Now that the season is over

[Castor76]

I'm perfectly happy with Contreras and his catching. If nothing else, the game can be called from the bench if someone thinks it's that big a problem, which I don't. I hope Ross is part of the coaching staff next year.

 

[CSF77]

Well Cole is not wrong. The Cubs led the league in errors. And it was fundamentals that ass canned them.

I see that as bad timing and he is out for himself and he doesn't want to lose value on F/A and is tossing the Cubs under the bus.

Wow. Well even though he is right it makes him into a ass.

Not good.

 

[CSF77]

I'm perfectly happy with Contreras and his catching. If nothing else, the game can be called from the bench if someone thinks it's that big a problem, which I don't. I hope Ross is part of the coaching staff next year.

I think that any ex Cubs should be avoided.

It is fan apeasment.

I want accountability.

Cole is not wrong with what he said..



Jesse Rogers
@ESPNChiCubs
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21h
Cubs going for the Triple Crown of bad in the NL:

Tied for first in errors
First in outs made on the bases
One behind for most blown saves

 

[TL1961]

I'll give you a dark horse that's currently on the staff....Mark Loretta....fits what I think theo and jed want....inexpensive analytics guy working in harmony with front office on day to day lineups and moves

Dark horse?

 

[TL1961]

1) Theo Epstein is not hiring a manager for a MLB club who has no managerial experience at any level. This is a guy who fired Renteria to go get Joe Maddon

2) “Clutch” requires sample size. Once there is enough data with rare exception there is not much of a variance between a player’s every day numbers and numbers broken out for specific situations. Specifically regarding Schwarber, for his career, his batting average with 2 outs and RISP, he has had a whopping 169 AB. Overall, he has had 206 Plate appearances in that situation, meaning his batting average is .172 in that situation. His OBP is .320. This indicates the anomalies involved with small sample sizes. No MLBer today ...over the course of a year and career ... has an OBP .150 points higher than their average.

3) If we want to look at specific Cubs hitters, the real issue is missed. The Cubs have too many of the same hitter. The Cubs are bottom of the barrel in contact rate this season. Meanwhile, they have 7 guys with 20+ HR. OTOH the Cardinals have only 3 players with 20+ HR. IOW, HR and runs scored in MLB by HR may be at record levels, but contact rate is more important.

4) Theo needs to learn something new. His FA acquisitions have been mediocre or worse overall since 2016 WS. Three years removed and the team is considerably less competitive. No one hits on all their prospects or trades, but the Cubs don’t have a single player in the lineup who can hit over .300. Theo traded that guy away in year 1 (LeMahieu).

Slightly off topic, but I can’t wait to see how pissed he is as the end of season press conference and how this isn’t going to happen, it doesn’t feel good, yadada. He made a bed that is going to take more than 1 off-season to fix.

The Cards are where they are due much more to pitching.

 

[Castor76]

I think that any ex Cubs should be avoided.

It is fan apeasment.

I want accountability.

Cole is not wrong with what he said..



Jesse Rogers
@ESPNChiCubs
·
21h
Cubs going for the Triple Crown of bad in the NL:

Tied for first in errors
First in outs made on the bases
One behind for most blown saves

So who would you think they should target to replace Maddon? Just from the mental aspect, they will need someone to lock down fundamentals.

 

[CSF77]

So who would you think they should target to replace Maddon? Just from the mental aspect, they will need someone to lock down fundamentals.

I really don't know to be honest. I don't want a ******** and tell me that every thing is ok though. Those are hard numbers that will be the deciding factor on Joe's job status.

 

[TL1961]

I think Nico is going to spend most of 2020 in AA/AAA.

I'm a fan of trading for Merrifield from KC as he slots in well for lead off and 2B. If they stay in house, Rizzo is the only option for lead off. Picking up Q's option makes sense because of money versus production.

That’s a novel idea.

Why hasn’t anyone mentioned this before. ?

 

[TL1961]

I think Nico is going to spend most of 2020 in AA/AAA.

I'm a fan of trading for Merrifield from KC as he slots in well for lead off and 2B. If they stay in house, Rizzo is the only option for lead off. Picking up Q's option makes sense because of money versus production.

“Rizzo is the only option for leadoff”.

Wow.

Just “Wow”

 

[Castor76]

“Rizzo is the only option for leadoff”.

Wow.

Just “Wow”

Man, you really told me. Post of the century from you there.

 

[TL1961]

Man, you really told me. Post of the century from you there.

If you want the Cubs to open the season with Rizzo at leadoff, I can only assume you are a Cards fan, Brewers fan or worse.

 

[Castor76]

If you want the Cubs to open the season with Rizzo at leadoff, I can only assume you are a Cards fan, Brewers fan or worse.

I never said I wanted it. I just pointed out that he's the only viable option currently on the team. Anybody else you put there is either a gamble or someone who doesn't do well there. That's part of why I suggesting some trades the Cubs could try. Nico would be a gamble. Schwarber doesn't do well. What's your objection? That Rizzo is slow?

