**OFFICAIL** Bears 2024 Regular Season News & Schleisse - FTO Preferred - No ALTS! Derailing Is Discouraged!

[rawdawg]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1666510551256637440

I was hoping for Pocic in free agency but he must not have fit their profile or he was happy in Cleveland. I feel 100% better about Patrick backing up Whitehair at center than Mustipher backing up Patrick.

I’m not sure Patrick was ever 100 percent last year. Plus, Kramer is a wild card. How much has he improved and has he added some strength year over year? He has the athleticism they look for in a prospect.

Another guy I’m curious about is Kellen Diesch.
He’s long at 6’ 7” and super athletic too. It would be awesome if he’s improved enough to push Borom.

Diesch has a RAS score of 9.8.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1499950029653618691

I'm a big fan of Diesch. He looked pretty good in preseason games for the Dolphins last year. I think he's a guy that can shine with reps as the 2nd team LT in preseason and I am hopeful he can make this roster. You can still keep Borom as he has versatility to play guard as well (played some LG end of last year).

I'd still like 1 more veteran with G/T flexibility, but a bench of Diesch, Borom, Patrick, and Carter has a good mix of experience and upside, with Borom having some versatility.

 

[rawdawg]

7-9 Million isn't very much tbh.

Nope. Not a big deal at all, especially on a 1-year deal for a team that has a mountain of cap space still.

 

[Nelly]

I agree in general. I think they could use a solid pass rusher, and at $7m I'd say Ngakoue would be good value. But in general I don't think they need to spend just to spend.

I wouldn't be upset with Ngoukawe, i just think he wins us one more game at most while i'd rather see the young guys get the run. Ngoukawe will probably be available next offseason as well if we decide he would be a missing piece of a team we hope can make a deep playoff run.

 

[Nelly]

I believe America wants to see QB1 and the Bears or the Jets and their new QB (forgot his name). I'm hoping it's the Jets.

The Jets would be a more compelling story this year. The Bears would be after this year if Fields takes the next step from potential super star to actual super star.

 

[Canth]

LOL, starter money can be anywhere from somewhere around $11/$12 mil per to like $22 mil per, which he definitely won't get, so for me it depends on what the AAV of his contract is to say if he's worth #32. I wish they just traded the Balt 2nd for him and then i don't think many, including me, are as down on that trade. Seems like we both have our own opinion on what will make the trade worth it and whatever i think is right and you think is right doesn't really matter. Never said he'd sign for backup money or even implied it which would be under $10 mil or so, so not sure where you even got that from. He's definitely a starting type WR.

And the Balt 2nd probably doesn’t get the trade done. So, it’s a moot point.

We get it, you don’t like the trade. It definitely has some question marks. Literally, all we can do now is wait for the season to start and see if Claypool improves. Continuing to endlessly harp on the trade is old and annoying.

 

[dennehy]

I wouldn't be upset with Ngoukawe, i just think he wins us one more game at most while i'd rather see the young guys get the run. Ngoukawe will probably be available next offseason as well if we decide he would be a missing piece of a team we hope can make a deep playoff run.

I would like them to make the playoffs this year, or be in the hunt until the very end. Would prefer Fields get a playoff game under his belt before year 4, get a culture that expects to win. Not sure Ngakoue does that, and I truly don't like promoting him because he's an overrated player, but a decent pass rush could make this team pretty good imo.

 

[Canth]

Yep!

I personally think Poles is positioning himself to move on from both Jaylon Johnson and Darnell Mooney. Johnson isn't a ball-hawk and was drafted for a different defense than this one, and Poles went out and drafted 2 corners in this draft and one last year. Claypool is a better theoretical fit alongside DJ Moore as your outside receiver, so if he can play well, i bet Poles has his eye on extending him and letting Mooney walk in favor of Tyler Scott or someone else he might bring in as smaller, twitchier receivers are easier to replace than 6'4" physical freaks like Claypool. But to my point above, you won't know if the above would be smart moves until the end of this coming season.

Poles has publicly said he likes Mooney. But that was pre injury. I see Tyler Scott as a bit of insurance against Mooney not coming off the injury well. And just general depth

 

[rawdawg]

I wouldn't be upset with Ngoukawe, i just think he wins us one more game at most while i'd rather see the young guys get the run. Ngoukawe will probably be available next offseason as well if we decide he would be a missing piece of a team we hope can make a deep playoff run.

They should be trying to win that one game. The only young guys are Robinson and Gipson, who is a FA after this year so he may not even be in the long-term plans. The only other player on a multi-year deal is Demarcus Walker, who can also play inside. And since Ngakoue can't really be in there on run downs, that's still plenty of playing time for everyone.

Also next offseason, you should have more talent on the DL, so maybe you don't necessarily need a guy like Ngakoue. They'll potentially have the 3rd most FA dollars and a pair of 1st round picks they can spend on bookends that make a journeyman FA unnecessary.

 

[Payton!34]

I don’t get how he’s been treated since new regime came in, there’s obviously a lot more to the story that we don’t know.

I think it's probably a question of how to get the best 5 on the field.

You make sense. It just seems that they have taken advantage of Jenkins a bit but if he’s cool with it then good.

I hope Jenkins balls out so he can get paid. I absolutely love watching the kid play, he’s a monster. I think he’s been the best lineman playing, all things considered. Playing four different positions on the line in his time here.

Hope some his nastiness runs off on Braxton

 

[pdxbearsfan]

I can’t believe that they brought Davis in and then asked Jenkins to move to another position as if Davis is better than him, he’s not!

Davis is pretty weak in pass pro.

I was surprised at that as well, heard lot's of future pro bowl predictions about Jenkins at RG as the year on, they must think Jenkins can do the same at LG and only see Davis as a RG, who knows..

