all adult n grows up a tad.. do some new training in sumin.. i wonder what kind of 40 year old traineeships there be out there... mAybe something in healthcare/disability.. that seems rewarding, even though it would probably be shit most of the time.. i probably need to teach me spoiled ass kid that you need to work for shit... not just sit around and game all fucking day like im 12...
 

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AussieBear, maybe you already have it in front of you .
 

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Aussie, how close are you to your target weight nearly 5 months after starting this thread?
 

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Aussie, how close are you to your target weight nearly 5 months after starting this thread?

not close..now off me reasonable monthly target pace to meat me 1 yr goal. i haven't been trying to lose weight since da spiral started.. was on target and pace was guud until me mentals went off the rails. 12 months was the eta..... i may need to push that to 14-16 months now.. unless i go to unhealthy means i used when i was younger boxing... dehydration, laxatives, anorexia.. but **** that shit.. i didnt realize how bad that fucked up me metabolism when i was young.. took a while to fix it when i stopped doing that shit... blacked out and almost fainted walking down some stairs......never went back to dat crazy shit..
 

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not close..now off me reasonable monthly target pace to meat me 1 yr goal. i haven't been trying to lose weight since da spiral started.. was on target and pace was guud until me mentals went off the rails. 12 months was the eta..... i may need to push that to 14-16 months now.. unless i go to unhealthy means i used when i was younger boxing... dehydration, laxatives, anorexia.. but **** that shit.. i didnt realize how bad that fucked up me metabolism when i was young.. took a while to fix it when i stopped doing that shit... blacked out and almost fainted walking down some stairs......never went back to dat crazy shit..
Your mentals will continue to go off the rails til you see some real success with the weight loss. When you were motivated, you put too much work into it and yielded only weak results considering how overweight you were to begin with. The more weight you have to lose, the easier and faster you should see a good chunk of it come off. Your methods haven't worked so it's time to change up. A couple things you need to understand is that what people are told over and over about what is good for them is more often than not just lies. Not only do you not need to eat 3-5 times a day but you shouldn't and need not eat that often. Not only isn't breakfast the most important meal of the day, but it's a meal that needs to be skipped to let the body continue to heal itself even after sleeping.

The first response you got after first making this thread was to do intermittent fasting. That is the thing to do. It may seem unnatural and bad to you now cause you've heard the same bullshit, about eating 3 square meals and a couple healthy snacks each day, your entire life but having to feed yourself constantly throughout the day like this doesn't really make sense if you think about it.

In the beginning of the thread, I couldn't advocate intermittent fasting like I can now, having just done it recently myself. Every Summer, I seem to need to lose about 20 pounds that I pick up post summer. This year, I wasn't really motivated to do so and really needed to lose closer to 30 pounds which made me think it would be a bit too much this time. I knew about intermittent fasting and the concepts behind it so in the last week of May I figured I'd give it a go as it really requires I do nothing but restrict eating for a longer period of time. I didn't go into it with a workout regimen in mind cause, as I understood how this would work, I didn't need one. Sure it would help but it's not necessary cause the body won't revert to eating muscle. It reverts to eating stored fat which, I was thinking, would equal more energy and lower body fat percentage anyway.

I, honestly, could tell it was working from the very beginning so I never rethought the decision to do it even though there were times I was real hungry during the first week of starting it. I was going 18 hours (including sleep time) without eating every day. Second week it started to become much easier and even more obvious that it was working. I hadn't stepped on the scale yet but it was more than obvious to me that I was losing fat and had more energy. There were days I didn't even eat right after 18 hours cause I either wasn't hungry at that point or didn't have a chance to eat right then. So there were many days I went 20-22 hours without eating. It was just last week that I got on the scale. I wasn't even surprised to see I had already reached the goal and lost exactly 30 pounds in that 4-5 week period. I know some may say that's too much weight loss in too little time but I don't believe that bs either. As I said before, the body wants to normalize itself and, given the chance, it will. Funny thing is this felt waaaaaaay better than it has in past years when I'd take 2-3 months to drop the 20 pounds or so. I always felt less energized and a bit weaker all those times I dropped 20 or more pounds even though it was done at a slower rate. Doing it this way, I feel just as strong, if not stronger, at 200 pounds than I did when I was 230 and have an excess of energy. I wish I knew back then what I know now.
 

