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The point is: it sucks to suck. And thats Shadeur. Sorry not sorry.
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It has happened before and not only did the team not leak anything, they still won't say the name of the qb. And the guy isn't in the league anymore. But the point is, he was allowed to continue the process and bust out on his own, unlike Sanders.It's not quite that easy of an evaluation. The question becomes whether a white QB in that situation falls that far. I think he does. Pride thinks he doesn't. I didn't quite expect him to fall to day 3 so pissing people off was definitely part of it. The issue is whether they would have been as pissed off by a white QB. I think so as the issue is more at the HC, OC level who probably told their GM that they didn't want to work with him.
I'm kinda surprised it was the Browns that took him with the controversy they've already had there and another QB taken earlier. Will be fun to follow that camp.
Hard Knocks?
Really no reason to deny it happens. Pride is absolutely correct on this.
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We are all entitled to our own opinions.
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This.
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Meh, I think homicide might be worse than “my dad is a prick”
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But who has been charged with homicide and then drafted? Or even manslaughter? Or vehicular homicide? (Hint: nobody) L’ael Collins was mentioned as a person of interest in a homicide back in 2015(?) and he went from 1st round hopeful to undrafted. Telling prospective teams that were interested in drafting you to NOT draft yourself and then acting like an entitled pompous ass in interviews is probably not a good thing to get hired by an employer. I’m not an HR specialist but I have to imagine it isn’t a wise strategy.
Below is a link to how he interviewed:
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It'll be a gigantic distraction that never ends. Sanders and co. can't help themselves. They seem to live for drama a reek of entitlement.
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Last season 1st 2 picks were black QB's year before that 1st 3 QB's and 3 of the 4 top picks were black qb's. This draft made it 3 yrs in a row that a black QB was taken 1st OA. Race stopped playing a role in QB selection, not many years back but that racism dog don't hunt no mo'.
And why did SS deserve to be picked sooner? Does leadership, chemistry and coachability not factor in the evaluation? Add in the circus his dad will put on the minute his back up son doesn't get put in when a team loses a few games and I am surprised any team not look at him as a starter even considered drafting him.
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Maybe but no rational person views how SS carries himself as just confident. He is a 13-12 daddy retiring his jersey, forcing players to go to his "rap concert," telling GMs not to draft him, blaming his teammates arrogant asshat. He makes Ryan Leaf look like a glue guy.
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Don't worry about the headings on the time stamps, but Cris Carter breaks it down starting at 2:40
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Peyton, Eli, and Arch Manning , Chris and Kyle Long , Cameron Heyward and Christian McCaffery say hello
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Yeah but is non homicide worse than "I have marginal NFL skills but am as big a prick as my dad that could back up being a prick and I promise my baggage and team distractions will far outweighs any minimal benefit I can offer your team as QB2 or 3?"
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Yes, 50 years ago the NFL did not draft black quarterbacks. Partly because colleges were not producing them.
That has changed long long ago.
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What?
You mean the major conferences, right?
There were plenty being produced. However they were being switched to other positions.
50 years ago is when it started to get better.
James Harris, Joe Gillam, Marlon Briscoe (though they made in a receiver in Miami).
Before 1970 it was nearly impossible for a black qb to play qb in the NFL. The majority of them had to change positions in order to play.
So it's totally incorrect to say they weren't being produced. Some HOF inductees that you know were QBs that were drafted and moved to other positions.
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Great, now do all the sports stars kids who didn’t make it.
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I know this is a bit off topic, but does anyone ever wonder how far Johnny Manziel would have fell if the Browns were not dumb enough to draft him in the 1st round?
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The NFL can always count on the Browns to do the wrong thing. Manziel, Sanders, lol
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I'm not doubting that there is probably is some residual bias. I'm sure there are some out there that still believe stupid things like the idea that an African American isn't capable of playing QB effectively.
But I don't think what happened to Shedeur Sanders is the result of racism or the 'black quarterback' bias theory. I think, if anything, it is more the Johnny Manziel phenomena where a player is coddled and treated like he is the second coming for so long that he actually believes it and it shows up in his attitude. Frankly I think Sanders scared GMs with his lack of preparation and his arrogant behavior. That is a bad combination and it rarely plays out well in the NFL.
His dad got away with it because he was both a very good player and still aware enough to realize that he really hadn't accomplished anything when he entered the league. Once there he also realized that he would fast become a laughing stock if he let up and didn't continue to work hard at his position. Deion showed that he might be arrogant, but he wasn't stupid. I don't think Shadeur is either but being Deion Sander's son probably got him a lot more slack and accolades than Deon ever wouldn't have gotten with a working class dad.