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Was a true statement long before the ST games started. They play in a bad division.

FG projected 2018 wins by division:

AL East - 427
AL Central - 380
AL West - 423
NL East - 382
NL Central - 410
NL West - 409
 

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Was a true statement long before the ST games started. They play in a bad division.

I disagree strongly. Every team in the Division got stronger but Pittsburgh this offseason, and if you buy into the Pirates youth movement they might not have gotten that much worse either (I don't quite buy that but it's out there). Milwaukee will be better than they were last year, St. Louis is better with the addition of Ozuna and the Reds made some solid additions to their bullpen and already have a solid lineup. Depending on how their young starters look I might pick them to win 75-78 games. The AL West is a terrible division, the NL East is a probably a terrible division barring some huge strides from Atlanta and Philly (which could happen) but outside of those almost every division is competitive this year. You're selling the Nl central short.
 

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FG projected 2018 wins by division:

AL East - 427
AL Central - 380
AL West - 423
NL East - 382
NL Central - 410
NL West - 409

Yep, bad division. The NL West is better and more competitive.
 

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I disagree strongly. Every team in the Division got stronger but Pittsburgh this offseason, and if you buy into the Pirates youth movement they might not have gotten that much worse either (I don't quite buy that but it's out there). Milwaukee will be better than they were last year, St. Louis is better with the addition of Ozuna and the Reds made some solid additions to their bullpen and already have a solid lineup. Depending on how their young starters look I might pick them to win 75-78 games. The AL West is a terrible division, the NL East is a probably a terrible division barring some huge strides from Atlanta and Philly (which could happen) but outside of those almost every division is competitive this year. You're selling the Nl central short.

I completely disagree with you. Milwaukee won't have a better record neither will St. Louis. The Reds are still a few years away and yes, I think the Pirates will finish dead last. This division was wrapped up before the last out was made in the WS. And the Cubs got a lot better IMO.

It's the weakest NL division. Time will tell.
 

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Yep, bad division. The NL West is better and more competitive.

A in division win or loss still counts as a Division win.

The difference is out of division games. So the lower the number means the weaker the division.

So if you see it differently let us know

As I see it the NLC is not as weak as suggested.
 

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A in division win or loss still counts as a Division win.

The difference is out of division games. So the lower the number means the weaker the division.

So if you see it differently let us know

As I see it the NLC is not as weak as suggested.

As I said, time will tell
 

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I completely disagree with you. Milwaukee won't have a better record neither will St. Louis. The Reds are still a few years away and yes, I think the Pirates will finish dead last. This division was wrapped up before the last out was made in the WS. And the Cubs got a lot better IMO.

It's the weakest NL division. Time will tell.

NLE: NYM Can swing it either way. Their win total can swing +-20 depending on their rotation health. Cubs and Nats are a wash. Philly is a fringe team. If they decide to spend on SP they could push 90 wins (if lucky) right now they are 80 wins.

So top 3 NLC/NLE: Cubs-Nats (wash). Cards-Mets: Cards by 0-20 wins depending on Mets SP. Mil-Phils: Milwaukee by 10 at least. MIA should be a 62 win team. Them and Pitt are a wash.

That leaves the Braves and the Reds. Braves I feel are pretty fringe. .500 team. Reds are a 70 win team

So it really depends on the Mets. The Mets have to be in the WC scenario with the Cards and Mil to even concider them equal to the central.
 

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NLW: Dodgers Azl and Col should all be over .500. SFG I cant see them back to back bad. SDP is a bad team. Over all they are the strongest Division. But seeing the loss of Martinez in Azl It pushes them back some. Maybe near Mil. But that slack should be picked up by SFG’s improvement.

I honestly feel this division will be a dog fight and they will roll over other division teams while trading wins with each other.
 

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Francisco Lindor auditioning for the cubs with his defense in first inning..
Lol

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Game isn't on tv down south. What did he do?
He made 2 good defensive plays..

Threw out Happ at home on a relay throw and made a nice diving stop in hole and threw out LaStella at first

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Schwarber suddenly hitting .333/.478/.556 this spring. 8 k's in 23 PAs is higher than you'd like to see(34.7% k rate) but 5 walks in 23 PAs is a silly 21.7% walk rate. His numbers in general are pretty silly because of the 18 ABs he's had he has 8 k's 6 hits or 4 balls in play that have recorded outs. I'd expect the K rate to come down some but if he's in that .270-.280 BA range he's going to be a big force.
 

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Schwarber suddenly hitting .333/.478/.556 this spring. 8 k's in 23 PAs is higher than you'd like to see(34.7% k rate) but 5 walks in 23 PAs is a silly 21.7% walk rate. His numbers in general are pretty silly because of the 18 ABs he's had he has 8 k's 6 hits or 4 balls in play that have recorded outs. I'd expect the K rate to come down some but if he's in that .270-.280 BA range he's going to be a big force.
If he can be a .270 + hitter, id actually like him in the 2 hole with Bryant protecting him and Rizzo 4th...

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If he can be a .270 + hitter, id actually like him in the 2 hole with Bryant protecting him and Rizzo 4th...

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Didnt we learn last year that Schwarber doesnt perform well in a pressure position at the top of the order? He's a 5,6,7 hitter
 

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Didnt we learn last year that Schwarber doesnt perform well in a pressure position at the top of the order? He's a 5,6,7 hitter

FWIW Schwarber hitting out of the 2 hole is a career .223/.342/.485 hitter over 325 PAs though I would caution his babip there is .239. Batting average is fairly garbage but the only spot he's hit better in terms of OPS is 5th where he has hit .273/.368/.667 over 114 PAs with a much higher .296 babip. He's got a decent average/obp out of the 6 hole as well though it's a pretty small 52 PA sample at .292/.346/.479. In terms of what I think likely matters for him, his k rate in the 2 hole is 27.7%, its 29.8% in the 5 hole and 40.4% in the 6 hole. In terms of walk rate, he's at 13.8% in the 2 hole and 11.4% in the 5 hole.

So if one were inclined you could make the case that he's a slugger in the 5 hole and more of a complete hitter in the 2 hole. If for instance you add 47 points in difference to his batting average to compensate for the BABIP difference he would be looking at something like a .270/.389/.532 line. More over the 2 hole by far is the position in the order where Maddon has played him the most. He has 3x the number of PAs there compared to the 5 hole and 7x the number of PAs in the 6 hole.

If you disagree with Maddon that's fine but I think it's fairly likely we will see him in the 2 hole. Also, I would suggest that from a statistical standpoint if he can hit for average you want him there anyways because he walks more than any other cubs hitter excluding Zobrist. Since 2015 top cubs are Zobrist at 13.3%, Fowler at 13.1%, Coghlan at 12.7%, Schwarber at 12.6%, Montero at 12.3%, Bryant at 12.3% and RIzzo at 11.8%.
 

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Didnt we learn last year that Schwarber doesnt perform well in a pressure position at the top of the order? He's a 5,6,7 hitter

If there's one thing Schwarber's postseason performances have taught us, it's that he doesn't perform well in pressure situations!
 

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