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Your mentals will continue to go off the rails til you see some real success with the weight loss. When you were motivated, you put too much work into it and yielded only weak results considering how overweight you were to begin with. The more weight you have to lose, the easier and faster you should see a good chunk of it come off. Your methods haven't worked so it's time to change up. A couple things you need to understand is that what people are told over and over about what is good for them is more often than not just lies. Not only do you not need to eat 3-5 times a day but you shouldn't and need not eat that often. Not only isn't breakfast the most important meal of the day, but it's a meal that needs to be skipped to let the body continue to heal itself even after sleeping.

The first response you got after first making this thread was to do intermittent fasting. That is the thing to do. It may seem unnatural and bad to you now cause you've heard the same bullshit, about eating 3 square meals and a couple healthy snacks each day, your entire life but having to feed yourself constantly throughout the day like this doesn't really make sense if you think about it.

In the beginning of the thread, I couldn't advocate intermittent fasting like I can now, having just done it recently myself. Every Summer, I seem to need to lose about 20 pounds that I pick up post summer. This year, I wasn't really motivated to do so and really needed to lose closer to 30 pounds which made me think it would be a bit too much this time. I knew about intermittent fasting and the concepts behind it so in the last week of May I figured I'd give it a go as it really requires I do nothing but restrict eating for a longer period of time. I didn't go into it with a workout regimen in mind cause, as I understood how this would work, I didn't need one. Sure it would help but it's not necessary cause the body won't revert to eating muscle. It reverts to eating stored fat which, I was thinking, would equal more energy and lower body fat percentage anyway.

I, honestly, could tell it was working from the very beginning so I never rethought the decision to do it even though there were times I was real hungry during the first week of starting it. I was going 18 hours (including sleep time) without eating every day. Second week it started to become much easier and even more obvious that it was working. I hadn't stepped on the scale yet but it was more than obvious to me that I was losing fat and had more energy. There were days I didn't even eat right after 18 hours cause I either wasn't hungry at that point or didn't have a chance to eat right then. So there were many days I went 20-22 hours without eating. It was just last week that I got on the scale. I wasn't even surprised to see I had already reached the goal and lost exactly 30 pounds in that 4-5 week period. I know some may say that's too much weight loss in too little time but I don't believe that bs either. As I said before, the body wants to normalize itself and, given the chance, it will. Funny thing is this felt waaaaaaay better than it has in past years when I'd take 2-3 months to drop the 20 pounds or so. I always felt less energized and a bit weaker all those times I dropped 20 or more pounds even though it was done at a slower rate. Doing it this way, I feel just as strong, if not stronger, at 200 pounds than I did when I was 230 and have an excess of energy. I wish I knew back then what I know now.

the weightloss had nothing to do with it.. i had success... lost nearly 40 pounds and got down to 260 ish in 2-3 months eating 6-9 times a day........ ive got a wide thick frame, rb legs and can carry 215/220 n look guud.. my shoulder width is almost as wide as a standard home door frame... look at your bedroom/office door... my shoulders are basically that wide mang...my method was working great imo.. if anything, i know how to get my body in shape.. idk if it would work for other bodies...... strength and endurance was building fairly quick, energy levels were through the roof and weight was coming off at a good pace.. i have noticed i became old though.. this cold weather is a ***** on me bones and muscles..plus me recovery wasnt @ 20-30 year old wolverine levels..

the mentals came after the book release. it resurfaced some shit i pushed down deep.. but at the same time, mentally i feel better after dealing with some of it. it caused me to look at some things and reevaluate..... coming to some realizations...i feel like i matured a tad in the process. being a productive member of society again and teaching me son the importance of work and serving others seems to have jettisoned up me priority list........

even led me to seek out a job agency this week about getting into age/disability care. idk if they can come through but they gave me two applications to fill out.. need dat, a resume/cover and hand it back to them and they will get it the the ppl personally, rather than my shit getting lost in a pile of 1000s..... the disability gig is a shit job, but i think it would be rewarding helping those who cant help themselves and it pays okay.... 31 an hr is the base pay.... 45 an hr for nights i think..
 

