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I tried to tell my Aussie buddy about the health benefits before. I know he does have a case of Fibromyalgia and some other issues he's mentioned in the past.

When I started IF and Ketosis before the summer it was more to help me with some issues. I only wanted to lose about 20 pounds, which I often do before summer. I had stomach issues which had gotten much worse as of late and other aches and pains that came from time to time to different body parts. Was getting intense stomach cramps way more often. Couldn't even eat red meat cause it would have an almost instantaneous very negative effect on my stomach. Both ketosis and IF are said to have an anti-inflammatory response on the body as well as being good for the digestive system. Also read taking a couple of tbsp of coconut oil each day helps those with Crohn's so I did that too. This, more than weight loss, is why I combined the 2. After about a month of doing it, lost more weight than expected and the stomach issues completely subsided even as I went back to eating red meat. It was like killing 2 birds with one stone real quick like.

It's almost like you are what you eat, the oldest saying ever... We've changed, but the saying hasn't.

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I dont encourage ketosis for weight loss, it's just a by-product. I encourage a healthy ketogenic diet for the health benefits it brings.

You seem to be solely focused on losing weight and dont care about the health effects that come along with your choices on what you consume. So i'll leave you to that.

Regardless, your approach is still more beneficial to your health than a traditional American diet. So kudos on achieving that.

what i consume is borderline dr gundrys low lectin philosophy. yup.. anova dr... without knowing, my meal i was basically building was what he was preaching anyway...while i wont be following his advice to a t, i will be adjusting more that way though.. such as eliminating chia and sunflower seeds when they run out. ill stay away from beans and those nightshade members etc...while i will keep me mono/poly fats high, ill have higher sat fat than he would recommend.

ive been building my meal around dense nutrient/cal foods.

btw.. i dont pound the gavel on what these drs say.. i be take it with grains of salt too..

also.. i be read these article today

Let's overreact to Week 4 in the NFL: Is the Bears' offense for real?

12:30 PM
Dan Graziano
ESPN Staff Writer

CHICAGO -- Hey, if the football fans in the Windy City want to overreact, who's going to tell them to cut it out? It has been quite a while since the Chicago Bears were fun, and even with the Chicago Cubs back in the playoffs this town is fired up about a 3-1 first-place football team that just put 48 points on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on its way into the bye. Mitchell Trubisky just quadrupled his season touchdown pass total in one delirious afternoon, and if you're not allowed to overreact to that, what's the point of being a fan?

So let's start with the game I got to see in person as part of my Sunday NFL Countdown duties -- a game that was 38-3 at the half and ended 48-10 as Trubisky buried the Bucs' weeklong QB controversy with six touchdown passes of his own against a Tampa Bay team that couldn't do a thing right no matter who was taking the snaps.


Mitchell Trubisky had the best game of his young career, throwing for 354 yards and six TD passes. Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images

The Bears' offense is now as good as their defense
If you're a Bears fan who has been waiting to see the vaunted Matt Nagy offense that lit the league on fire last year in Kansas City, Sunday was your day. Nagy was scheming dudes open and leaning on mismatches with speedsters Tarik Cohen and Taylor Gabriel, and the Tampa Bay defense had no answers. Gabriel scored two touchdowns, including one on a nifty jet-action shovel pass at the goal line. He and Cohen each had seven catches and more than 100 receiving yards as Nagy went away from between-the-tackles running back Jordan Howard and leaned instead on the super-fast dudes he knew the Bucs' defenders couldn't catch. For the first time, Trubisky looked like a quarterback worthy of the 2017 No. 2 overall pick.

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Graziano's verdict: OVERREACTION. Fun, without a doubt. But the Bucs came into the game 27th in defensive DVOA, are banged up in the secondary and are averaging 34.75 points per game allowed. It's important to understand context. Bears players to whom I spoke about this game said they saw something good coming with Trubisky -- that they believe he has been developing the way they'd hoped he would. But no one here is assuming this is the way it's going to look every week. It takes awhile to master the Andy Reid offense Nagy brought from K.C. Alex Smith wasn't driving a league-leading passing attack until Year 5. One day of mastery doesn't mean everything is hunky-dory. What Bears fans should take from this is excitement and hope that this can be what it looks like, eventually. But the defense -- which, by the way, had another monster game with Khalil Mack wreaking havoc in the backfield -- is what will drive the Bears' NFC North title aspirations for this year at least. "It's like the LeBron effect," Bears cornerback Prince Amukamara told me of the Bears' preseason addition of Mack to an already-strong defense. "He just makes everybody better. When you see greatness like that up close, it just makes everyone else want to be great that much more."

Chicago Bears' torrid defense shows no signs of cooling off
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Chicago Bears' torrid defense shows no signs of cooling off
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The general consensus is that the Bears’ defense cannot possibly continue the torrid pace that it’s set in the early going, but there was no slowdown in Sunday’s 48-10 thrashing of the Buccaneers.

