NBA All-Defensive Teams Announced; Deng Makes 2nd Team

[thechosenone]

Lebron can guard Howard (any doubts about that now?)

What do you mean?

If by guarding you mean Howard having only 25-25 nights then I can guard him too.

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Nobody is better defender than Howard in the game. He was not the best this year(trading talks,injuries). LeBron and Ibaca IMO were better than him THIS YEAR. But nobody is near Howard when we are talking about defense. With Howard healthy and happy in his team there is no debate on who will take the DPOY award.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

man ibaka doesnt do nothin but block shots

lebron was worthy of DPOTY....he can shut down anybody

i'm not 100% sure he's even the best defender on his team

im not mad a chandler gettin it tho

neither am i..well deserved..it's evident how the knick's defensive dynamic completely changed with having chandler in the middle

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

The reasoning is pretty simple...

Chandler was voted DPOY by writers...the coaches vote for All-defensive teams.

Kobe consistently makes first team because he is a superstar who happens to be a good defender...all it takes when you are a superstar...ask Michael Jordan.

Lebron got more votes than Howard...because he was the best defender in the NBA. Lebron can guard Howard (any doubts about that now?), Howard cannot guard Lebron.

I agree with you on Boozer.

very debatable..he's certainly a premier defender though

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

The reasoning is pretty simple...

Chandler was voted DPOY by writers...the coaches vote for All-defensive teams.

Kobe consistently makes first team because he is a superstar who happens to be a good defender...all it takes when you are a superstar...ask Michael Jordan.

Lebron got more votes than Howard...because he was the best defender in the NBA. Lebron can guard Howard (any doubts about that now?), Howard cannot guard Lebron.

I agree with you on Boozer.

Dwight Howard is a better defensive player than LeBron James because of his prowess defending the rim and lane. Maybe if you factor in all of the games Howard missed, but (when Howard is there) nobody on the planet is a better defensive player or interior defender.

Dwight Howard is a better defensive player than LeBron James because of his prowess defending the rim and lane. Maybe if you factor in all of the games Howard missed, but (when Howard is there) nobody on the planet is a better defensive player or interior defender.

Howard can guard LeBron James when he is in the lane. He is one of the only players athletic and powerful enough not to get destroyed by James when he has a clear lane to the basket with only a center to score over/through. Dwight Howard's offense is not exactly "1990's centers" refined. Dwight doesn't have enough low-post moves or consistency in looking for his shots to be dominant. Dwight's rebounding over LeBron James would be enough for any smart coach (this doesn't include Erik Spoelstra) to make sure LeBron is never matched up with him.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Who is more likely to stop whom in this example?

A) Howard attempting to dunk over LeBron
B) LeBron attempting to dunk over Howard

 

[houheffna]

very debatable..he's certainly a premier defender though

Not debatable at all...the guy is doing it in the playoffs. He over the course of a game guards Rondo and he guards Garnett when needed. No other player in the league can do that. It really isn't a debate.

 

[houheffna]

Who is more likely to stop whom in this example?

A) Howard attempting to dunk over LeBron
B) LeBron attempting to dunk over Howard

Howard would stop Lebron from dunking...but that makes him a superior defender? I don't think so.

So Mutombo or Mourning were better defenders than Jordan?

 

[houheffna]

i'm not 100% sure he's even the best defender on his team

He is the best defender on that team by quite a sizable margin...lol...there should have been enough evidence of that in the playoffs last season.

 

[houheffna]

Dwight's rebounding over LeBron James would be enough for any smart coach (this doesn't include Erik Spoelstra) to make sure LeBron is never matched up with him.

You talk of Dwight's unfinished offensive game seemingly as an excuse for Lebron's ability to guard him from time to time, then you say this...It is a bit confusing.

So based on his ability to rebound...WHO CAN GUARD HOWARD? Kevin Love? Is that why Noah has problems with Howard? Because Howard is a better rebounder? I don't think so. Do you think Lebron should stay away from Kevin Love, Blake Griffin...hell, Dirk Nowitzki, because they have superior rebounding numbers? Doesn't make sense to me.

You and others are confusing what I mean by guarding Howard...he guards him in spurts, as he does a lot of centers who can score. He does not guard him over the course of a game, Lebron is the primary offensive player for a contending team. He has enough responsibilities...guarding centers for 40 minutes is not one of them.

 

[ChitwnRyan60452]

Seriously tho...Which one of you voted for Boozer? C'mon, I know it was one of you guys in here...

 

[RC_Skinny22]

Although I hate him personally and have no respect for his mentality:

Lebron has the body of a PF, the strenght of a C and the Speed of a G!

That´s pretty hard to handle offensively and defensively!


I think it´s way easier to score against Howard than scoring against Lebron.

Howard is known for his help defense. One on one it´s one crossover and you´re past him!

 

[FirstTimer]

Good gawd Rami is STILL Special person.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Howard would stop Lebron from dunking...but that makes him a superior defender? I don't think so.

So Mutombo or Mourning were better defenders than Jordan?

In my opinion, yes. Mutombo and Mourning were better defenders than Pippen and Jordan. And by "better" I don't mean they were better perimeter defenders obviously. But they were better interior defenders which is the most important facet of team defense.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Who is more likely to disprove whom in this example?

A) Houheffna attempting to disprove Rami
B) Rami failing to disprove Houheffna

It's not the matter of proving. This is all opinion-based. Facts can always be thrown in to support an argument but that can't magically turn an opinion into fact.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Your opinion is based on the idea that a player's value is determined by his ability to dunk over someone and to stop a player from dunking over him. What is this...NBA Jam?

Was Manute Bol a better defender than Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan, because he was a better "interior defender"?

Manute Bol isn't Hakeem Olajuwon, Bill Russell, or (who we were talking about) Dwight Howard. In my opinion, Manute Bol possessed the most important facet of individual and team defense but that doesn't mean he was anywhere near as agile and athletic as the 3 previous big men I mentioned. We can also declare Lindsay Hunter was a better defender than Dwight Howard too. It probably takes more skill to stay glued or in front of NBA perimeter scorers than it does to defend the rim and paint. Does that mean that Hunter is more valuable on defense/more deserving of a DPOY award than the likes of Dwight Howard? I don't think so, really.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

In my opinion, yes. Mutombo and Mourning were better defenders than Pippen and Jordan. And by "better" I don't mean they were better perimeter defenders obviously. But they were better interior defenders which is the most important facet of team defense.

Better than Pippen? :dunno:

 

[scottiepippen1994]

Manute Bol - Block the Ball - Bol Tending video. - YouTube

I lol'ed at that song.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Not debatable at all...the guy is doing it in the playoffs. He over the course of a game guards Rondo and he guards Garnett when needed. No other player in the league can do that. It really isn't a debate.

i think lebron's better when it comes to being able to defend versatility wise and good with help D

but wade is a better on the ball defender

it definitely is debatable lol...cmon saying who is the "best" defender is subjective on it's own..so it is inherently debatable lol

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Howard would stop Lebron from dunking...but that makes him a superior defender? I don't think so.

So Mutombo or Mourning were better defenders than Jordan?

ya i don't get that argument at all lol...the taller player and the better shot blocker wins each time..not the better defender

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Although I hate him personally and have no respect for his mentality:

Lebron has the body of a PF, the strenght of a C and the Speed of a G!

That´s pretty hard to handle offensively and defensively!


I think it´s way easier to score against Howard than scoring against Lebron.

Howard is known for his help defense. One on one it´s one crossover and you´re past him!

howard is probably one of the best interior defenders in the league...problem is he can't guard stretch big men or anything on the wing because he's too slow...he lacks quickness