 

[pdxbearsfan]

Probably an unpopular opinion here, but I 100% trade a 2024 2nd for Chase Young, if he can be had for that. I think the Bears are in a good position to make a trade like this. First of all, they have the draft picks to spare potentially. Obviously, they have the 2 1sts with their own and Carolina's. But they also potentially could get a 3rd from Ian Cunningham getting a GM job, which if they pull off this trade and win some games, it's a foregone conclusion. They could give up their 2nd for Young and still potentially have 2 top 20 picks and 4 in the top 103 or so. Adding Young, along with a better season from Fields and the OL likely puts the Bears 2nd much closer to the late 40s or early 50s than the 32nd overall like they gave up for Claypool. They'd also have the flexibility to trade down from at least 1 of their 1st round picks (especially if the Carolina pick is top 10) to recoup the lost pick.

Also, the Bears are loaded with money. They have the money if Young is good enough to sign long-term, and as 24-year old, former 2nd overall pick, if he's good, he's getting highest paid DE in the league type money. Even still, the Bears can afford to franchise tag him next year with no problem and get a 2-year trial to see if Young can live up to his potential. They gave up a 2nd for Claypool to have him for a year and a half. Granted, he was much cheaper contract wise being a 2nd round pick and NOT needing a tag after 1 year, but IMO it's a no-brainer to take that gamble on a guy that's as talented as anyone that has come into the league, at one of the premier positions in the league, and at the young age of 24.

I'm ready to build a Poles statue if he can pull off a 25-year old LB, 26 year old WR1, and a 24-year old generational level DE in 1 offseason, while also still addressing the OL in a major way.

Bump this.

 

[pdxbearsfan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1666510551256637440

I was hoping for Pocic in free agency but he must not have fit their profile or he was happy in Cleveland. I feel 100% better about Patrick backing up Whitehair at center than Mustipher backing up Patrick.

I’m not sure Patrick was ever 100 percent last year. Plus, Kramer is a wild card. How much has he improved and has he added some strength year over year? He has the athleticism they look for in a prospect.

Another guy I’m curious about is Kellen Diesch.
He’s long at 6’ 7” and super athletic too. It would be awesome if he’s improved enough to push Borom.

Diesch has a RAS score of 9.8.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1499950029653618691

You don't hear much about Diesch but am also curious about Ja Tyre Carter.

 

[pdxbearsfan]

That's simply not true.

Of players switching teams:
The top paid FA QB went to the Saints
The top paid FA RB went to the Panthers
The top paid FA WR went to the Jets
The top paid FA TE went to the Panthers
The top paid FA OT went to the Broncos
The top paid FA OC went to the Giants
The top paid FA OG went to the Broncos
The top paid FA EDGE went to the Broncos
The top paid FA DL went to the SF
The top paid FA LB went to the Bears
The top paid FA CB went to the Lions
The top paid FA SA went to the Falcons

Of those positions all were the top FA paid player at their position other than C and CB with a few players electing to re-sign.
Not a single player went to a top 5 Super Bowl odds team other than Hargrave and he chose to actually leave the NFC Super Bowl representative and odds on favorite to be in next seasons SB.

The thing with all those top FA signings is we don't know how many will turn out well for the team.

 

[Bearly]

This year is a stepping stone. It doesn't make any sense to go out and sign stop-gap players to play ahead of the young guys you're trrying to develop when you're not trying to position yourself to make a run in the playoffs. This is year is going to be about figuring out who's your cornerstones and who's your pretenders, then using your cap space in 2024 (along with extra 1st round pick) to start extending your young studs and grabbing higher-end FAs to plug in your biggest gaps.

Edit to add: For example, Jaylon Johnson is pretty good but if he doesn't ball out this year and still isn't a ballhawk then do you want to re-sign him? IMO, no. Can Kmet take another step with DJ Moore in the fold? Can one or both of Gipson/Robinson book-end Walker and maybe even look like an above-average player to re-sign? Can Claypool and/or Mooney step up to be a great WR2? And above all else, can Fields be your super-star that can take the team to the superbowl? All valid questions and more. Let it play out.

This and if you get lucky, some of those show early and you're more than competitive. It's an interesting schedule. We went from one of the most difficult to easy overall and that was before Rodgers split and Vikes decided to rebuild. That could be 4 wins right there if we hit the ground. Lions look real if they don't Lions so should contend but we also have the easier out of division schedule. This is a difficult season to predict. Enough's been done to be near 500 but if things go well, the post season isn't out of the question.

 

[dabears70]

The obsession and angst over this singular move in a year that sees 16 to 17 different positional starters from just over a season ago is stupefying.

Did you also say this to @Bearly and the other 20 people that talk about this on the daily?

 

[Anytime23]

Did you also say this to @Bearly and the other 20 people that talk about this on the daily?

are you capable of replying to anyone's post without whattabouting the endless list of posters you are a victim of?

 

[iueyedoc]

The thing with all those top FA signings is we don't know how many will turn out well for the team.

Not my point. The discussion was whether top FA's shun bad teams and money for SB glory. The answer is no.

 

[iueyedoc]

That's because he wasn't worth the 32nd pick. Why would anyone derail threads about something that nobody but @remydat believes?

Thank you moron.

I thought we needed to wait until seeing his AAV after next season or his contract somehow compared to that of the 32nd pick or some other bullshit.

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

Honestly one of the more helpful moments in CCS history but i think you're spot on on the wife thing. I can smell a fat wife from 3000 miles away and pdx has been riding the sludge bus for many years!

Cc @DanielCCSBears

 

[alswank87]

The only other big acquisition I could see this team making is a pass rusher, but our inactivity in that area has me thinking that the front office is fine with what they have. Maybe they are targeting some cuts?