Is Coaching an Issue?

Should Thibs be fired after this season?

  • Yes, he's stubborn and hurts players and/or doesn't develop rookies

    Votes: 3 18.8%
  • Yes, the players are losing motivation to play for him

    Votes: 2 12.5%
  • Yes, even if the Bulls make it to the Finals/Win Title this year

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No, unless the Bulls fail to make it to the Finals/Win title this year

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No, he'll still be better than any replacement

    Votes: 4 25.0%
  • No, he's an elite coach and elite coaches go through bumps too

    Votes: 7 43.8%

  • Total voters
    16
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Bear Pride

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Pau's rebounding numbers are skewed. Watch how he plays the rebound game.....his rebounds are tip backs or he goes straight up with his height and reach. He doesn't like boxing out.

I still think he's the best offensive weapon we have on the team tho so he needs to be out there. He's not a physical guy, but he'll get his numbers and impact the game on the offensive end.

Bull's haven't had consistency in terms of clean rebounds. Has anyone else noticed how many loose balls the bulls seem to lose rebounding? There would be times where they would have a shot at a clean rebound then they fumble it and it goes out of bounds and turnover. Idk what the cause of that is, maybe lack of focus? Idk but i've seen it on too many times to brush it off as just an anomaly.

Right, it comes down to Thib's using Pau properly. Pau's weakness is going up against physical bigs. So quit trying to post him up against bigs like Nene! Pau needs to fill the stretch 4 role against those teams. It's all about matchups, and Thib's doesn't know how to do it.

Just like Noah starting the offense from the 3 pt line. Has anyone ever seen a defender closer than 10 feet when they check Noah when he does this? NO. Cuz he's not a threat to hit the outside shot. Noah need to be down low to get the offensive rebounds.
 

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I was a big thibs supporter. Now I think he needs to go. I think coaching is the problem. I think this roster is to talented to do this poorly.
 

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I know most of you guys think Rick Bucher is a joke, but he's hearing that Thibbs is pretty much gone unless we reach the finals. Names he's hearibg for potential replacements are Adrian Griffin and Fred Hoiberg.
 

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I know most of you guys think Rick Bucher is a joke, but he's hearing that Thibbs is pretty much gone unless we reach the finals. Names he's hearibg for potential replacements are Adrian Griffin and Fred Hoiberg.

That's some upgrade.
 

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Starting lineup only in tact for 15 of 50 games so far. 12-3 in those 15 games. The team's best shooter, team defender, and glue guy, Mike Dunleavey has missed the past 17 games. The record is 7-10. Also, Noah, Butler, & Rose missed games during that stretch. Yeah injuries haven't had a major effect on this team's consistency at all. :smh:
 

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Mike Dunleavy is would be one of the greatest players in the league if hes the difference between 12-3 and 7-10

not having his shooting hurts no doubt but i think we are putting too much on him being out

the flaws we have now have been with us all season

maybe Jimmy slowing down is what is making them more evident or maybe its Rose playing too selfishly or maybe its a combination of both along with Dun being absent

but this team has had the same flaws all season
 

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hire Hoiberg than grab some good defensive assistants and have a staff similar to the Warriors

then all we need is to start building up our team with shooters and soon enough we'll have a modern era basketball team and not some farce "twin towers" with zero shooters from the 1960's

man im so ready for that :D

of course all this happens in a perfect world so it ain't happening...we're stuck with old slow plodding teams thats scrappy for a few years then eventually throws in the towel because they know they suck

the Bulls will never be showtime and ive got to accept the harsh reality of that fact
 

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How many coaching hires does a gm get to make before getting fired. Angelo got one hire. Emery got one. If thibs gets fired this would be gar's second hire?
 

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A little tidbit about Thib's fav player.......

 

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A little tidbit about Thib's fav player.......


guys knocked down my PER/TS stats but thats pretty much the end of the discussion right there

im sure none of the other 8 are getting 30 minutes on a contending team either (or supposed contending team)
 

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A little tidbit about Thib's fav player.......


How this guy continues to receive 25+ mins a game is beyond me. Teams don't even defend him at times. He isnt athletic, he isn't a sharpshooter and he really isn't that much of a playmaker but because he shows good effort defensively (still not a lockdown defender), Thibs continues to give him minutes. Its not like he is on Tony Allen's level defensively that his performance on that end outweighs his impact offensively.
 

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Kendrick Perkins is the only player i see with a PER of 7.72 getting significant minutes on a supposed contender (who isn't even in the playoffs at the moment) and hes only getting 19 minutes a game so not even as much as Hinrich

Kirk is the only player in the entire NBA with a PER that bad and over a 1000 minutes played

even if you adjust that to players with simply a single digit PER and 1000+ played most of those guys play for teams like the Magic, Kings, Jazz etc aka the basements of the NBA

if Hinrich was an elite defender maybe you could look past this (as defense is known to be undermined in PER ratings) but hes even slid in that department so its a pretty worrisome number

plus anybody with 2 eyes and a TV can tell you Hinrich ain't playing too hot

the stats prove it, the eyes prove it...what more do you need?
 

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It is not just his minutes. He was guarding Trevor Ariza the other day. Why is Hinrich guarding SFs and starting?
 

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It is not just his minutes. He was guarding Trevor Ariza the other day. Why is Hinrich guarding SFs and starting?
Because for some strange reason Thibs would not start Tony Snell
 

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or play him at all

very weird
Legitimately a mind boggling decision considering the matchup. I mean, Snell has great length which can be used to cover Ariza, whose only advantage over Hinrich was the fact that he's like half a foot taller. Then you can use Hinrich to help the bench unit chill out a bit because they played like general trash against Houston.

I know the fun fact of the day is that Hinrich is like the 8th worst player in the NBA or something, but I guarantee if you bring him off the bench instead of starting him, he'll vault up those rankings. He's being overmatched starting at SG right now.

Idk what's going through Thibs' head right now.
 

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or play him at all

weird considering Snell has played somewhat ok recently

It makes no sense. Snell was playing well. He was not making mistakes either. He could have shot better, but you can say that about the entire team.

First he starts Mirotic for one game out of the blue. Now Hinrich is back starting. Not sure how just about everyone can tell the team is better with Hinrich off the bench and Snell starting until Dunleavy gets back except Thibs.
 

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They drafted Tony Snell for his shooting, but he can't hit the broad side of a barn with a basketball.

The Bulls will drop him like it's hot in the offseason. Kirk should be gone too, but don't hold your breath with this FO.
 

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I know the fun fact of the day is that Hinrich is like the 8th worst player in the NBA or something, but I guarantee if you bring him off the bench instead of starting him, he'll vault up those rankings. He's being overmatched starting at SG right now.

Idk what's going through Thibs' head right now.

That is why I don't really understand the Hinrich hate. If you started Brooks at the SG and had him guard SF and had him play ~30 minutes a game how well would he play? He would probably be complete ass. He would get pushed around. He would be guarded by larger players, many of whom are extremely athletic wings.

I know the Hinrich is great after all-star break talk has happened. He won't heat up if he is guarding SF and being guarded by SGs and playing 30 minutes a game.

I know some people probably look at me as a Hinrich apologist. I just think he is being misused. He has a skill set that can help a team and he is very cost effective. Right now the Bulls are not using him to his strengths. His defense has still been very good even though he is not guarding his position. He is still the best player on the team at running an NBA offense. He is still the best pick and roll/pop passer and the best passer into the post. He is not a score first PG. He is not an efficient scorer.

As a backup PG he is a plus player when playing against other backup PGs. As a starting SG he isa huge negative.

Why the **** is he a starting SG??????
 
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