The Bears added four more sacks to their league-leading total of 14, and their three interceptions gave them eight for the season, matching their 16-game total in each of the previous three seasons. The interceptions came from S Eddie Jackson, which was his team-best second, OLB Aaron Lynch and ILB Danny Trevathan.

The high-flying Tampa passing game came in averaging 400.7 passing yards per game but managed just 251 at Soldier Field. The Bucs came in averaging 473.3 total yards per game but were held to 311 by the Bears.

“You get better or you get worse,” Trevathan said. “In this situation, we’re getting better. There’s no complacency with this defense. We’re a good defense; we know that. No one is going to come in here and put on a show on our field.”

OLB Khalil Mack who came in tied for the NFL lead with four sacks, added a fifth. He became the first NFL player to force a fumble in each of the first four games of a season and the first player since Robert Mathis in 2005 to have a sack and a forced fumble in four straight games.

“We’re getting better every week,” Mack said of a defense that has allowed fewer points in each week, starting with 24 in the season-opening loss to the Packers, 17 against the Seahawks and 14 against the Cardinals in Week Three. “It’s not just about me. You see the guys on the back end making plays, and that’s what you want to see. It’s a good feeling, especially going into the bye.”

Surviving and thriving

The first NFL start for undrafted rookie CB Kevin Toliver came Sunday against the Bucs, the NFL’s No. 1 passing offense, and he more than survived it.

Matched up frequently with Tampa’s 6-foot-5, 231-pound WR Mike Evans, the 6-foot-2, 192-pound Toliver helped hold the perennial Pro Bowler to just 59 receiving yards, less than half his 123.3-yard average.

“He’s a good player,” Toliver said. “I respect him a lot. On the field we were talking back and forth, I was telling him that I respect him; he told me just keep working. He had a couple catches on me, but I just had to still go out there and compete.”

The Bucs behind backup QB Ryan Fitzpatrick came in to Soldier Filed having thrown for 1,202 yards, the second most in NFL history for the first three games of a season. But the Bears sent Fitzpatrick to the bench after a lackluster first half. Jameis Winston returned to his customary No. 1 spot after serving a three-game suspension to begin the season. But he didn’t fare much better, tossing two of the Bucs’ three interceptions.
 

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Aussie, i'd be hard pressed to tell someone to limit themselves to a carb deficient diet that doesnt put them in ketosis. I think you're hurting yourself more than helping. I'd suggest either adding another 35-45g carbs a day of complex carbs and then cutting back further on your calories (a solid "lose weight" diet), or cutting back another 50g carbs a day to drop into ketosis and give **** all about your calorie intake. But what you're doing right now can have negative affects on your brain.

I do not suggest continuing, but I fully understand you're gonna do what you want.
 

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Aussie, i'd be hard pressed to tell someone to limit themselves to a carb deficient diet that doesnt put them in ketosis. I think you're hurting yourself more than helping. I'd suggest either adding another 35-45g carbs a day of complex carbs and then cutting back further on your calories (a solid "lose weight" diet), or cutting back another 50g carbs a day to drop into ketosis and give **** all about your calorie intake. But what you're doing right now can have negative affects on your brain.

I do not suggest continuing, but I fully understand you're gonna do what you want.

my brane is already fucked, so it matters not, but mentally ive felt pretty sharp n focused to be honest..

most of me carbs are complex carbs..

i did test my body twice this week with more carbs and a little junk... i see a lot of the junky omad peeps and wanted to test something.

i added processed carbs to me fatty protein salad.. ate a half small pizza (400 cals but high carb/suga) one meal and another half 4-5 days later..

the pizza gave me more instant muscle juice for explosive movement the next day.. but definitely way more hunger the following day. when i tried it again, the hunger was even worse than the first pizza addition. i didnt test me muscle during the second run because i took the next day off.. i was planning to workout and take the following day off cause of work.. but i decided to see how work would get in the way and how i reacted being at 20+ hrs fasted and working out again.. the workout was fine this go around..

so from now on.. no more larger portions of processed carbs.. if i go back to pizza, ill have to make an alternative crust.

the majority of me carbs come from sweet potato, heavy greens, veg, seeds......... limited fruit so far

the bs added during this week experiment

pizza (400 cals twice this week)
6 doritos two nights.
1 ice cream sandwich.
diet pepsi caf free during dinner 3 nights.

i know i lost weight this week, just dont know how much yet. some clothes are looser.... i know it wont be the 8.8 lbs like last week... i know i wont hit another week like that. cause i dont get that extra initial water drop.

