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I literally cringe thinking about the offensive cast before this year and ESPECIALLY pre-marshall. Coaching included.
I literally cringe thinking about the offensive cast before this year and ESPECIALLY pre-marshall. Coaching included.
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If Cutler is going to get hurt again, id rather find out Sunday than next season when he gets hurt in the first game after he was signed to a nice contract.
In fact, Id rather find out this season who we want to lead the team in the future, than to play it safe and play McCown and make the playoffs only to get bumped in the first playoff game.
The future of the team is more important to me than one playoff game that we lose. Thats why I want to see Cutler run this offense again before the season is over, and this game seems like the right one
In fact, Id rather find out this season who we want to lead the team in the future, than to play it safe and play McCown and make the playoffs only to get bumped in the first playoff game.
The future of the team is more important to me than one playoff game that we lose. Thats why I want to see Cutler run this offense again before the season is over, and this game seems like the right one
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In all seriousness you could prob find a line on this somewhere and get decent odds.
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Wait, who thinks McCown is a star? McCown has learned the offense in the same amount of time as Cutler and has looked better within the system than Cutler. That would be telling that Cutler doesn't get the system, or doesn't care and continues playing the same old way. I'd like to think with a full season, Cutler would have looked better, gotten the INTs under control... Going into the Eagles game in 2010 Cutler was sitting at 12 TD and 10 INT. He finished with 23/15 showing improvement within Martz system. However, as has been my main gripe with Cutler, he just can't stay on the field, which makes me want to move forward and luck into someone who isn't injury prone.
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Jay is lucky that this game is in cleveland. If he drops a duece on the field in Chicago, the boo birds would destroy him.
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What IF we let Cutler go and stick with Josh and Josh goes back to being old and unproductive? And Jay lands on a new team where he goes on to have multiple pro bowl seasons?
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IMO, this has the chance to be no win situation for Trestman. If he plays McCown, and he struggles, people will question why Cutler didn't play if healthy. If Cutler struggles why play him when McCown was playing so good. The only win here is if Cutler plays well now.
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We've seen an equal number of games from Josh McCown in which he was equally well protected, and McCown has performed better in those games.
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Seems reasonable as long as you hold Cutler accountable. If he plays great, awesome, he should be re-signed to a sensible deal. But if he plays worse than McCown over the course of the next three games then the excuses need to stop.
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When a player actually gets "destroyed" from boo birds, this point will be relevant.
Nope. Still waiting.
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I thought I told you to stop being rational.
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Trestman knows it, Emery knows it, anyone with at least a half functioning brain knows it. Cutler is the better athelete with the better chance to succeed in the long run. McCown played well above his normal ceiling.
At this point I am willing to let the formost offensive expert this football town has ever seen to make the right call on something of this magnitude.
At this point I am willing to let the formost offensive expert this football town has ever seen to make the right call on something of this magnitude.
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Goddamit, what did I say!?
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McCown has had 9 different offensive coordinators in his career.
McCown has had the likes of Marcell Shipp, Freddie Jones, Justin Fargas, Ronald Curry.
In 1 year, Trestman has McCown playing the position the best he has ever played. He's had Jay for the same amount of time (actually longer if you count the time he worked with him pre-draft - which everyone was found of saying) and Jay is STILL PRONE to making the same mistakes.
How many more excuses must be made for poor Jay?
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If he started McCown Trestman could say he doesn't feel comfortable until Jay gets more practice reps in. I don't believe that would be hard to explain. Especially since he could take McCown out in favor of Cutler if McCown struggled.
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This statement makes it sound as if Cutler hasn't played all season and is coming in to play now. Cutler has played with the same supporting cast that McCown has this season and has played worse in just about every one of those games...so this logic is starting to fail miserably.
If you have two QBs playing in the same system with the same protection and the same talent and one of those QBs is outperforming the other QB, why should we expect the other one to suddenly become the better QB of the two given the eight game body of work we've seen from Cutler?
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Agree completely
Its interesting cause its almost the same thing I posted earlier, but you responded with this:
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Good points, fellas.
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against far worse defenses. Not to mention he HAS made quite a few shaky throws that he has been bailed out on. Why is that being blatantly ignored?
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Even as a McCown supporter, in the situation, I would have to agree that would be a risk. Though the Bears need to weigh that with cost in salary cap and the reward that may or may not be gained. If Bears drop Cutler and run with McCown while raising a draft QB, McCown could regress. On the other hand, they keep Cutler and they can't afford to address the defense.
Either way you cut it Cutler hasn't proven that he is as good as everyone wants him to be. If Trest can transform a McCown into a Gannon within this offense, why isn't Cutler a Manning. If Cutler can't perform at the top in this offense, he isn't going anywhere else that has a supporting cast better than this one.
P.S. Could you imagine Manning in this offense. That would be ridiculous.