IST: Chicago Cubs (1-1) at Colorado Rockies (2-0)

[Boobaby1]

Glavine and Buerhle are also recent examples of control pitchers and the former went into the HOF on the first ballot the same year as Mad Dog.

How long did Jamie Moyer pitch? I am in no way writing off Hendricks after one game. Sometimes finesse pitchers can survive. He only has to do it until they get another TOR guy. I just want him to be serviceable as he can help take a little sting off of the E-Jax debacle.

Sure they could figure him out. If he has the control and can keep the ball down at Wrigley, I could care less if he has an out pitch.

Not comparing his pitching skills to Lester, Kershaw, Bumgarner, but they have all looked bad so far. If he blows chunks after a couple of months, so be it. They will just have to move a little faster to get someone better.

 

[Bear Pride]

Jealous?

Actually no. Most of the MLB players I know were friends of the NFL players I know. :dunno:

 

[SilenceS]

Actually no. Most of the MLB players I know were friends of the NFL players I know. :dunno:

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[JosMin]

What if I told you that I have Fisch watching you right now? I mean at this exact moment

 

[Bear Pride]

Like usual ... nice input!

 

[SilenceS]

Like usual ... nice input!

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[Chief Walking Stick]

Like usual ... nice input!

How did you know the hot blond Russian chick in your avatar?

 

[Bear Pride]

How did you know the hot blond Russian chick in your avatar?

Nice try you wannabe?

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Nice try you wannabe?

Definitely wannabe... you mentioned earlier you used to know her.

 

[Bear Pride]

Definitely wannabe... you mentioned earlier you used to know her.

I could give you her phone number, or email if you wanted......

 

[Boobaby1]

A team has to score runs to succeed. You get offense from where you can. No one even knows , except beckdawg, whether Alcantara will be successful. You can bring Russell up when he's ready and move Castro to 2B or vice versa. There is no reason to get rid of Castro. I like Russell better than most, but I also value the art of putting the bat on the ball more than most.

When did I say to get rid of Castro? I said I believe that Russell defense and game are superior, and I would venture to say that Maddon thinks so too as he has implied as much, and that Castro would provide the better return over Baez. Hell, Castro may move to 2B or 3B.

BTW, the same scouts and analysts that are hyping up Bryant, are also doing the same for Russell. That should say a little something too.

Compare Castro to whomever you want like Jeter and such like SilenceS did. The difference is, I have never heard of the Yankees wanting to deal their SS, and if Castro was all that, neither would the Cubs.

Again, it's just my opinion, but I hear it a lot from non-Cubs fans too about Castro so........:dunno:

 

[Bear Pride]

Castro won't be the SS when the Cubs win the WS, imo, I'd bet $500 right now!

 

[Parade_Rain]

I don't even know what you're point of contention here. I never once said it was a good trade for the cubs. I said it made sense and could have worked out just like trading for Arrieta and Strop could have been two players who never were. Anyone bitching about the trade has yet to come up with a plausible solution at 3B that the cubs clearly were hoping Stewart was when they made the trade outside of keeping ARam.

What do you want here? You want me to be pissed at the cubs for making this trade? Sorry, Colvin who was at best a 4th/5th outfielder and DJ who's a fringe starter at best aren't going to get me riled up. Not every trade works out. That's the way baseball works. Spare me this outrage that the cubs lost two marginal players trying to fill a position they had nothing at in 2012. If there's anything to be outraged about it is that the front office did so poorly acquiring talent the years leading up to 2012 that lead them to have to go outside the organization to find a 3B in 2012 when they let ARam walk in FA.

Good grief, man. Here's the way it works. Some of us didn't like the trade in the first place. Did you think there would be an Epstein article where Epstein claimed he didn't like the trade when he was making the trade? :facepalm:

We didn't like the trade at the time. Epstein didn't like the trade in hindsight. You are continuing to defend the logic of the trade, even after epstein stated "we fell into some familiar traps."

