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Keto and Intermittent Fasting
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Your weight in such a short period can fluctuate and go up. Mine is all over in a day or two. I can be two pounds heavier than the day or two days before, even when eating little. You'll drive yourself nuts - or lose motivation - if you weigh too frequently.
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True and I remember a time I weighed myself often and discovered I was losing 2 pounds in my sleep every night. It was weird cause it was doing the same thing every day. I'd weigh myself at the end of the night and then again in the morning and I was suddenly 2 pounds lighter after about 6 hours sleep. Don't think those scales that measure body fat are very accurate either. Your hydration level has a major impact on the reading from what I've learned.
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The best fat test out there is the underwater hydrostatic testing. That is impractical though. The calipers that use multiple skin sites is probably next best accurate but you need someone to take some of the readings for you. The single caliper is not bad and if it's a little inaccurate, atleast it's the same inaccurate everytime. So if you measure 15% and you really are 18% and then the next week you measure 14%, then you still know you improved even if you really are 17% That's what counts.
The scales and those machines where you have to hold with both hands (forget what they call them) are less accurate. Atleast though if you do it consistently, you can also tell improvement. Better than nothing.
The scales and those machines where you have to hold with both hands (forget what they call them) are less accurate. Atleast though if you do it consistently, you can also tell improvement. Better than nothing.
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Correct, and the reason to use multiple sites is you can't assume you've lost the same amount of fat in all areas of your body but that's another thing I notice with what I did, lost fat in places I never did before. It was as if fat was melting from all over.
I'm an inquisitive motha fucka. If something works, that's cool but then I want to know why it worked. So I tried to research why it was so damn easy and felt so much better to get to 175 with Keto/IF and why it was so damn hard and felt so bad getting below 200 before Keto/IF. That was one of the things I found, you tend to lose solely fat from all over the body with IF. Another thing was something referred to as your body's "set point". This is that point in weight that your body just seems to not want you to go any lower. IF is also touted as being the way to reset this "set point". It's described as a type of survival mode the body implements to ensure you have enough body fat that can be considered safe. So, what some people may think of as that plateau they just stall at, could actually be their body's set point.
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Never heard it called the set point. Only heard that in tennis. I do remember having to break a plateau before though. Happened both with weight and with strength. Carb cycling helped a lot. It reset the metabolism so I didn't have to keep dropping calories to stay in a deficit. 3 days low carbs then 1 day high. Repeat for a few weeks. Then there was the not being able to do more than 2 pull-ups or 150 or so lbs on bench. This was back in college. Eccentric training (negatives) and isometrics helped with that. Ofcourse, that was not during a calorie deficit. You are not going to get *significantly* stronger in a deficit unless you are a noobie, regaining strength you once had or on steroids.
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I think that "set point" while being real is also a lot mental.
In my opinion, there is some period in your life where it sets in. Usually late teens early twenties, and you just kind of are who you are after that.
It's not impossible to change, but your brane will usually sabotage any attempt to change it's comfortable place.
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The whole "I need to always look forward to changing because then things will be better. However, I can never actually change because I don't want to change and realize things are still the same."
It's a real thing.
It's a real thing.
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The body is a very complex thing. Science, in this advanced day and age, still doesn't know everything about it. But when things make sense, it definitely lends credence to it. And if people use their brain to realize there are better ways but they require them to get out of their comfortable place, they may just find those things, they thought were impossible, are not only possible but pretty damn easy when approached in a different manner.
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Well, I've been doing it for years now... I understand, as I said, the nature of how my weight/body fat fluctuate.
It doesn't drive me nuts because I understand what's happening.
For the last 6 weeks my weight and body fat % have been dropping steadily, I'm not worried.
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Its all a personal mind thing. The reason they say stay off the scale is because it can demoralize people if they dont lose or gain. It can lead to anorexia and other ailments. Do whatever works for you.
I will say on Keto I have noticed I wont lose any weight for a day or so and may even gain a half pound or so. Then, I wake up one morning and 3 pounds are gone. lol
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Another thing, I used to pee a lot at night. Maybe 3 or 4 times a night. Thought it could be the betes, but my blood work checked out. But, since I have been on Keto and fat adapted. I only go once, every now and then, at night to the bathroom to pee. It is making my sleep so much better.
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I notice similar trends... and I spent years trying in vain to get a diet working where I would lose weight and not be miserable/hungry.
So it really isn't demoralizing watching my weight oscillate 1-2lbs but overall continue to decrease.
I understand the sentiment... I know simpletons out there can be thrown off wanting results yesterday, but I really am in this for the long haul.
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I've looked into this too. It is commonly a pre-diabetic thing cause the water follows sugar in the body so more sugar you take in means more water and more pissing. And the other thing affecting it would be high insulin levels throughout the day. On keto, you've addressed both the problems. On any low carb diet really, gonna be retaining much less water. With insulin levels, no macronutrient affects insulin levels less than fat so a high fat/low carb diet is going to see lower insulin levels throughout the day and also will be more satiating so there's not the constant need for snacks and stuff that will also keep insulin levels high.
Since you do retain much less water on low carb diet, you have to take in more salt and electrolytes. Potassium, specifically, decreases the need for insulin.
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Glad to hear. Congrats and good luck on continued success.
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That's pretty normal. I did keto for a while, then just switched to a balanced low cal diet when I was cutting fat, had the same behavior on both. So, for anyone who's trying to drop pounds, don't sweat that shit.
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Weight stayed at 220.4 last night... my trend lately seems to be some loss, then stick for a day, then some loss, rinse and repeat.
If I break under 220 by Sunday, I will be happy.
If I break under 220 by Sunday, I will be happy.
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Do you take a bottle of whiskey to AA meetings and try to discourage them also?
You don't need to pat people here on the back, but if you're not in support, why the **** do you keep chiming in?
How sad is someone's life that they feel better making fun of people trying to improve themselves?
It really doesn't matter to us. Just curious as to how pathetic one must be.
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