 

[Discus fish salesman]

So you have nothing then?

Try https://legacy.baseballprospectus.com/sortable/index.php?cid=1899561

So based on that he was 67th out of 112 on blocking runs. That’s not good. That supports what I said. He was poor at blocking balls. I guess what was obvious from watching was correct then. Also his pitch framing is crap. His game calling is likely crap. He shouldn’t be catching.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Posting on a phone sucks but try this.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1177345526234267648

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1177346421424627713

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1177347166400057344

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1177351048828215297

So how exactly did he blast the cubs? He stated a bunch of facts that I don’t think anyone in the organization would disagree with. You can’t argue they were good fundamentally with all the errors and outs on the bases

 

[Realistic fan]

He has no clue if he buys into Bryant worth a 18 vertual point value system.

The numbers that I quoted in my previous post come from the website Baseball Trade Values, they are not mine. By the way, I do not agree with some of the values that they give players but most of the trades done at the deadline worked out well with their system. One trade that did not match their values, by the way, was the three way trade between the Indians, Reds, and Padres. They felt the Indians received more value in return than Trevor Bauer was worth. So much for your comment putting down the Indians and their trades.

I made my comment using the site as a reference to show my opinion that your trade offers were not fair in value for each of the teams. I agree with you that they have Bryant valued too low, but he still would not draw the package in trade that you wanted from the Padres.

Just because I did not agree with you does not mean my input did not have any value. This is a discussion board and I shared my opinion in a reasonable way. To put it in your words, "Dude, grow up!"

 

[CSF77]

The numbers that I quoted in my previous post come from the website Baseball Trade Values, they are not mine. By the way, I do not agree with some of the values that they give players but most of the trades done at the deadline worked out well with their system. One trade that did not match their values, by the way, was the three way trade between the Indians, Reds, and Padres. They felt the Indians received more value in return than Trevor Bauer was worth. So much for your comment putting down the Indians and their trades.

I made my comment using the site as a reference to show my opinion that your trade offers were not fair in value for each of the teams. I agree with you that they have Bryant valued too low, but he still would not draw the package in trade that you wanted from the Padres.

Just because I did not agree with you does not mean my input did not have any value. This is a discussion board and I shared my opinion in a reasonable way. To put it in your words, "Dude, grow up!"

I wouldn't trust a site that values a All star to 1/4 the value of a peer of his.

That is saying 1WAR (Bryant)
4 WAR Lindor

Bryant has 2 years of control.
Lindor 2 years of control

They both were at 10-12M last year.

This year:
Bryant 4.9 fWAR
Lindor : 4.3 fWAR

Compiled fWAR to date

Bryant 27.9
Lindor 27.1

So your site posting that Lindor is 4x the value on a trade is hogwash.

This is based off of fact and who came up with it must have no respect of certain players.

But at least you did say that you did disagree on some.

But Fangraphs is a far more respected site. I would invest time supporting them.

 

[Parade_Rain]

The Cards are where they are due much more to pitching.

My post was specifically about the Cubs lineup, not the aging and/or undependable pitching staff, The Cardinals issue last season was pitching and they fixed it.

 

[Parade_Rain]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1177631054993207296

This is why a guy like Girardi is at the top of the list, IMHO, and not someone who has never been a manager. This team needed a fresh voice and observing this year, they need more focus. Girardi didn’t even allow sweets or soda in the locker room. I’m fairly confident alcohol was not allowed in the Yankees club house either. Very health conscious person.

 

[CSF77]

I would welcome Joe G.

But this team has some core issues going on.

Happ has turned it on lately so IMO they need a stable spot for his bat.

Even though last night's win really is not a good thing. They are tied with Bo's and Azl at 83 wins and Phi at 80. At this point losing out could bump them up a few players and add more $ to the draft pool.

 

[DB012031]

Thinking out loud on a couple of issues:

• Torn on keeping or trading Wilson. He is arguably the best offensive catcher in the game but his framing is an issue. However, now that they are brining robo umps to the Arizona league this upcoming season, framing will soon no longer be an issue because I do believe robo umps will be in the MLB soon enough. He also badly expanded his strike zone the back half of the season. I think with his age he could bring a haul of prospects and Victor could slot back to catcher and pair him with a vet like Lucroy on a cheap deal.
  • Grandal from the Brewers would be a great pick up but he is going to cost a fortune. Those who want Cervelli remember that he has severe concussion issues.
• Schwarber is the really interesting one now.. Don't know if anyone paid attention but the last 1/3 of the season (essentially since they got Nick) he has batted .302 with a .398 OBP, That and he was finally given constant playing time as well as moved down in the order to the 4-6 slots. With how low his contract is do we sell high or give him 1 more year to see if the back half of this season was the start of something. If he keep him, would allow us to move Bryant and go after Rendon OR see about a KB for Mookie swap