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the weightloss had nothing to do with it.. i had success... lost nearly 40 pounds and got down to 260 ish in 2-3 months eating 6-9 times a day........ ive got a wide thick frame, rb legs and can carry 215/220 n look guud.. my shoulder width is almost as wide as a standard home door frame... look at your bedroom/office door... my shoulders are basically that wide mang...my method was working great imo.. if anything, i know how to get my body in shape.. idk if it would work for other bodies...... strength and endurance was building fairly quick, energy levels were through the roof and weight was coming off at a good pace.. i have noticed i became old though.. this cold weather is a ***** on me bones and muscles..plus me recovery wasnt @ 20-30 year old wolverine levels..

the mentals came after the book release. it resurfaced some shit i pushed down deep.. but at the same time, mentally i feel better after dealing with some of it. it caused me to look at some things and reevaluate..... coming to some realizations...i feel like i matured a tad in the process. being a productive member of society again and teaching me son the importance of work and serving others seems to have jettisoned up me priority list........

even led me to seek out a job agency this week about getting into age/disability care. idk if they can come through but they gave me two applications to fill out.. need dat, a resume/cover and hand it back to them and they will get it the the ppl personally, rather than my shit getting lost in a pile of 1000s..... the disability gig is a shit job, but i think it would be rewarding helping those who cant help themselves and it pays okay.... 31 an hr is the base pay.... 45 an hr for nights i think..
Alright, buddy, this is where I have to call bullshit on just about everything in that post of yours but it's for your own damn good.

First, about losing your mentals. You seemed to lose motivation in your weight loss before that ebook thing if you look back at your previous posts. And as I recall, you've been mostly non-productive for over a decade so why now with all the emo stuff? And now you point to applying for a shit job watching after the old and feeble and say the pay is ok at possibly $45 per hour? OK pay? Please, I know of nobody who has made near that amount doing that type stuff. With the slightest bit of OT you'd be talking 100K a year. IDK, maybe Australia is the real land of opportunity but sounds a ton excessive for that type work. I know it's the thing to do to greatly exaggerate one's earnings or even potential earnings on MBs but let's keep it more real, can we?

Now, let's get back to the weight loss thing. You say you know what you're doing and have had success but you don't and you haven't. You were stalling and losing motivation throughout and seeing as you wanted to go from 300 lbs to 200 lbs, losing 30 or so pounds in 5 months is nothing. Being 100 pounds overweight, that first 30 or 40 pounds should melt off quick as you please with the slightest bit of effort. Now looks like you've been gaining weight again so it was nothing you could sustain anyway. You say you you were eating 6-9 meals a day but not only is that very stupid but from your previous posts it seems quite inaccurate as well. In the posts in which you alluded to what you were eating, it was 5-6 meals a day and much more like 1 meal and 4-5 light snacks. You definitely had a calorie deficit going on but never giving your body a break or need to call on all that excess of fat reserve you have.

Back to intermittent fasting and, again, I only push it cause I have just had great success with it. There is more to the concept of IF than just losing weight. When you sleep, your body takes this opportunity of you not stuffing your face and uses it to regenerate and do great things such as produce HGH. As soon as you wake and stuff your face first thing, it stops doing this but if you held off eating for many more hours, it would use that extra time to continue what it was doing while you were sleeping. Obviously it's highly beneficial for us older peeps to afford our bodies more time to produce HGH, which encourages muscle growth and the burning off of fat. I really think you should give IF a try and I'll tell you why.

Look at the lame excuses you've been making during your endeavor to drop 100 pounds of lard. For one thing, I have no doubt your frame is a tight fit through a doorway while lugging around that excess weight. And, as already mentioned, while your workouts seemed rigorous enough, you struggled to stay motivated as most people would especially with the little amount of sleep and aches and pains you say you have. As for as using your age as an excuse, you can shut up about that cause I just told you how I lost 30 pounds in 4-5 weeks (now 35 lbs) and it was easier than I could have possibly imagined and I'm older than you. You also complained about the cold being a deterrent. I hate the cold more than anyone and can tell you it will never get in the way of getting fast results from intermittent fasting. In fact, cold therapy is another method people have used successfully to lose weight. By taking an ice cold shower 5 minutes a day, people have lost 5-6 pounds per week.... but I digress. Let's stay with Intermittent Fasting which, in itself, makes every excuse you've made a non-factor. You won't need those excuses anymore. With intermittent fasting, you need do nothing but stop feeding your face every few hours. And you'll see it has other benefits too. Maybe reduce some of those aches and pains and/or help you sleep better.