my main protein so far is chicken legs

sub protien
sardines (4-5 times a week so far), seeds, veg, cheese, and whey powder (replaced pea protein today)

limited
eggs - i like eggs but i find they fill me up quick when adding them to me main protein sources. so i either need to have eggs on days by themselves or ill go with a little portion of my main protein and sub eggs as a main.

mains ill be adding to the weekly chicken leg rotation

hoki, barramundi, basa, chicken wings ... i cant wait for me baked buffalo wings..

lesser main alternates, maybe once, twice a month.
wild kangaroo, grass fed beef
 

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my brane is already fucked, so it matters not, but mentally ive felt pretty sharp n focused to be honest..

most of me carbs are complex carbs..

i did test my body twice this week with more carbs and a little junk... i see a lot of the junky omad peeps and wanted to test something.

i added processed carbs to me fatty protein salad.. ate a half small pizza (400 cals but high carb/suga) one meal and another half 4-5 days later..

the pizza gave me more instant muscle juice for explosive movement the next day.. but definitely way more hunger the following day. when i tried it again, the hunger was even worse than the first pizza addition. i didnt test me muscle during the second run because i took the next day off.. i was planning to workout and take the following day off cause of work.. but i decided to see how work would get in the way and how i reacted being at 20+ hrs fasted and working out again.. the workout was fine this go around..

so from now on.. no more larger portions of processed carbs.. if i go back to pizza, ill have to make an alternative crust.

the majority of me carbs come from sweet potato, heavy greens, veg, seeds......... limited fruit so far

the bs added during this week experiment

pizza (400 cals twice this week)
6 doritos two nights.
1 ice cream sandwich.
diet pepsi caf free during dinner 3 nights.

i know i lost weight this week, just dont know how much yet. some clothes are looser.... i know it wont be the 8.8 lbs like last week... i know i wont hit another week like that. cause i dont get that extra initial water drop.

my main protein so far is chicken legs

sub protien
sardines (4-5 times a week so far), seeds, veg, cheese, and whey powder (replaced pea protein today)

limited
eggs - i like eggs but i find they fill me up quick when adding them to me main protein sources. so i either need to have eggs on days by themselves or ill go with a little portion of my main protein and sub eggs as a main.

mains ill be adding to the weekly chicken leg rotation

hoki, barramundi, basa, chicken wings ... i cant wait for me baked buffalo wings..

lesser main alternates, maybe once, twice a month.
wild kangaroo, grass fed beef

If eggs fill you, what’s the problem? Makes it easier for you to go without eating. They kind of fill me too but I figured it was cause when I eat them, which is fairly often, I never have less than 6 at a time.

There are frozen low carb pizzas on the market now. It’s called Real Good Pizza, and comes in 2 different way. You can either get the one with cauliflower used as the crust or one with a mixture of chicken and cheese used as the crust. I haven’t tried yet but it’s on my bucket list.

Sweet potato has been the only carb thing I don’t say no to. Think it’s got good health benefits so I can’t demonize it like other carbs. So, instead, I embrace it and throw a fat slab of butter on it.
 

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If eggs fill you, what’s the problem? Makes it easier for you to go without eating. They kind of fill me too but I figured it was cause when I eat them, which is fairly often, I never have less than 6 at a time.

There are frozen low carb pizzas on the market now. It’s called Real Good Pizza, and comes in 2 different way. You can either get the one with cauliflower used as the crust or one with a mixture of chicken and cheese used as the crust. I haven’t tried yet but it’s on my bucket list.

Sweet potato has been the only carb thing I don’t say no to. Think it’s got good health benefits so I can’t demonize it like other carbs. So, instead, I embrace it and throw a fat slab of butter on it.

i dont want to eat less though. if i was eating more than once, maybe. eating once makes it a lil mo hard in a sense...im trying to get in the ballpark with all me other macros/micros.

a pro to eating 5+ times is i could stretch out certain things.. while there are certain limitation to me omad, it has its pros too.. will eventually have a full pro/con liss.

weigh in aussie wednesday be tomar.

i havent seen real good pizza in australia.. its a different market fer sure.. they dont even have to list trans fat on most things.. i think they are only legally required to list trans on items that promote/market low cholesterol as a selling point

ill probably make my own crust.. i will develop something eventually..
 

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just had me some crispy juicy ass baked wings i smothered in some buffalo.. made with the franks hot... i must say.. i could eat that shit everyday.. buffalo wings be guud on they own.. fasted fer 24:30 today...they be tasted so greaatttttt..

i think ill go back to the drumsticks with buffalo in the future though.. the wings at me local shop arent very uniform.. mostly small, a couple med, n like 1 big.. it fucks with easily guesstimating meat weight since i leave the wings intact as opposed to stripping meat for me salads. .. drumsticks are pretty uniform if used whole and not stripped ...i can eye them within a few grams whole..

made a sugarless teriyaki sauce for the intact drumsticks last night.. sheit was guud too.... been tired of that salad everyday.. that salad still becames a huge side.. but the main protein flavor profile changes and that's enough fer me n getting some variety. ..

went to me indian friends kids birthday party lass night.. be offended them ova and ova... cause im like i cant eat yo food or cake or drank yo beer.. n they asked 10-15 times.. they culture... n they food is guuud too... but omad.. if i planned betta i could have fasted longer and waited 3 hrs longer.. but i also didnt want to be that pig and eat all they food trying to hit me cals..

will weigh-in tomar..
 

