IGT: Heat (31-9) at Bulls (35-9) 3/14/12 8:30 CT on CSN Chicago/ESPN

[houheffna]

And Rose couldn't sleep all summer long, according to you, because LeBron was in his ear and shut him down, by himself, and hurt Rose's feelings.

Tell me where Wojnarowski said that. You seem to be giving sketchy second-hand accounts of other people's (credible or not) opinions.

And I don't care what Jordan said about Rose. He also said "don't be surprised if you see this team win 6 more titles." Something that contradicts what BOTH of us believe about this team.

And whoopteedoo, I try to break-down the PG's by characteristic instead of lumping their overall abilities for once (which incites bickering between the likes of FT and thechosenone).

Rose couldn't sleep because he felt he let the team down...he took full responsibility for what happened, and has done so continuously. It happened to Magic Johnson 30 years ago. after Magic had won a title...but somehow playoff losses and players impeding his way...couldn't possibly get to Rose. What was he...22? You have to be kidding me...

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Rose couldn't sleep because he felt he let the team down...he took full responsibility for what happened, and has done so continuously. It happened to Magic Johnson 30 years ago. after Magic had won a title...but somehow playoff losses and players impeding his way...couldn't possibly get to Rose. What was he...22? You have to be kidding me...

That isn't exactly what you said in your original post though. You basically made Rose seem like he cried himself to sleep every night and woke up screaming.

 

[houheffna]

I did. Thanks for counting. First game I worked was Game 5 of the 1993 NBA Finals, last game was Game 6 of the 1996 NBA Finals.

All this time...and I still don't give a damn. You would think somebody who watched the Bulls win titles wouldn't put so much into a regular season game...you would think that...but again, proximity doesn't mean anything when you don't know what the hell you are watching.

So all game sin between that time, I was there for.

What that has to do with anything, i don't know, but thanks for bringing it up. All I know is today the had a great win over the supposed best team in the NBA and did it without their best player, their starting 2 guard, and Deng and Boozer having bad games.

We feel good about it and you come in saying it doesn't mean anything. Heat trolls have been saying that all day. Then you talk about how lebron shut Rose down and gave him nightmares and blah blah blah, yet, you call yourself a Bulls fan.

You felt so good about it that without provocation, you tell the 7 people who voted that the Heat would win...to "suck it". But somehow you calling others out for "trolling" makes it okay for you to do it? Think about that for a minute though...how old are you? 42? And you tell people who thought the Heat would win to "suck it"....after a regular season game. But you saw soooooo much and know so much about the game. GTFOH!

People reading your posts wouldn't get that impression.

Just saying.

Then those people shouldn't read my posts...because I am not trying to prove to anybody that I am anything...I am posting my opinions.

But this is a free country...don't read the posts. I have one guy on this forum blocked...because I can't get the precious seconds back it took reading his drivel, and I only have one life to live. So I have no complaints about what he writes. You should do the same.

 

[thechosenone]

As I can see JLIII pissed many people off!

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

you guys who are harping about the difference between the playoffs and regular season..i'm not going to totally disagree in regards to the heat

but keep in mind a big reason for the heat doing alot better in the playoffs vs. the bulls than the regular season is because in the regular season lebron,bosh, and wade were still learning how to play together...

it wasnt really until the end of the season and the playoffs that we saw the heat play as a unit and play to their total hype and potential

but there isnt that excuse this season..lebron,wade, and bosh have had a year and a playoffs under their belt..its really not the same to compare what happened last year to this year

the one argument i can see is that this bulls team is not totally built for the playoffs..they have one real star..one guy who can be relied upon to make consistent baskets...

can you win a title with that? yes...but it becomes more difficult when you dont have atleast a solid second option

and then theres the issue with consistent shooting and really i could go on

i think its hard to say how much this win means...i dont think you can really say "oh well this means nothing at all" or "this means everything" because we really dont know at this point...what i can say is that the bulls are a pretty damn good team....honestly with more health and a still improving and refining rose the bulls are better than last year

but yes...regular season and the playoffs...very different

doesnt matter if its the two best teams playing each other in the regular season...the playoffs is a series where you revolve your whole gameplan around that team..the demeanor, the emotion,the mindset..its just not the same

 

[houheffna]

That isn't exactly what you said in your original post though. You basically made Rose seem like he cried himself to sleep every night and woke up screaming.

