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I guess I'm confused....when Theo Baseball says the Cubs goal every year is to win a World Series, and every season is sacred, we're supposed to take that literally?
Jeff Samardzija and Jason Hammel traded to Oakland Athletics for Addison Russell plus
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Frankly this argument irks me on a number of levels since we are using terms that I don't think we all agree on the meaning. This is a handy guide that I think gives a decent definitions of the terms and would allow for an actual debate to occur. http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/8/7/3226335/defining-1-2-3-4-5-starters
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And this has what to do with what?
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The last 6 post state things that were never said. Reading comprehension must be lacking on the Southside.
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Taking statements GMs make literally, or not.
Just saying, you seem to firmly believe in Cashman's statements in regards to Tanaka.
I'm more outraged/appalled that the Cubs have considered the past two seasons sacred.
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LMAO, yes. I think people have a problem understanding the definition of ceiling and present performance.
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That pretty much describes Shark to a T.
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If we accept those definitions he has the tools to be a 2. Whether he becomes that or not is frankly open to debate, but he certainly has two plus pitches right now.
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I see a lot of shark in 3-4-5 category, not the 1-2.
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So, you agree that he is a 3 present time but you dont think his ceiling is any higher.
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Did you actually read what I wrote?
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He can be a 2 on the Cubs...but I don't think Shark is a 2 on a playoff contending team. JMO.
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But you see Tanaka who hasnt thrown a pitch in the majors much more?
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Pretty much, I see him as a 3 on a playoff caliber team. The lower Shark is in a rotation, the better the team will be.
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Nope. I'll defer to the scouts who see him as a 2.
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Well, a good number of scouts and people disagree but to each their own.
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This is what I don't think you understand. These terms are not team dependent. It isn't about where they slot on a particular team's rotation. If you put Felix Hernadez on the Dodgers it doesn't make him a 2. Look I can accept that Samardzija's results will never match his stuff. That he will be a guy who consistently underperforms his peripherals. But there are the tools to be a front of the rotation starter there, and that is why quite a few teams have called the Cubs in regards to Shark.
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He has a ceiling of a 2. They think he is a 3 right now. He is not Yu Darvish or thought of as Yu Darvish.
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please back yourself up.
he is not a 2 nor does he have the ceiling of a 2 nor does he have the stuff to be a 2 on a contending team. stop sipping the fucking kool aid. he looks better because he is on the cubs. fact.
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they called for a back end of the rotation innings eater!!!!!!!! my god dude.