Joe Cowley: "It's a Sox Town."

[DewsSox79]

Like 1906... :smh:

sox vs cubs gets too much hype. it has lost its flavor the past few years.

 

[Jntg4]

sox vs cubs gets too much hype. it has lost its flavor the past few years.

I know, losing World Series pisses me off though...

 

[DewsSox79]

I know, losing World Series pisses me off though...

i dont think i could handle a sox/cubs ws. let alone if we lost to the cubs.

 

[Jntg4]

i dont think i could handle a sox/cubs ws. let alone if we lost to the cubs.

Losing to the Cubs means that you are involved in the greatest moment in sports history.

 

[DewsSox79]

Losing to the Cubs means that you are involved in the greatest moment in sports history.

what makes the cubs winning a WS the greatest moment in sports history? why because they havent won one in over 100 years? that shouldnt be why it is the greatest moment in sports history.

 

[AddisonStation]

sure it is fun for the city and for the fans. but again, i dont worry if we lose games to the cubs, the only time i would worry is if it was a crosstown WS

I don't either... Just saying it is fun...

 

[DewsSox79]

I don't either... Just saying it is fun...

it is for sure.

 

[Jntg4]

what makes the cubs winning a WS the greatest moment in sports history? why because they havent won one in over 100 years? that shouldnt be why it is the greatest moment in sports history.

That and the HUGE fanbase that will get drunk.... Wrigley finally getting a championship, the Cubs being the oldest team in the MLB (The Reds claim to have been founded in 1869, which is BS. They are not the original Cincinnati Red Stockings. Though that was the name they took upon foundation, they were founded in 1882. Cubs were founded in 1870, but claim 1876 because they joined the NL that year), and because I say so.

It is really a rare occurrence to say the least.

 

[Northside_slugger]

Who really cares what Joe Cowley has to say? He's a POS sports writer, who tries to get his name out there for more then just his writing skills or knowledge of the game. He goes out and on purpose tries to start trouble to get attention of people to read his stuff. It worked for a long time, but seriously, that it still works now, is beyond my imagination.

This is the same guy who was the only sports writer to vote Derek Jeter 6th in MVP voting. He made a big stint about it and made it be known it was him who voted him so low.

He also didn't stand up for the Canadian national anthem when he covered a White Sox game in Toronto.

He has had many run-ins with forums and Sox fans on the internet. He even dissed his own fans several times.

 

[Northside_slugger]

As for the Cubs vs. White Sox topic, yes it does matter. From a personal standpoint, i don't know many people, if any, on top of my head, who even get little satisfaction from White Sox winning, because it's a "Chicago" team. I think the locations of the two teams has plenty to do with the hatred in many fans views. Cubs fans generally are the wealthier class, while White Sox for the most part are many minorities and lower class.

In NYC, the Mets and Yankees fans don't like each other, either, but many do "root" for both teams. There is a friendly competitiveness there, not a hatred towards each other. You see many fights break out at Wrigley Field between Cubs and Sox fans, and also incidents like spray painting Harry Carey's statue. Stuff you just don't see in New York. Or Los Angeles between the Dodgers and Angels.

In fact, funny this topic is mentioned, because this was a recent topic over night on the score 670. Most callers, from both sides, said there is a hatred, but, not as bad as it used to be.

 

[Captain Iago]

Fair enough. I didn't really look at who they were playing, just the fact that there were 16 tallies in the W column. I figured a win is a win, regardless of the opponent.

How is "basing the success of a season based on a cross-town rival" any different than "[finding] a moral victory in a losing season"? They look pretty much the same to me, just in that whether or not the Sox made the playoffs, at least they have the "we beat the Cubs" to fall back on.

Or am I still misunderstanding you?

I think you got me and we disagree. Finding a positive, albeit completely meaningless, in a bad season is still not basing the entire season on a pair of series. If the idiot Sox fan actually said, "Screw the central division, playoffs, and world series, I just want to beat the Cubs," prior to the season starting then you'd have something. If that happened, you'd be right--that would be basing the success of a season based on a couple of regular season series. Since it came after the fact, it's being dismissive of the real successes of a season since the Sox were dismissed from those real successes.

Also, if that happened, many of us Sox fans would politely request the address of that fan so he can receive the thrashing he deserves.

Hell, I'd take a 0-6 series vs the Cubs and a world series title every year as I imagine you would take a 0-6 vs the Sox and a world series title every year as well.

 

[Captain Iago]

Who really cares what Joe Cowley has to say? He's a POS sports writer, who tries to get his name out there for more then just his writing skills or knowledge of the game. He goes out and on purpose tries to start trouble to get attention of people to read his stuff. It worked for a long time, but seriously, that it still works now, is beyond my imagination.

This is the same guy who was the only sports writer to vote Derek Jeter 6th in MVP voting. He made a big stint about it and made it be known it was him who voted him so low.