He might have...I don't think he likes Lebron much...and he definitely didn't like losing to him. Magic lost to his nemesis and it bothered him. Lebron lost to the Celtics twice and it bothered him...a lot. Same with Wade and even Kobe. Dirk was so happy he beat Wade he was out of shape to start the season. Of course its psychological...why wouldn't it be?

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

lebron's a pussy

 

[Glide2keva]

Then those people shouldn't read my posts...because I am not trying to prove to anybody that I am anything...I am posting my opinions.

Actually you're posting other people's opinions.

But this is a free country...don't read the posts. I have one guy on this forum blocked...because I can't get the precious seconds back it took reading his drivel, and I only have one life to live. So I have no complaints about what he writes. You should do the same.

You really enjoy being a jerk to people it seems.

Yeah I said suck it to the 7 votes for Miami, I don't see any of them mad about it. They were happy with the win, unlike you coming in telling people it doesn't mean anything.

Granted no one really disagrees with you, but it's a nice and we can be happy about for a few hours, Wouldn't you agree?

We'll see what happens in the playoffs. Also, I'm going to hazard a guess and I'm willing to be wrong on this. But I wonder if Miami had won this game would you be in here saying "I told you so" that the Bulls are no match for Miami.

Just curious.

And people read everyone's posts, and who said anything about proving something? You call yourself a Bulls fan, yet you spend a lot of time on here defending lebron and the Heat.

I guess you just like to insult people and be an asshole.

 

[thechosenone]

I bet that DRose is looking forward for this match up and he is gonna kick Lebron's ass really hard if they put him on Rose for the whole game.

 

[houheffna]

Actually you're posting other people's opinions.

You really enjoy being a jerk to people it seems.

Yeah I said suck it to the 7 votes for Miami, I don't see any of them mad about it. They were happy with the win, unlike you coming in telling people it doesn't mean anything.

Granted no one really disagrees with you, but it's a nice and we can be happy about for a few hours, Wouldn't you agree?

We'll see what happens in the playoffs. Also, I'm going to hazard a guess and I'm willing to be wrong on this. But I wonder if Miami had won this game would you be in here saying "I told you so" that the Bulls are no match for Miami.

Just curious.

And people read everyone's posts, and who said anything about proving something? You call yourself a Bulls fan, yet you spend a lot of time on here defending lebron and the Heat.

This post shows that you don't comprehend...you read...which is pointless. I said in the post that if the Heat had won by 30...it was still a regular season game. Now I remember last week, when I brought up that Howard manhandled Noah, you pointed to Noah being "tired"...yet, not the same excuse for the Heat...why not?

I am usually only a jerk to people who are jerks to me. Most who know me think I am a sweetheart of a guy.

Now that we got that out the way. Your hurling an insult at people...trolling after a Bulls win...is somehow tempered because nobody responded? So its cool for you to tell them to "suck it"...what an idiotic thought.

If I am writing other's opinions...whose opinions are they? Please tell me...

 

[houheffna]

I bet that DRose is looking forward for this match up and he is gonna kick Lebron's ass really hard if they put him on Rose for the whole game.

Lebron couldn't physically handle guarding Rose for a whole game. He guarded him in the fourth quarter...

 

[thechosenone]

 

[Glide2keva]

Lebron couldn't physically handle guarding Rose for a whole game. He guarded him in the fourth quarter...

And funneled him to his help defense and traps.

 

[houheffna]

And funneled him to his help defense and traps.

Dude...give it a damn rest for crying out loud..

I was hoping we would see James on Rose when it mattered because I wanted to see how this season’s Bulls played it. Sure enough, Rose was going nuts early in the fourth quarter, blasting through three or four Heat defenders and more than 1,000 pounds of uncalled fouls on one play.
And then James switched on to Rose. And then Rose missed. And missed again. And the Bulls went scoreless for, I don't know, ever.
James smothered Rose down the stretch Sunday the way he smothered Rose down the stretch in the Eastern Conference Finals the way he will smother Rose down every stretch until Rose gets some help.
That help should’ve been Richard Hamilton. He is this season’s new toy. He was brought in to punish teams that sat on Rose, specifically the Heat. Heck, maybe only the Heat.
Hamilton is supposed to be the truth when opponents dare someone other than Rose to beat them. He might turn out to be that guy, but he wasn’t on Sunday. Wasn’t close.-Steve Rosenbloom

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...coach-tom-thibodeau-derrick-rose-lebron-james

Continue to live in a world of make believe...I agree with Pippen when it comes to James' performance defensively against the Bulls.

