Keto and Intermittent Fasting

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What's your guys' favorite Keto fast food option? Kinda taboo but it happens.

I love Popeyes blackened chicken strips... awesome on the go

I’d take some grilled chicken from kfc or a fat juicy burger from 5 Guys or a place like that. Some of those places even have the grass fed. I don’t even bother asking for no bun. I just throw it away.
 

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Gotta skip ketchup... or is there keto-friendly ketchup?

I would imagine ketchup is a hard one, between tomatoes and the sugar ketchup is pretty carb-y.

I'm not really a ketchup guy, but I love me some BBQ sauce, so when I was doing keto I tried a bunch of the sugar free advertised BBQ sauces, and they were all gross to forgettable. But then I realized Stubb's sauces are pretty damn low in carbs by default and I found them easy to fit into my macros. An ounce of Stubb's is 7 carbs, and for me it wasn't too hard to have a serving of it on my chicken keep it under 20.
 

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I use ketchup on sausage and, believe it or not, my avocados. Just get Hunts no sugar added. Just 1g carb per tablespoon.

Actually what I have now is Heinz No sugar added. Think Hunts has too. Used to be hard to find, no problem now. It will say No Sugar Added in big print right on the front so easy to spot.
 

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Down another 2lbs on today's weigh in.

It's working
 

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For the keto people.
 

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For the keto people.

There's literally a ton of keto channels on youtube. They show all kinds of ways to make popular carb food low carb such as pizza and bread, make fat bombs, how to make your own mayo w/olive oil or avocado oil rather than buy it with the canola oil, mug cakes, mug bread, tortillas made with almond flour or coconut flour, pancakes w/protein powder...the list is endless. I don't like making such an ordeal in preparing these things. To me, if you do all this kind of stuff, you likely have too much of an obsession with food. I like it simple. If I want meat, throw it in the pan or on the grill and it won't take long cause I like it rare. Keep a bunch of frozen bags of spinach and broccoli and when ever I want, 4 or 5 minutes to heat up and throw a half stick of Kerrygold on it. Snacks are right there to be had, reach for a bag of macadamia nuts, cut open an avocado and smush it up and add ketchup (it screams for ketchup. I really don't know how other people don't see this.) Want eggs, fry it, scramble it, hell if I already have some hard boiled I'll eat those.

The Keto and Paleo people who do this all the time make me laugh. They want to talk about eating the way man ate when he was the hunter gatherer, or get primitive with your eating habits like back in the Paleolithic era. Then they waste all this time and effort preparing this crazy shit as if it's gonna make one cum in his pants when he eats it. Damn sissy eaters.
 

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Not to argue with ya anymore, however, didn't our ancestors also eat a lot of grains and crops?
 

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Not to argue with ya anymore, however, didn't our ancestors also eat a lot of grains and crops?
I really don't know when that shit became more accessible. Just sure it wasn't GMO back then. Haha. Ever wonder why your bread and cereals need to be enriched with vitamins? It's cause they have no nutritional value on their own.

The funny thing about people who say you don't get enough healthy food on the Keto diet is, I'm thinking I likely have more servings of green vegetables daily than most high carb eaters. And I do believe an avocado a day is far superior to an apple a day. So what are Keto people missing out that's good. Consider the fact most of their high carb diets consist of pizza, donuts, bread, chips, taco bell dog food, cookies, beer and other sugary drinks. None of it is any damn good for ya anyway. You can eat an extremely low carb diet and still get to eat the most nutrient dense foods available and be vastly better off for leaving all that other stuff behind.
 

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I really don't know when that shit became more accessible. Just sure it wasn't GMO back then. Haha. Ever wonder why your bread and cereals need to be enriched with vitamins? It's cause they have no nutritional value on their own.

The funny thing about people who say you don't get enough healthy food on the Keto diet is, I'm thinking I likely have more servings of green vegetables daily than most high carb eaters. And I do believe an avocado a day is far superior to an apple a day. So what are Keto people missing out that's good. Consider the fact most of their high carb diets consist of pizza, donuts, bread, chips, taco bell dog food, cookies, beer and other sugary drinks. None of it is any damn good for ya anyway. You can eat an extremely low carb diet and still get to eat the most nutrient dense foods available and be vastly better off for leaving all that other stuff behind.