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weigh-in wednesday.......-4.1 pounds fer the week and i still feel me shit coming, haven't donedid that yet. anyway, this loss is after adding pizza twice, chicken wings, a ice cream sandwich, doritos, and diet soda with me meal. also, i pushed me calories up to more sustainable levels fer duh long term. 1800-2200 on any given meal now, i may be averaging 2k a day this week. i need to convert me grams n add up me shit i logged. its higher than the 1600-1800 minimums i didn't want to go below.

this is also doing bs workouts imo. my two week reintroductions finished, but im going to keep doing that until i hit a plateau i think. once i hit a plateau ill either prolong or intensify. well i have intensified some already, but i feel like im doing glorified extended warm ups.... idk. i am fat and out of shape..

so, im down 12.9 in two weeks.

i be compared this some vs me 5-8 meals a day where i miscalculated me 16-1800 cals and was actually hitting around 1000-1600 during the first couple of weeks. my workouts progressed faster and were a lil harder during the same introduction phase of the 5-8 meals. plus, i took less off days to recover. it also took me 18 days to hit 12 pounds on the other plan.
 

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Ice cream sandwich and Doritos... Sounds healthy
 

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Started doing the intermittant fast last week but was doing it wrong, had beers after 8. I'm getting adjusted to lifting in the am with no food in my belly. Question though, is it still okay to cheat the 8 hour fast with 20 grams of protein right after the workout as long as I hold off on an actual meal until noon?
 

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Isn’t high protein part of the fast? And beer is a no no lol

https://www.psmfdiet.com/psmf-guide/

This is the fast I do I’m supplemented with a bunch of vitamins and protein during the day. I lost allot of fat and didn’t lose any muscle doing this one
 

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Isn’t high protein part of the fast? And beer is a no no lol

https://www.psmfdiet.com/psmf-guide/

This is the fast I do I’m supplemented with a bunch of vitamins and protein during the day. I lost allot of fat and didn’t lose any muscle doing this one

LOL i know about the beers. Used to have the metabolism where it didn't matter but the change didn't result in morbid obesity lol. Briefly reading that fast, it sounds pretty intense and not for someone who just needs to lose a few lbs of fat in a challenging area...
 

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Yes this diet isn’t for anyone who doesn’t have strong will lol

If you aren’t that bad off just simple diet and exercise will do. This diet is for obese people 8 week diet. I did it for two weeks got great results from it and wasn’t morbidly obese just wanted a quick fix
 

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Isn’t high protein part of the fast? And beer is a no no lol

https://www.psmfdiet.com/psmf-guide/

This is the fast I do I’m supplemented with a bunch of vitamins and protein during the day. I lost allot of fat and didn’t lose any muscle doing this one

I love some of the quotes in this that are like:

1. This is like starvation, but a little bit better!

2. Follow our guide, cause if not you might die.

3. Don't do this forever, again the death thing is kinda a deal-breaker.
 

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Such radical nonsensical diets are not necessary. Simply take charge of your insulin and it will cease being in charge of you.
 

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Literally stop eating carbs - easiest thing to do ever.

Then you can start winning in all aspects of life.
 

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I love some of the quotes in this that are like:

1. This is like starvation, but a little bit better!

2. Follow our guide, cause if not you might die.

3. Don't do this forever, again the death thing is kinda a deal-breaker.

I did the diet twice once for 3 weeks and once for 2 weeks and lived!
 

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Ice cream sandwich and Doritos... Sounds healthy

yeah, i tried to add sum junk. not much, but enough to get a taste.

this weeks or next weeks experiment on meself will be lowering my protein levels. ive been hitting 120-130g. going to shoot for around 70-80g to see if there is a difference. i noticed after back to back meals with lower protein levels...that on the third day i had symptoms of the keto flu. perhaps it was just the progression of me diet or maybe it was the lower protein. gonna test myself to find out.

another future experiment will be fasting 48+ hrs 1-2 times in a week with heavy band exercise on one and no band exercise (juss boxing) on another. just to see if i get dat hgh boost

at the same time, im doing fine and dont want to change up. but i will experiment... the ice cream sammich and doritos aint on the menu this week. but me other main proteins.. duh fish... is coming online this weigh-in week.
 

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