I think the Bears are going to fire Ryan Poles

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Given the losing streak the Bears are on and what will be their record at the end of the year, I think Poles will be let go. Given the state of the team, and how bad they re, and particularly their lack of improvement, it seems inevitable. At the beginning of the year, people were thinking 9-10 wins now they’ll be lucky to win 5.
 

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I agree. I think they’re going hit the reset button and finally align their GM and Head Coach.
 

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This is a staggered firing, which maybe the Bears are following in the Jets footsteps 🤦‍♂️
 

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I personally think there is no way they will fire poles

Sources? ME
 

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You hated Fields and said he was a franchise killer and you said this before even watching any of his games. Then the Bears drafted him and you hoped on his dick, just like you did with Caleb.

I wanted the Bears to draft Drake Maye since October of last year. You wanted the Bears to take the haul up until they drafted Caleb.

You obese fraud, you will never better me.

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Can they fire warren next?

Poles is the least of the problem trio in this organization. Warren/George are the main ones to blame
Maybe George can just resign and promote himself to roaming the tailgating lot and doing keg stands
 

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I just don’t see it happening after Warren said poles would have final say in HC. Or maybe I’m not remembering his quote exactly. Things can change obviously but ….bears
 

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its a no brainer, which is why this might actually happen.
The Bears organization literally has no brains so don’t put it past them that they don’t.
 

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I’m told the Bears will automatically be better with the subtraction of Nagy & Pace, I mean Eberflus & Poles.

I think what we are seeing is a bunch of meatballs with simplistic brains imploding, because they want quick, easy answers, and to put ALL the blame on a singular person, because that is the lazy, easy way for them to process anything, even if it is incorrect.

And if there is a singular person to blame, its George McCaskey, but they can't get George fired, and they demand a pound of flesh, so they focus on who they believe they CAN get fired. It's almost like they believe in witchcraft - that if they burn the effigy of who they deem the source of their issues (in this case, a player gets cut or a coach gets fired), then magically all the problems disappear with them, and when they don't, whelp, rather than learn that this is the wrong mental approach, they just look for another "effigy to burn" - it's literally primative, stone age thinking.


The reality is, the Bears have a multitude of issues. We can't solve the McCaskey one (really, we don't own the team so we can't solve any of them), but of the ones that potentially need solving:

* Need a GM who is better at drafting AND capable of fixing the offensive line AND capable of identifying good coaching candidates
* Going hand in hand with that, we need better depth at all positions on the field.
* Need a better HC who will be able to steer the locker room and also whose schemes are NFL-sound rather than our last 3 offensive minds, who drew up plays in crayola based on playing too much madden and thought it made them smart.
* Need a better offensive line to protect the QB instead of a coaching staff (and fandom) that overrates the talent there.
* Need better coaches on the staff at the position groups
* Need another RB who can act as a workhorse and we put swift as the 3rd down back he is.
* Need another quality pass rusher, if not 2.

That's a clear-eyed look at everything. There are a lot of "effigies" fans want to "burn" that are just scapegoats for the above issues, and in their stupor, they are willing to part with good or potentially good players who might do better under better coaches.

At the same time, they will overvalue dead weight because those players didn't outshine other players in terms of making a mistake, thus leading to the lionizing of players who are mediocre at best.

And then when you do get a player who potentially might be truly great eventually, they have no patience to let them develop, especially at a position where they've burned so many effigies that it can be considered a religious practice.


This fandom has issues, man...
 

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Not to mention: this is the best o line depth I’ve ever been around…

Nailed the thought. Quotations might help the execution.

But yeah...

The worst draft day experience I've had as a bears fan is initial excitement at Velus Jones Jr on a kickoff in draft day highlights, me thinking "oh that's weird I haven't heard of that guy from a big school," seeking highlights and realizing the few kick returns on draft tv are actually like his only plays in college, that he displays stone hands, bad route running, weird gate, and questionable body coordination(for this level of athlete), and you are like "WTF IS THIS!!"..."HOW IS THIS A THIRD ROUNDER" and then you look at run of WRs in second round and are like damn. .what a group I guess we had to reach ..

...And then you put on Romeo Doubs Fresno State tape when Packers draft two rounds later.

Jaw hits floor. Can't stop banging head on wall.
 

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I was a big Poles fan up until middle of this year. I still think he has made some nice changes to the roster, but the lack of depth on the OL/DL is now very glaring, and it's losing us lots of games. The power structure from ownership down seems to be growing more dysfunctional by the day, and I don't know that with McCaskey/Warren running things that firing Poles is going to make that much of a difference. Johnson seems like a brilliant offensive mind, but so were Nagy/Trestman. Neither were leaders of men, and both came crashing down quickly. Is Johnson and whichever GM he works with different? IDK, but if they are not, then things will just continue on the same path, and we will waste the best QB talent we have ever had.
I liked Poles as well. I didn't like him retaining Eberflus. It looked like we were building something especially towards the end of last year. The defense looked like it would be a top 5-10 unit. The neglect of the line on both sides, his horrible W/L record and him retaining Eberflus are why he has to go. The end result has been horrible. I do think there is a better core than what the W/L record shows but he clearly can't identify line talent nor should he have any say in the head coach.
 

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The core question is whether Poles can build a Super Bowl roster.
If the answer is anything short of yes, he needs to go.
 

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