Ian R: Bears offered a lot for Stafford

[HansGruber]

Reports are the niners are looking at trading for Kirk Cousins..lol

 

[dabears70]

I am glad pace is being serious about getting a qb, but i feel he will strike out and we will end up with jimmy g.

Yeah it's definitely scary knowing that Pace could take a huge swing this offseason and if he strikes out then it could end up really hurting this team for the next 3-4 years......again. We all know what a risk the draft is and how hard it is to find a legit QB in drafts no matter where they're drafted so it will be very interesting to see what they end up doing.

I'm obviously hoping for D.Watson but if not that then trading up for one of the top 4 in the draft and if not that then just getting a veteran in free agency or trade and still drafting one somewhere in this draft. I was down with going after Jamie Newman in the mid to late rounds but he was brutal in the Senior Bowl.

 

[dabears70]

For the right price, I think he would be a great fit here

I'm not against getting Teddy at all and wasn't against last offseason. He isn't gonna take us to a Super Bowl but i definitely can see him taking us to the playoffs and maybe even make some noise in the playoffs. The dude can throw the rock and has some mobility as well. I think i'd still put Jameis over him but i'd still want them to draft one in the mid rounds of the draft.

 

[r1terrell23]

I think having a lame duck HC and Gm hurts a lot.

If it doesn't work out with Pace and Nagy I'm sure Watson will have a chance to get involved in the hiring process for the coach and GM.

 

[thenewguy]

For the right price, I think he would be a great fit here

You think so? I feel like he has some of the same restrictions that haven't translated well to Nagy's offense. He's smarter and a bit more accurate than Mitch, but doesn't push the ball downfield any better.

 

[Leomaz]

That was my thought, would seem like Philly would be the most likely candidate.
Using the TVC and basing the 2022 1st round value based off of the 2017 QB trade ups, it would take something like this to get up to 6.

#6 value is 1600, #20 value is 850 so need at least 750 points in addition to the 2022 #20 pick

2021 #20 850 pts
2021 #83 175 pts
2021 #147 31 pts
2021 #178 19pts
2022 1st rounder about #36 540 pts ( 20 +16 for 1/2 round later in 2022 )

total 1615 pts

The 2022 draft pick for the BEARS is gonna be a top 10 pick not the “36th” pick

 

[Nail Polish]

Orton, Grossman, McCown, Trubisky.

I was actually just giving you credit and assuming you were making some sense. But now that I examine it your post is even dumber than I initially thought. All these guys were drafted by the Bears.

And you can’t even maintain a coherent argument. At first you were saying Watson is a cast off in some lame attempt to make him look bad. As if everybody on here is bumbling idiots and would fall for some guy on the internet calling him a “cast off.” Then you tried to say trading for him would cripple them cap wise, but you like him as a player. Then why were you calling him a cast off on the previous page? Do you even know what you’re saying? Are you capable of holding a coherent conversation?

Just the fact that you believed you could push the narrative the he‘s a “cast off” tells me everything I need to know. I’m wasting my time even engaging with you.

Now...go back and count the trades we had.

List of Chicago Bears starting quarterbacks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

BTW...A drafted QB (Grossman) took us to a SB

 

[PrideisBears]

Turns out the panthers offered their 8th, their next first and a few more picks.

 

[thenewguy]

Turns out the panthers offered their 8th, their next first and a few more picks.

You are saying two 1sts+? Link?

 

[CHIBEAR]

I think having a lame duck HC and Gm hurts a lot.

I said this 3 weeks ago if they trade for a starter it will be under the condition that both Nagy and Pace are extended because no veteran starter will knowingly allow himself to be sold on something by guys that could be gone in a few months.

Im not talking about the salvage jobs Taylor,Mariota but the bonafides in Watson, Ryan, Stafford etc .

 

[PrideisBears]

You are saying two 1sts+? Link?