He also didn't stand up for the Canadian national anthem when he covered a White Sox game in Toronto.

He has had many run-ins with forums and Sox fans on the internet. He even dissed his own fans several times.

:yep: ^^^ Correctamundo.

 

[DewsSox79]

joes heart is with the indians anyway. so who gives a **** what he writes.

 

[EnjoyYourTiger]

I think you got me and we disagree. Finding a positive, albeit completely meaningless, in a bad season is still not basing the entire season on a pair of series. If the idiot Sox fan actually said, "Screw the central division, playoffs, and world series, I just want to beat the Cubs," prior to the season starting then you'd have something. If that happened, you'd be right--that would be basing the success of a season based on a couple of regular season series. Since it came after the fact, it's being dismissive of the real successes of a season since the Sox were dismissed from those real successes.

Also, if that happened, many of us Sox fans would politely request the address of that fan so he can receive the thrashing he deserves.

Hell, I'd take a 0-6 series vs the Cubs and a world series title every year as I imagine you would take a 0-6 vs the Sox and a world series title every year as well.

It wasn't a "Screw the division, playoffs, world series, I just want to beat the Cubs" prior to the season starting. It was more after the post season had started. Which now makes me understand your last comment about the difference between finding some solace in a failed season versus beating a cross-town rival.

I just thought the assessment of, "at least we beat the Cubs" was asinine as an argument of who had the more successful season. Because to be frank, Cubs sucked, and the Sox held it together for all but a month and a half and then lost it. But no matter how it's looked at, it was sort of the same out come, I guess is what I'm getting at.

And, yes. I would, haha.

 

[Captain Iago]

It wasn't a "Screw the division, playoffs, world series, I just want to beat the Cubs" prior to the season starting. It was more after the post season had started. Which now makes me understand your last comment about the difference between finding some solace in a failed season versus beating a cross-town rival.

I just thought the assessment of, "at least we beat the Cubs" was asinine as an argument of who had the more successful season. Because to be frank, Cubs sucked, and the Sox held it together for all but a month and a half and then lost it. But no matter how it's looked at, it was sort of the same out come, I guess is what I'm getting at.

And, yes. I would, haha.

:yep: it is if who had the more successful season is the argument in question.

 

[nickofypres]

When I first got into the Sox (2004) I thought the first couple of crosstowns were cool. Then as the years went on, I think its dumb. The Sox haven't played the Mets in inter-league since 2003, I would much rather of watched Sox-Mets last years once than Cubs-Sox twice last season. Can't they just do one a season and alternate home games?

 

[Captain Iago]

When I first got into the Sox (2004) I thought the first couple of crosstowns were cool. Then as the years went on, I think its dumb. The Sox haven't played the Mets in inter-league since 2003, I would much rather of watched Sox-Mets last years once than Cubs-Sox twice last season. Can't they just do one a season and alternate home games?

$$$

I'd do away with IL play altogether, but I understand that'll never happen.

 

[IvyPickin87]

I know a lot of sox fans really care about beating the cubs, i also know a lot of cubs fans who dont care about the games. Me i want to beat the sox asses every time, i was in Iowa City in 2005 i couldnt handle all the bandwagon fans that jumped on the sox nuts. I saw guys who were rocking cubs hats for the begining of the semester and then all the sudden they are sox fans for life. I cant stand most sox fans first it was because of the bandwagon bs now because of some of them on this site its the jealousy and complete slam job they do every chance they get.

 

[EnjoyYourTiger]

:yep: it is if who had the more successful season is the argument in question.

But it depends on your definition of what constitutes a successful season. Cubs finished 75-87 and missed the playoffs. Sox finished 88-74 and also missed the playoffs. In my opinion, both teams seasons were disappointing because neither made the postseason. Why not just say you had the better record? Why make it about doing better than a team whose six games you play against mean nothing against your AL Central standings, I guess is my question.

 

[DewsSox79]

I know a lot of sox fans really care about beating the cubs, i also know a lot of cubs fans who dont care about the games. Me i want to beat the sox asses every time, i was in Iowa City in 2005 i couldnt handle all the bandwagon fans that jumped on the sox nuts. I saw guys who were rocking cubs hats for the begining of the semester and then all the sudden they are sox fans for life. I cant stand most sox fans first it was because of the bandwagon bs now because of some of them on this site its the jealousy and complete slam job they do every chance they get.

bold 1- I love how you state that the sox fans care, but the cubs fans dont care in such a generic statement, its people you know, so it is a very very very small sample size.

bold 2- ehhh, no one is jealous of the IVY, girls, neighborhood, Wrigley, media attention unless it is a casual fan that really doesnt give a **** about the actual game. For me, Il state this again.....I wouldnt trade in the WS title that I got to experience, or any future titles for any of those above so called things we are "jealous" of.