 

[FirstTimer]

You expect me to take a Yahoo Opinion Writer, who likes to use anonymous sources, seriously? Please...

Yes.

You expect us to take you: someone who never played the game,wasn't sure if Oscar Robertson is better than Clyde Drexler, thinks increased muscle mass slowed down Lebron James..and on and on and on seriously?


You're one of the worst posters on the entire site..which is a pretty impressive feat around here given you are up against Glide, Waldo, CO, bb54 for that honor but you routinely put yourself in that position.

And funneled him to his help defense and traps.

Yeah because these "helps" and "traps" don't exist when Lebron isn't guarding Rose.

:rolling:

Lebron clownsuited Rose on his own. Rose couldn't even break down Lebron to get by him to the traps and help which is why Rose was chcuking air balls as the clock wound down.

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houf just ethered the **** out of you two and this thread.

 

[Glide2keva]

Dude...give it a damn rest for crying out loud..

I was hoping we would see James on Rose when it mattered because I wanted to see how this season’s Bulls played it. Sure enough, Rose was going nuts early in the fourth quarter, blasting through three or four Heat defenders and more than 1,000 pounds of uncalled fouls on one play.
And then James switched on to Rose. And then Rose missed. And missed again. And the Bulls went scoreless for, I don't know, ever.
James smothered Rose down the stretch Sunday the way he smothered Rose down the stretch in the Eastern Conference Finals the way he will smother Rose down every stretch until Rose gets some help.
That help should’ve been Richard Hamilton. He is this season’s new toy. He was brought in to punish teams that sat on Rose, specifically the Heat. Heck, maybe only the Heat.
Hamilton is supposed to be the truth when opponents dare someone other than Rose to beat them. He might turn out to be that guy, but he wasn’t on Sunday. Wasn’t close.-Steve Rosenbloom

LeBron smothers Rose, Bulls again - Chicago Tribune

Continue to live in a world of make believe...I agree with Pippen when it comes to James' performance defensively against the Bulls.

See, other people's opinions.

Like I said, lebron funneled Rose to help and they trapped him a lot. If you disagree with that then we don't have anything else to talk about. Post all the articles you want. lebron is going to smother Rose almost by default because he's bigger than him, But that doesn't take away from the fact that Miami used a lot of traps and help defense on Rose.

Did lebron do a good job on him? Sure he did. but he didn't shut him down by himself. I know you're so much a lebron fan that you want to praise your God with shit that he really didn't do. He had help and everyone was focused on stopping Rose.

 

[FirstTimer]

Like I said, lebron funneled Rose to help and they trapped him a lot.

No he/they didn't.

Quit white knighting for Rose, it's pathetic.

 

[Glide2keva]

No he/they didn't.

Quit white knighting for Rose, it's pathetic.

They did.

So you are saying that Miami didn't trap and funnel Rose to help defense and that lebron shut him down all by himself?

Okay, I got a bridge in NYC that I need to unload, I can sell it to you really cheap.

 

[FirstTimer]

They did.

So you are saying that Miami didn't trap and funnel Rose to help defense and that lebron shut him down all by himself?

Lebron clown suited Rose on his own.

LOL at you think all of a sudden this trap and help defense that the Heat ran appeared when Lebron was on Rose.

Just deal with it. Rose couldn't close down games in the ECF the way Lebron did..on both ends of the floor.

LeClutch

Derchoke Rose

 

[Glide2keva]

Lebron clown suited Rose on his own.

LOL at you think all of a sudden this trap and help defense that the Heat ran appeared when Lebron was on Rose.

Just deal with it. Rose couldn't close down games in the ECF the way Lebron did..on both ends of the floor.

LeClutch

Derchoke Rose

Good job Heat fan, how did leclutch do in the Finals? Oh wait.

Clown.