 

[Parade_Rain]

We would ignore you, but the damn software doesn't allow it, cuz somebody had a brainfart and made you a mod. :smh:

That mod had a brainfart and let's you keep posting.

 

[Parade_Rain]

When did I say to get rid of Castro? I said I believe that Russell defense and game are superior, and I would venture to say that Maddon thinks so too as he has implied as much, and that Castro would provide the better return over Baez. Hell, Castro may move to 2B or 3B.

I believe that's essentially what I posted.

BTW, the same scouts and analysts that are hyping up Bryant, are also doing the same for Russell. That should say a little something too.

Well that's good, because there are only so many "scouts and analysts" and I know quite a few scouts. I also know that I personally like Russell a lot. Then again, I already said that in my post you quoted.

Compare Castro to whomever you want like Jeter and such like SilenceS did. The difference is, I have never heard of the Yankees wanting to deal their SS, and if Castro was all that, neither would the Cubs.

And the Yankees won how many WS?

Again, it's just my opinion, but I hear it a lot from non-Cubs fans too about Castro so........:dunno:

Most fans of other teams, don't watch other teams enough to have a solid, educated opinion on other teams' players.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

I could give you her phone number, or email if you wanted......

Do you think she'd be interested though? I love Euro women (I lived in Finland for 18 months) but they are very fickle.

 

[CSF77]

Good game.

Stewie trade: Why do we care about 2 players that are not Cubs. So Cubs lost the trade. 'check' Cubs had no MLB tested 3B at that point. They were not going to retain A-Ram.

I didn't like that they let Flair go via rule V more. The problem is they got in and did not have the time to do a proper analyst of the talent that they had.

Regardless right now neither player matters and to be honest those shitty years netted so legit talent via trade and the draft. So at the end of the day who cares about non Cub players? I don't. What I care about is this team and winning some games. F-ex err could have been's

 

[Ari Bear]

Castro won't be the SS when the Cubs win the WS, imo, I'd bet $500 right now!

I mite bet on him being moved to 2B..

 

[beckdawg]

Good grief, man. Here's the way it works. Some of us didn't like the trade in the first place. Did you think there would be an Epstein article where Epstein claimed he didn't like the trade when he was making the trade? :facepalm:

We didn't like the trade at the time. Epstein didn't like the trade in hindsight. You are continuing to defend the logic of the trade, even after epstein stated "we fell into some familiar traps."

And you're apparently still complaining about a 3 year old trade in which no significant player was lost. Put it this way, let's say Colorado gave the cubs a do over and said they'd give DJ for Corey Black. Do you make that trade today knowing full well how DJ turned out? Because I'd frankly be shocked if you'd give up anything for DJ today and in prospect terms Corey Black is very little. The reason I defended the logic at the time is because some are acting like DJ is some sort of significant player and he's not. The logic seems to be "Oh I hated the trade then and look how it turned out!"

My point was it's an irrelevant trade from the cubs stand point even in hindsight. I put it akin to the trade they made for Ruggiano last year. They need a different player than they had. Did Colorado arguably get more value out of the trade and as such "won" it? Sure, I don't think anything I've said contradicts that thought process. On the other hand, has it set back the cubs literally at all? I think you'd be hard pressed to argue it has. So, what's the point in bringing up a 3 year old trade as though it even matters? The 2012 cubs needed a 3B. They took a shot on a guy who was a well regarded prospect in the past but obviously had some question which is why he was available in the first place. The trade didn't work out. That's baseball. They have made the same sort of trade a number of times with Mike Olt and others, Jake Arrieta and Strop, Chris Volstad, Travis Wood, Vizcaino....etc. Some have worked out spectacularly. Others haven't. I just see no reason to still be upset over the trade. If DJ had turned into Dustin Pedroia then sure preach from the high heavens about how that was such a shit trade but we're really going to bring up a 3 year old trade over someone who's been worth 2 fWAR over 1302 PAs?

 

[SilenceS]

Lemahieu can play third