Are you telling me... Capt Crunch isn't healthy?

**** U!!!!!!!

I AM SO F****ING MAD NOW
 

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I really don't know when that shit became more accessible. Just sure it wasn't GMO back then. Haha. Ever wonder why your bread and cereals need to be enriched with vitamins? It's cause they have no nutritional value on their own.

The funny thing about people who say you don't get enough healthy food on the Keto diet is, I'm thinking I likely have more servings of green vegetables daily than most high carb eaters. And I do believe an avocado a day is far superior to an apple a day. So what are Keto people missing out that's good. Consider the fact most of their high carb diets consist of pizza, donuts, bread, chips, taco bell dog food, cookies, beer and other sugary drinks. None of it is any damn good for ya anyway. You can eat an extremely low carb diet and still get to eat the most nutrient dense foods available and be vastly better off for leaving all that other stuff behind.

You are right about most people. They eat all that stuff and it makes them fat.

The difference between you and me is I eat things like a cup of unsweetened oatmeal with my eggs at breakfast. Either a half cup of white rice or half cup of potatoes at lunch and then the same at dinner. And I will eat a serving of fruit in a day. Usually an apple or a banana. Sometimes, I will make a green smoothie with spinach, pineapple, OJ, half banana. I don't do it often though because it's a lot of sugar. The other big difference is I don't smother veggies with butter. I add a bit of salt and pepper.

So most of my carbs are minimally processed. One day a week I will do a IIFYM (if it fits your macros). Here, I get some foods that are cheat meals, however, I stay within my calorie range. It keeps me sane and I look forward to it.
 

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You are right about most people. They eat all that stuff and it makes them fat.

The difference between you and me is I eat things like a cup of unsweetened oatmeal with my eggs at breakfast. Either a half cup of white rice or half cup of potatoes at lunch and then the same at dinner. And I will eat a serving of fruit in a day. Usually an apple or a banana. Sometimes, I will make a green smoothie with spinach, pineapple, OJ, half banana. I don't do it often though because it's a lot of sugar. The other big difference is I don't smother veggies with butter. I add a bit of salt and pepper.

So most of my carbs are minimally processed. One day a week I will do a IIFYM (if it fits your macros). Here, I get some foods that are cheat meals, however, I stay within my calorie range. It keeps me sane and I look forward to it.

Apples and bananas waaaaay overrated. Extremely high in fructose. Body doesn't even digest most fructose, it just gets sent to the liver. Fructose is also what they mainly throw in with all those packaged foods and I'd be willing to bet that has a ton to do with so many people weighing a ton. Liver can only hold a small amount of fructose. It's probably the first thing to be stored as fat cause of that fact. I liked pineapple, myself, but also waaaay too much sugar. My oldest son used to drink a lot of OJ (waaaay too much sugar) and would get the worst stomach aches. Made him stop drinking it. Now he drinks barely anything but water. The stomach aches went away when the OJ did. Did you see me point out the study that said rice leads to diabetes and adding 1 helping of rice daily increases your chance of getting diabetes by 10%?

I'm not trying to make fun of you. A lot of people would tend to believe all that stuff is good for ya cause that's what all have been told for so long. Truth is sugar is poison and fructose is the worst kind.
 

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Apples and bananas waaaaay overrated. Extremely high in fructose. Body doesn't even digest most fructose, it just gets sent to the liver. Fructose is also what they mainly throw in with all those packaged foods and I'd be willing to bet that has a ton to do with so many people weighing a ton. Liver can only hold a small amount of fructose. It's probably the first thing to be stored as fat cause of that fact. I liked pineapple, myself, but also waaaay too much sugar. My oldest son used to drink a lot of OJ (waaaay too much sugar) and would get the worst stomach aches. Made him stop drinking it. Now he drinks barely anything but water. The stomach aches went away when the OJ did. Did you see me point out the study that said rice leads to diabetes and adding 1 helping of rice daily increases your chance of getting diabetes by 10%?

