Jeff Samardzija and Jason Hammel traded to Oakland Athletics for Addison Russell plus

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Bruce Levine ‏@MLBBruceLevine 1h

Let me be clear ,Theo never mentioned any contract figure . Another source has indicted the Cub offer is higher than 5 yrs $55. Mil. (for Shark)

 

[beckdawg]

Bruce Levine ‏@MLBBruceLevine 1h

Let me be clear ,Theo never mentioned any contract figure . Another source has indicted the Cub offer is higher than 5 yrs $55. Mil. (for Shark)

$11-12 mil/year i'd be fine with them resigning him but I'm not sure I see that getting things done. I'd expect at least $15 mil/year is where he'd want to be probably more.

 

[beckdawg]

Could the Padres be a match for Jeff Samardzija? One source says that the Padres believe they can compete for the wild card in the next two seasons and they may be looking to add to their rotation. What's more, it isn't hard to imagine Samardzija putting up some very good numbers in San Diego, where some of his mistakes up in the zone can be forgiven. So even if they can't re-sign him, they could always trade him and recoup some value before he hits free agency. As for what the Padres could offer up, there are obvious connections, from former Red Sox picks RHP Casey Kelly and OF Rey Fuentes to the Hoyer/McLeod pick of 2B Corey Spangenberg. The top pitching prospect in that system right now is LHP Max Fried, whom the Cubs liked very much prior to the 2012 draft. Had Almora been picked, Fried would probably have gotten strong consideration. Top prospects RHPs Matt Wisler, Joe Ross, and Burch Smith, as well as C Austin Hedges were also picked by the Hoyer/McLeod team, though it's difficult to imagine Hedges being made available. There's certainly a lot of potential here to match up on a deal, especially since the front office will have more information on these players and perhaps mitigate some of the risk when trading for prospects.

From cubs den.

 

[WindyCity]

@MLBBruceLevine: Atlanta and Yankees join the group of teams interested in Jeff Samardzija.

The Braves interest me.

 

[beckdawg]

Joel Sherman of the New York Post spoke with one executive whose team is interested in Samardzija and heard that the Cubs are definitely discussing Samardzija trades but the asking price is very high (Twitter link). That executive said the Cubs will either find a team to meet that asking price or simply keep Samardzija and try again in July.

That's sort of reassuring.

 

[brett05]

^ Which in essence I have been saying all along. the Cubs have overvalued Jeff and now it's time for Jeff to pitch well to increase his value.

 

[CSF77]

@MLBBruceLevine: Atlanta and Yankees join the group of teams interested in Jeff Samardzija.

The Braves interest me.

Yanks have nothing worth discussing in talent.

7 of the Braves top prospects are pitchers. I would want 2 pitchers in their top 20 for him. 1 for 1 is stupid. Proven for a lottery pick is plain dumb.

 

[SilenceS]

^ Which in essence I have been saying all along. the Cubs have overvalued Jeff and now it's time for Jeff to pitch well to increase his value.

 

[beckdawg]

Barring some major break later tonight, let's cap off a quiet day with a depressing tweet, this one courtesy of Jon Heyman: cubs brass meeting with jeff samardzija's agents wednesday. offer isn't necessarily expected, extension unlikely anyway. (JOHN) Some industry speculation that Samardzija may be traded by the end of the day tomorrow. The meeting could be a courtesy to inform him of the probability or perhaps they will give him one more opportunity to take their latest offer. There are still 4 to 5 teams still involved in Samardzija talks. This is not to say a deal is imminent or close, but there is a general sense that talks are fluid and active. Sadahev Sharma also spoke to a source who thinks Samardzija gets moved, but he also spoke to one that thinks nothing is doing. So there you have it.

I'm getting about as sick on this he's sure to be traded/not being traded stuff as the lebron decision.

 

[waldo7239117]

Tom Loxas says the meeting isn't about extension. The only thing I can think of a possible trade soon.

 

[waldo7239117]

^ Which in essence I have been saying all along. the Cubs have overvalued Jeff and now it's time for Jeff to pitch well to increase his value.

No. The Cubs are doing right. Why trade him low when he still has 2 years left? The A's got a good deal for an injury prone player.

 

[brett05]

No. The Cubs are doing right. Why trade him low when he still has 2 years left? The A's got a good deal for an injury prone player.

Who showed when not hurt he pitches well. like I said, this board and possibly the Cubs FO overvalued Shark. Its time he takes the next step w the Cubs in development. If he doesn't the trade value drops faster than a sinking ship.

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[patg006]

No. The Cubs are doing right. Why trade him low when he still has 2 years left? The A's got a good deal for an injury prone player.