Don't really know how overweight you are but just going on the fact you initially wanted to lose 100 pounds and write an ebook about how you lost 100 pounds in 1 year. I think you can forget about that too cause there have been plenty who have lost 100 pounds much quicker than that and already wrote the books. Also, I know, speaking for myself, while I consider about 200 lbs to be optimal for me, if I was to look up what my weight should be at 6' even, it would probably say around 170 lbs which I know would be ridiculously low for me and leave me looking like no more than just skin and bones. Right now, I'm at 195 or was right after I ate 4 fried eggs last night at 11PM. I haven't eaten since but if I was remotely hungry I would eat right now cause I don't want to go any lower. I'll just have a bigger dinner though cause I don't feel like eating now. As I've said I've dropped weight before and get to this weight virtually every year but this time, with intermittent fasting, it feels so very different. In the past when I've gone as low as 195, I'd look gaunt and many people would even comment saying that. This time, I don't look gaunt at all and feel so much stronger. The only place it looks like I've lost weight is in the stomach area. I'm not a health nut either and I don't eat the best stuff and never count calories but what I did do was eat more of the food, I think is good, instead of the food I know is just empty calories. Depending on who you listen to, they might say some of the food you think is good is actually bad but I don't listen to that either. If it's crap food and just empty calories, we all know it so no need to overthink it past that. My main staples during the weight loss were chicken breasts, steak, eggs, sweet potatoes, rice, spinach, broccoli and still had me some peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
 

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You can eat as many portions as you want or as little portions as you want as long as it's the amount of calories your diet needs.

Example: I eat 2,160 calories per day. I can eat all 2,160 in one sitting and not eat the rest of the day, or eat 8 meals of 270 calories in that day, or eat 4 meals of 540 calories in that day, etc. Doesn't matter at all.

I also "intermittent fast" because my entire life I just never liked eating when I woke up. Or eating breakfast. So I guess I fast by default.
 
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You can eat as many portions as you want or as little portions as you want as long as it's the amount of calories your diet needs.

Example: I eat 2,160 calories per day. I can eat all 2,160 in one sitting and not eat the rest of the day, or eat 8 meals of 270 calories in that day, or eat 4 meals of 540 calories in that day, etc. Doesn't matter at all.

I also "intermittent fast" because my entire life I just never liked eating when I woke up. Or eating breakfast. So I guess I fast by default.

Do you eat the same thing every day?
 

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You can eat as many portions as you want or as little portions as you want as long as it's the amount of calories your diet needs.

Example: I eat 2,160 calories per day. I can eat all 2,160 in one sitting and not eat the rest of the day, or eat 8 meals of 270 calories in that day, or eat 4 meals of 540 calories in that day, etc. Doesn't matter at all.

I also "intermittent fast" because my entire life I just never liked eating when I woke up. Or eating breakfast. So I guess I fast by default.
Well, it does matter and I just explained why. It especially matters as we get older and your body needs more time off from your glutenous ways to both heal and produce the good stuff like HGH. Younger people can get away with a lot more cause the body produces more of that good stuff in your youth.

None of my kids have a weight problem but when my oldest was 13 she noticed she looked a bit plump in some pictures. She asked me if she could go gluten free and I said sure. I was thinking she wouldn't stick to it but, 4 years later, she definitely has. She will eat breakfast, lunch and dinner and maybe 1 more time after that. By eating no gluten though, most of what she eats is good stuff so she's in great shape cause she has youth, eats good stuff and, being an athlete, she works out like an animal. Wouldn't work for me though cause I don't have the youth nor desire to work out like an animal and I have no intention of giving up my peanut butter & jelly sandwiches or my bacon, egg and cheese sandwiches on a roll.
 

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I don't understand people who need 5/6 meals in a day. I eat twice a day. Once at noon right after the gym, then in the evening (anywhere between 6 and 9, depending on what I'm doing).
 