Bears, Broncos and Panthers offered Lions first-rounder and more for Matthew Stafford, per report

www.google.com

There was a tweet too

 

[run and shoot]

Ian R: Bears offered a lot for Stafford

I'm glad he didn't end up here. It woulda' been cutler all over again

 

[Bearfanfromnewjersey]

while stafford would have been an upgrade is depressing watching Pace and Nagy go all in on another older QB while trading away more of our future. We should jave just moved on and started over. This clown act has been going down hill ever since Nagy moved to his offense on 2019. Its been a disaster ever since and i dont expect that to change

 

[Leomaz]

Orton, Grossman, McCown, Trubisky.

I was actually just giving you credit and assuming you were making some sense. But now that I examine it your post is even dumber than I initially thought. All these guys were drafted by the Bears.

And you can’t even maintain a coherent argument. At first you were saying Watson is a cast off in some lame attempt to make him look bad. As if everybody on here is bumbling idiots and would fall for some guy on the internet calling him a “cast off.” Then you tried to say trading for him would cripple them cap wise, but you like him as a player. Then why were you calling him a cast off on the previous page? Do you even know what you’re saying? Are you capable of holding a coherent conversation?

Just the fact that you believed you could push the narrative the he‘s a “cast off” tells me everything I need to know. I’m wasting my time even engaging with you.

McCown was not drafted by the Bears. He was drafted by the Arizona Cardinals in the 3rd round , 81st overall in 2002

 

[Aquineas]

Ugh, this is disheartening. I know they want to do any and everything possible to win while Virginia is still in this world, but honestly I'd rather they get the rest of the team better: offensive and defensive lines, CBs, receivers, team speed, and then just draft or develop a QB letting him play run and play-action. The lack of high-round draft choices over the last few years have shown up on the field.

 

[menacemanic]

Nope. I for one don't care if we get Watson, but for the duration of his current contract he puts up hellaciously good numbers that don't translate to championships. Waste of everyone's damn time. Ask Moon,Mariono,Fouts or Rivers if they'd trade multiple 4,000 yard seasons for Super Bowl rings.

Warren Moon didnt win SB because of racism ...

 

[Leomaz]

Nope. I for one don't care if we get Watson, but for the duration of his current contract he puts up hellaciously good numbers that don't translate to championships. Waste of everyone's damn time. Ask Moon,Mariono,Fouts or Rivers if they'd trade multiple 4,000 yard seasons for Super Bowl rings.

I was talking with “Mariono” the other day and he said he was all about his stats and nothing else. He said if a win or a championship came with it he would have been ok with it.

 

[Nail Polish]

Ugh, this is disheartening. I know they want to do any and everything possible to win while Virginia is still in this world, but honestly I'd rather they get the rest of the team better: offensive and defensive lines, CBs, receivers, team speed, and then just draft or develop a QB letting him play run and play-action. The lack of high-round draft choices over the last few years have shown up on the field.

+10000000000000^^
And yet there are people who want to give up even more 1st rounders to attain a QB that has the deck stacked against him in Chicago.

 

[Leomaz]

Lions didn't want trade Stafford in division, but they will have no problem fleecing Pace and flipping Goff for our 1st rounder

Why is that do you think? ..it’s not like he was above average against the NFC North...26-35 to be exact. Maybe the best thing to do was trade him in the division. He had a losing record against all except the Bears and he was only 11-9 against us.

 

[CHIBEAR]

Ugh, this is disheartening. I know they want to do any and everything possible to win while Virginia is still in this world, but honestly I'd rather they get the rest of the team better: offensive and defensive lines, CBs, receivers, team speed, and then just draft or develop a QB letting him play run and play-action. The lack of high-round draft choices over the last few years have shown up on the field.

So you would rather just continue the bears tradition of mediocrity ?


How many great teams that all it needs is a qb do we have to build before some of you realize that IT DOES NOT WORK !!!!




2015
Kevin White
Eddie Goldman

2016
Leonard Floyd
Cody Whitehair

2017
Mitch
Shaheen

2018
Roquan
James Daniel *
Anthony Miller*

2019
Khalil Mack
David Montgomery

2020
Khalil Mack
Kmet *
James Johnson *


If you can get a franchise changing player YOU DO IT !!!