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LOL. They fired him in 2022 because of a draft pick in 2017. Got it.
Uh yeah.

You said yourself Pace got fired because he couldn't get the QB position right. Why couldn't he get the QB position right? Because he took his big swing on a QB that wasn't good. That's why he chased Foles and gave up too high of a draft pick and paid him too much money, which is why the team overall wasn't good enough, and in turn, was the reason he had to trade multiple picks for Fields. But basically, it all comes back to that pick he made in 2017.

Do you not understand how things work?
 

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JF has ice in his veins Dak has something else in his that causes him to choke unlike JF.
Do you get that from all of those game winning drives Fields has had? Sure did have a lot of chances.
 

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id drool if the bears drafted those 3 guys.

that said, poles will have to sign a FA lineman or two just because he can’t count on having those guys all on the board when he’s picking.

legit, if they get 1 of those 3 in the draft I’ll be happy, 2 I’d scream, and all 3 I’d cream lol
I think that if you are aiming to draft a lot of linemen, you have to limit your offseason spending on the line to not make any big signings. Instead, the focus would be on second tier guys with 2 year contracts.

I am not against that, and I wouldnt be shocked if that was the aim anyway. Poles can keep a lot of flexibility by capping FA signings to that range. He needs a tackle that can start immediately, a guard that can push Jenkins for playing time and be injury insurance, and possibly a better C option than Lucas Patrick in FA, and then if the draft falls perfectly, each of these rookies would not be given a starting spot due to their drafted slot.

Jones at LT played like he can win the LT job going forward, but given the pass blocking skills of Wright and Harrison, either of those two could reasonably push Jones to continue to improve or risk losing his job too.
 

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Do you get that from all of those game winning drives Fields has had? Sure did have a lot of chances.
Yeah, cause if Fields would've caught the ball in the endzone from Mooney, he would've beat the Commanders.

Had he just held onto the ball at the end of the Vikings game and run out of bounds, it wouldn't have ended the drive.

Had Fields just caught that throw right to his hands from St. Brown they could've tied the Dolphins at the very least.

Wait...Fields doesn't play WR. Silly rabbit.
 

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I mean, yeah I get that. But what you say only applies to moves actually made. You can't fire a GM because of who he could've drafted. That's like firing every GM because they didn't pick Brock Purdy. Pace didn't get fired because he didn't pick Mahomes. He got fired because he did pick Mitch. Nobody's losing their job over hypotheticals, especially hypotheticals that are huge risks like getting rid of well like QB for an unproven QB.

Couldn't fix what? QB? Yeah, and he needed to fix QB because he picked a bad one and then compiled it by trading valuable assets and money for Foles, to try to cover that he picked a bad one.

IDK what the hell you're talking about with 3rd and 4ths.
He was fired for putting together bad football teams from HC to last man on the practice squad, end of story. If he was fired for drafting Mitch, why in the hell would they allow him to spend 2 first round picks on another QB pick? That makes zero sense.
 

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He was fired for putting together bad football teams from HC to last man on the practice squad, end of story. If he was fired for drafting Mitch, why in the hell would they allow him to spend 2 first round picks on another QB pick? That makes zero sense.
And why were the football teams he put together bad?
 

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And why were the football teams he put together bad?
Because he was a bad fucking GM from player eval to salary cap to coaching eval that put together losing teams. If Vic stuck around and the Bears somehow continued to win football games with a good defense and shitty QB play, he would still be GM. It's about the wins and losses not how they happen. Just like in golf, they don't ask how, they just ask how many.
 

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Uh yeah.

You said yourself Pace got fired because he couldn't get the QB position right. Why couldn't he get the QB position right? Because he took his big swing on a QB that wasn't good. That's why he chased Foles and gave up too high of a draft pick and paid him too much money, which is why the team overall wasn't good enough, and in turn, was the reason he had to trade multiple picks for Fields. But basically, it all comes back to that pick he made in 2017.

Do you not understand how things work?
LOL. Like pretzels?
 

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Because he was a bad fucking GM from player eval to salary cap to coaching eval that put together losing teams. If Vic stuck around and the Bears somehow continued to win football games with a good defense and shitty QB play, he would still be GM. It's about the wins and losses not how they happen. Just like in golf, they don't ask how, they just ask how many.
I'm not trying to support Pace, because he wasn't good. But he certainly did well evaluating Montgomery, Kmet, Leno, Jenkins, Whitehair, Roquan, Trevathan, Johnson, Jackson, Robinson, Mack, Hicks, and several other players. Your hypothetical of good defense with bad QB play was never going to happen because that's not a sustainable way to win games in this century. So, it's irrelevant to even imagine.

It ALL comes back to the QB. Nagy got the job because he was around Smith and Mahomes when they played well. He would have looked like a great coach here had the QB been good. Obviously, wins and losses ultimately decide a GM's/HC's fate, but wins and losses are largely determined by the QB. It's why Mahomes didn't suffer by losing Tyreke Hill. It's why the Eagles took the next step to eliteness. It's why the Bengals went from a bad team to a Superbowl contender 2 years straight. Conversely, it's why Washington can't get anywhere. It's why the 49ers spent 3 1sts round picks for a QB because they couldn't get over the hump with a fantastic defense and mediocre QB.

Sure technically, Pace was fired because he didn't win enough. But he didn't win enough because he got the QB position wrong, and tied 4 years to Trubisky who was a failure of a draft pick.
 

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I put my mock up here with me going Bijan before JSN.

 

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Yeah, cause if Fields would've caught the ball in the endzone from Mooney, he would've beat the Commanders.

Had he just held onto the ball at the end of the Vikings game and run out of bounds, it wouldn't have ended the drive.

Had Fields just caught that throw right to his hands from St. Brown they could've tied the Dolphins at the very least.

Wait...Fields doesn't play WR. Silly rabbit.
Was there only 3 one score games? Hmmmmm
 

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Bob McGinn and Tyler Dunne are about as credible as Sigler. I won't even get into all the hit pieces both have been involved with concerning the Packers and Aaron Rodgers. Learn the history of those 2 clowns.

This is too funny.

Bob is correct that the Packers are extremely high on J-Love, but every single thing Bob McGinn said concerning Aaron and the Packers is 100% bullshit.

The added link to Florio at PFT is a nice touch and more reason to chuckle. Thanks for that.

Have a nice weekend little Bears fans! Stay tuned for real Packers news in the coming weeks. Heres a hint: If it didn't come from inside 1265 Lombardi Avenue.......
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