I'm not trying to make fun of you. A lot of people would tend to believe all that stuff is good for ya cause that's what all have been told for so long. Truth is sugar is poison and fructose is the worst kind.

The apple or banana while having sugar, also is high in fiber. Has a lot of water too to keep you full. And only around 100 calories per serving. It's a lot better than those processed sugary foods even if it is just fructose. I usually use it around my workouts, and it helps me have more energy at the gym.

A bit of rice in moderation with a good diet surrounding it is not going to lead to diabetes. And if it did, a lot of people are in a lot more trouble than me.

I believe in moderation. It works for me. If I was overweight and my approach wasn't working, I would do the keto. There is no reason to change though if what I am doing is working.
 

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The apple or banana while having sugar, also is high in fiber. Has a lot of water too to keep you full. And only around 100 calories per serving. It's a lot better than those processed sugary foods even if it is just fructose. I usually use it around my workouts, and it helps me have more energy at the gym.

A bit of rice in moderation with a good diet surrounding it is not going to lead to diabetes. And if it did, a lot of people are in a lot more trouble than me.

I believe in moderation. It works for me. If I was overweight and my approach wasn't working, I would do the keto. There is no reason to change though if what I am doing is working.
I'd agree with moderation you can calm the oncoming storm. Likely 1 serving of fruit a day ain't gonna take a toll on you. problem is a lot of the processed food people eat a lot of and a lot of the sugary drinks they drink also all have fructose so it gets overwhelming and has a real negative effect.

Not gonna look for that study again now but as I recall it was in relation to cultures that had several servings per day...just about every day.

I'm not trying to push Keto. Like I said it's not required to drop weight or keep it off. I just think it's perfect for the way the body works. When you talk about combating obesity and taking control of your hormones to do it, nothing does that as much as Keto and IF. If I felt the least bit restricted by Keto, I'd leave it now that all is good. Would be fine by me to stick with IF. That comes naturally to me. I never had big weight problems, no loose skin here or even stretch marks. I just allowed for 20 pound gains or so after summer, reasoning it would protect me from the cold. It didn't. I still got cold. But even though back then it was as if I was doing Intermittent Fasting unconsciously, I really wasn't cause while I would skip breakfast all the time and eat later, I'd have the coffee or tea or other drink with sugar and that's not IF. Now I know better. Live and learn.
 

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I'd agree with moderation you can calm the oncoming storm. Likely 1 serving of fruit a day ain't gonna take a toll on you. problem is a lot of the processed food people eat a lot of and a lot of the sugary drinks they drink also all have fructose so it gets overwhelming and has a real negative effect.

Not gonna look for that study again now but as I recall it was in relation to cultures that had several servings per day...just about every day.

I'm not trying to push Keto. Like I said it's not required to drop weight or keep it off. I just think it's perfect for the way the body works. When you talk about combating obesity and taking control of your hormones to do it, nothing does that as much as Keto and IF. If I felt the least bit restricted by Keto, I'd leave it now that all is good. Would be fine by me to stick with IF. That comes naturally to me. I never had big weight problems, no loose skin here or even stretch marks. I just allowed for 20 pound gains or so after summer, reasoning it would protect me from the cold. It didn't. I still got cold. But even though back then it was as if I was doing Intermittent Fasting unconsciously, I really wasn't cause while I would skip breakfast all the time and eat later, I'd have the coffee or tea or other drink with sugar and that's not IF. Now I know better. Live and learn.

Speaking of coffee. Once you go black, you won't go back.

You definitely have made a lot of strides and I can tell you have improved dramatically. Losing that extra fat does wonders. We may not agree on the exact same approaches, however, we both seem to have the right tools to be motivated. Cheers brother.
 

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Speaking of coffee. Once you go black, you won't go back.

You definitely have made a lot of strides and I can tell you have improved dramatically. Losing that extra fat does wonders. We may not agree on the exact same approaches, however, we both seem to have the right tools to be motivated. Cheers brother.
Yeah, black coffee can actually help people lose da fat. It actually enhances fasting.

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