It's official: Cutler is starting

[BearsFan51]

Trestman knows it, Emery knows it, anyone with at least a half functioning brain knows it. Cutler is the better athelete with the better chance to succeed in the long run. McCown played well above his normal ceiling.

At this point I am willing to let the formost offensive expert this football town has ever seen to make the right call on something of this magnitude.

Cutler doesn't have a better chance to succeed, he should be succeeding. You either succeed or you don't and Cutler hasn't performed at the level he was supposed to have when the Bears traded him. He's not playing better football in the same set of circumstances than the 34-year-old journeyman QB. But now we're somehow supposed to believe that the eight games Cutler has already played in, in which he's played worse than McCown, that NOW suddenly these last three games he'll play better than McCown, yeah that sounds so logical.

 

[EDUB316]

Even as a McCown supporter, in the situation, I would have to agree that would be a risk. Though the Bears need to weigh that with cost in salary cap and the reward that may or may not be gained. If Bears drop Cutler and run with McCown will raising a draft QB, McCown could regress. On the other hand, they keep Cutler and they can't afford to address the defense.

Either way you cut it Cutler hasn't proven that he is as good as everyone wants him to be. If Trest can transform a McCown into a Gannon within this offense, why isn't Cutler a Manning. If Cutler can't perform at the top in this offense, he isn't going anywhere else that has a supporting cast better than this one.

P.S. Could you imagine Manning in this offense. That would be ridiculous.

They can still adress the D while keeping cutler. They won't have to pay him a ton more than what he is making now and there is A LOT of money off the books. Plus, we won't have to invest a draft pick on a QB who may ride the bench for a year and has a higher bust potential than a defensive player.

 

[EDUB316]

Cutler doesn't have a better chance to succeed, he should be succeeding. You either succeed or you don't and Cutler hasn't performed at the level he was supposed to have when the Bears traded him. He's not playing better football in the same set of circumstances than the 34-year-old journeyman QB. But now we're somehow supposed to believe that the eight games Cutler has already played in, in which he's played worse than McCown, that NOW suddenly these last three games he'll play better than McCown, yeah that sounds so logical.

He played less than a quarter in one game and played on one leg in the other (fairly decently I might add). McCown has played against cupcake defenses and has gotten away with more than Cutler in terms of the outcome of poor decisions. All facts. Sorry.

 

[BearsFan51]

against far worse defenses. Not to mention he HAS made quite a few shaky throws that he has been bailed out on. Why is that being blatantly ignored?

Far worse defenses? The difference in the defensive ratings is negligible... Cutler has faced the 17th rated best defenses on average while McCown has faced the 22nd rated defenses on average. By the end of the weekend those numbers could be flipped when all of those teams that each player has faced has played yet another game.

 

[BearsFan51]

What IF we let Cutler go and stick with Josh and Josh goes back to being old and unproductive? And Jay lands on a new team where he goes on to have multiple pro bowl seasons?

The good news is that's not going to happen, because Cutler is not going to go anywhere that has a better set of circumstances for him to perform better than he has right now. Find me two better WRs, a better RB and a better TE than the players Cutler has right now.

 

[modo]

Cutler doesn't have a better chance to succeed, he should be succeeding. You either succeed or you don't and Cutler hasn't performed at the level he was supposed to have when the Bears traded him. He's not playing better football in the same set of circumstances than the 34-year-old journeyman QB. But now we're somehow supposed to believe that the eight games Cutler has already played in, in which he's played worse than McCown, that NOW suddenly these last three games he'll play better than McCown, yeah that sounds so logical.

So you're saying Trestman is putting Cutler in because there is less chance to succeed? Trestman has already said Cutler's abilities allow him to do more things with the offense......So, I'll agree with Trestman's appraisal and not yours.

 

[EDUB316]

Far worse defenses? The difference in the defensive ratings is negligible... Cutler has faced the 17th rated best defenses on average while McCown has faced the 22nd rated defenses on average. By the end of the weekend those numbers could be flipped when all of those teams that each player has faced has played yet another game.

That "argument" shows a lack of IQ. Cutler has played 8 games, right? One game he played less than a quarter, another he played VERY injured (on a torn groin AND high ankle sprain?). Of the other 6 games, 3 came against top 10 defenses and another vs the 12th. The best defense McCown played against was Baltimore, which he didn't light up and Detroit, which he came in after Cutler got removed. "averaging" defensive rankings is so unbelievably stupid. When Cutler has played 3 (going to be 4) times as many top 10 defenses.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

against far worse defenses.

Shitty argument as those numbers can change from week to week.

 

[botfly10]

 

[Jester]

Shitty argument as those numbers can change from week to week.

No, it's the truth. Relax, it's not an argument lmao. So hostile !

 

[EDUB316]

The good news is that's not going to happen, because Cutler is not going to go anywhere that has a better set of circumstances for him to perform better than he has right now. Find me two better WRs, a better RB and a better TE than the players Cutler has right now.

Cutler hasn't had much of a chance to continue playing with the current situation, so how the hell is anoyone going to know for sure? Sure as hell not going to be found out be forcing him on the bench for the sake of a career scrub on a non-SB contending team.

 

[EDUB316]

Shitty argument as those numbers can change from week to week.

It isn't week 2. It's week 15. The rankings that we see now are as true as they are going to get and actually show the cream of the crop. Common sense.

 

[botfly10]

edub, wtf is in your sig?

 

[EDUB316]

he def has trisomy 21

 

[EDUB316]

edub, wtf is in your sig?

he don't look familiar?

 

[Dejo]

Starting Cutler is the RIGHT Decision

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...osh-mccown-right-for-bears-now-and-for-future

Jay Cutler over Josh McCown right for Bears, now and long term

Adam Schein
NFL Media columnist
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Jay Cutler must be healthy. The ankle and groin must have checked out. He worked out for the coaches and medical staff, and he must have passed the tests. Because on Thursday, Marc Trestman announced Cutler will start for the Chicago Bears in Week 15.

This was a no-brainer, a big win for Trestman, the Bears, sanity and solid logic.

More in link...

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Cutler hasn't had much of a chance to continue playing with the current situation, so how the hell is anoyone going to know for sure? Sure as hell not going to be found out be forcing him on the bench for the sake of a career scrub on a non-SB contending team.

A career scrub who is playing the best football of his career, while learning a new offense for the 9th time in his career. The same amount of time learning this new one as Jay Cutler.

 

[JoSeCuERvO]

Cutler doesn't have a better chance to succeed, he should be succeeding. You either succeed or you don't and Cutler hasn't performed at the level he was supposed to have when the Bears traded him. He's not playing better football in the same set of circumstances than the 34-year-old journeyman QB. But now we're somehow supposed to believe that the eight games Cutler has already played in, in which he's played worse than McCown, that NOW suddenly these last three games he'll play better than McCown, yeah that sounds so logical.

Cutler was on pace to put up the best numbers of his career! Not sure what you are talking about or trying to make up.. Its the first year of a new good offense and it was only going to get better. The other 10 playeres with Josh are also getting better in this new system.... Cutler was 4-3 exlcuding the Washington game and McCown is 3-3 excluding the Lions game so for you to say he has outplayed cutler is BULLSHIT!

 

[bearmick]

Well, the more games of this nightmare and it'll all be over. In the event that he starts and finishes all three, I guarantee there will be at least, at LEAST one multi-turnover performance. I'm not expecting Josh McCown numbers out of the guy as far as TD-INT goes but he better not screw this up badly.

 

[botfly10]

Is that someone from this board or some shit? Cause thats creepy.