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I don't understand people who need 5/6 meals in a day. I eat twice a day. Once at noon right after the gym, then in the evening (anywhere between 6 and 9, depending on what I'm doing).
That's a good enough schedule, I think. It would be almost exactly what is the norm for me. The times I pack on the pounds are when I start making sandwiches between those time or just graze on more food throughout the day cause it's readily available and calling my name.

There's so much stupid shit put out there though and people are all too happy to listen to what they hear the most, especially if it involves eating more. I don't believe in counting calories either. If you're eating nutritious stuff, be it carbs or protein, you're not going to gain weight as you would if you eat crap that has no nutritional value. Other than that, sugar and salt, to a lesser extent, are the main villains. Even worse than regular sugar are those artificial sweeteners. Ever wonder why 9 out of 10 people you regularly see drink diet sodas are fat fucks? For coffee, tea or oatmeal I use raw honey, no doubt the best substitute for sugar. As salt goes, sea salt is better than regular table salt but pink Himalayan salt trumps all.
 

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That's a good enough schedule, I think. It would be almost exactly what is the norm for me. The times I pack on the pounds are when I start making sandwiches between those time or just graze on more food throughout the day cause it's readily available and calling my name.

There's so much stupid shit put out there though and people are all too happy to listen to what they hear the most, especially if it involves eating more. I don't believe in counting calories either. If you're eating nutritious stuff, be it carbs or protein, you're not going to gain weight as you would if you eat crap that has no nutritional value. Other than that, sugar and salt, to a lesser extent, are the main villains. Even worse than regular sugar are those artificial sweeteners. Ever wonder why 9 out of 10 people you regularly see drink diet sodas are fat fucks? For coffee, tea or oatmeal I use raw honey, no doubt the best substitute for sugar. As salt goes, sea salt is better than regular table salt but pink Himalayan salt trumps all.

I love when people don't understand why they are gaining weight and always cite how healthy they eat and work out. Well, Susan, it's because you drink 3 32oz big gulps a day. If I drink a calorie, it's going to have alcohol in it.
 

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Well, it does matter and I just explained why. It especially matters as we get older and your body needs more time off from your glutenous ways to both heal and produce the good stuff like HGH. Younger people can get away with a lot more cause the body produces more of that good stuff in your youth.

I've seen way too many articles and studies that sway back and forth on it and I've come to the conclusion that it's just preference. I can eat twice a day (2 big meals) or eat 6 times a day (smaller meals) and still lose weight.

I don't believe in counting calories either.

Weight loss is all calories based. Eat less = weigh less. It's that simple. I don't care if you eat extremely healthy, if you eat too much you're gonna gain weight.

You can eat straight garbage and lose weight if you really wanted too, it's just hard because fast food isn't that filling but it's loaded with calories.
 

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I've seen way too many articles and studies that sway back and forth on it and I've come to the conclusion that it's just preference. I can eat twice a day (2 big meals) or eat 6 times a day (smaller meals) and still lose weight.



Weight loss is all calories based. Eat less = weigh less. It's that simple. I don't care if you eat extremely healthy, if you eat too much you're gonna gain weight.

You can eat straight garbage and lose weight if you really wanted too, it's just hard because fast food isn't that filling but it's loaded with calories.
There's real science and clinical trials to back up the benefits of intermittent fasting and now, for me, I see the amazing results first hand.

The idea that you could eat junk or nutritional food and have there be no difference because it's just based on calories is simple minded and something you may think works for you but you've already stated you do intermittent fasting by default and maybe that's what saves you from gaining weight from eating junk and/or maybe you really don't eat junk that often for it to be a factor. You could also be a young guy so if you sleep 8 hours and then go another 4 or 5 hours before eating because you skip breakfast that would be 12 or 13 hours of intermittent fast. Because you're younger you could get the same benefit from going 12 or 13 hours that I get from going 18 hours. If it's nutritional your body will put most of it to good use. If it's not, you'll see a bigger portion of it wasted and stored as fat. There will be a difference between the 2, if not seen on the scale, you'll see it in the size of your stomach. Same premise as why some types of food are known to be far more likely to cause bloat.
 

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