I hope you aren't referring to Brett Anderson for Drew Pomeranz? Dude with a lifetime 5.2 ERA and 1.5 WHIP. Oh yeah, steal of a deal for the A's.

They traded a once good turd and cash for 2 turds. I fail to see how the A's got the better of the deal.

THen I remembered who's idea this was......

Somewhere, Chris J read this and is thinking 'anything you can do I can do better!'

So I guess I'll wait for the his even more intelligent, insightful response.

 

[Jntg4]

I hope you aren't referring to Brett Anderson for Drew Pomeranz? Dude with a lifetime 5.2 ERA and 1.5 WHIP. Oh yeah, steal of a deal for the A's.

They traded a once good turd and cash for 2 turds. I fail to see how the A's got the better of the deal.

THen I remembered who's idea this was......

Somewhere, Chris J read this and is thinking 'anything you can do I can do better!'

So I guess I'll wait for the his even more intelligent, insightful response.

Wasn't as bad as the Fister trade though, that one was utterly ridiculous.

 

[beckdawg]

The Cubs are asking for Marcus Stroman, Aaron Sanchez and a third prospect from the Blue Jays for Jeff Samardzija, Elliott reports. Anthopoulos recently said he was constantly being asked about Stroman and Sanchez, the Jays' top two pitching prospects, in possible deals.

Apparently that's the type of package the cubs are asking for.

 

[theberserkfury]

Apparently that's the type of package the cubs are asking for.

And not just that...

"'I don't know if I could quantify how far off that might be,' Blue Jays general manager Alex Anthopoulos said. 'We continue to have dialogue, so if you want to look at that as encouraging, I don't know. It's not so far out of the realm that we won't continue to have talks.'"

So apparently it isn't just crazy or insulting for the Cubs to be asking for the Jays' top two pitching prospects (and more) in exchange for Samardzija... maybe he's worth a little bit more than some people like to think.

 

[beckdawg]

And not just that...

"'I don't know if I could quantify how far off that might be,' Blue Jays general manager Alex Anthopoulos said. 'We continue to have dialogue, so if you want to look at that as encouraging, I don't know. It's not so far out of the realm that we won't continue to have talks.'"

So apparently it isn't just crazy or insulting for the Cubs to be asking for the Jays' top two pitching prospects (and more) in exchange for Samardzija... maybe he's worth a little bit more than some people like to think.

I've long since given up trying to convince those people. Personally, I want a resolution just because it's already a tired story but the cubs are going to get what they want. My assumption is some team will miss out on Tanaka and wont want to pay $18+ mil on the starter market and will get desperate. The reality is that unless you get Garza or Tanaka you're going to be giving up your first round pick anyways which should be worth one decent pitching prospect. So what's 1 good prospect and a lessor prospect for a cheap MLB starter?

 

[brett05]

And not just that...

"'I don't know if I could quantify how far off that might be,' Blue Jays general manager Alex Anthopoulos said. 'We continue to have dialogue, so if you want to look at that as encouraging, I don't know. It's not so far out of the realm that we won't continue to have talks.'"

So apparently it isn't just crazy or insulting for the Cubs to be asking for the Jays' top two pitching prospects (and more) in exchange for Samardzija... maybe he's worth a little bit more than some people like to think.

You neglect another option. That Anthopoulos is class.

 

[brett05]

I've long since given up trying to convince those people. Personally, I want a resolution just because it's already a tired story but the cubs are going to get what they want. My assumption is some team will miss out on Tanaka and wont want to pay $18+ mil on the starter market and will get desperate. The reality is that unless you get Garza or Tanaka you're going to be giving up your first round pick anyways which should be worth one decent pitching prospect. So what's 1 good prospect and a lessor prospect for a cheap MLB starter?

I'm glad that you've given up and have come back to this world. 1 Good prospect and a lessor prospect shows you've come to terms with Jeff's worth.

 

[ZAN]

We are a year too late on trading Shark to the Jays. They gave up Travis d'Arnaud and Noah Syndergaard for R.A. Dickey for crying out loud. Maybe Shark wouldn't have brought in that package...but at least 1 of the 2 wouldn't have been out of the realm.

That being said, I'd look to trade Shark for Stroman (don't think they'd give us Sanchez...) and DJ Davis.
Stroman is a power arm coming off a 50-game suspension for PEDs; but should still be a solid SP prospect who can come out of the pen (like we've seen with Carlos Martinez in STL). Davis is a defensive OF with very elite speed, but has a lot of work to do with the bat. He'd be a rich man's Campana right now, but has a lot of room to go and a high ceiling....