**OFFICAIL** Bears 2024 Regular Season News & Schleisse - FTO Preferred - No ALTS! Derailing Is Discouraged!

[redgrange19]

I dont think you receive a top player in return in this scenario. Carolina would look to have a top young QB with their alleged #1 WR and an elite pass rusher on the other side that can make splash plays on any down and distance. They are more likely in a position to send off extra picks (which, hey, take every one they got from SF).

JSN is a great option at 9 and the only reason to be skeptical on that end is any lingering thought on his past injury. A dedicated slot receiver that is worth targeting 8 times a game is a fine use of a top 10 pick. His agility will open up those short passes that Fields announced that he will work on in the offseason, which will then pull safeties down so Claypool and Mooney have chances downfield.

Good points. The thing with JSN is he just gets open, some people have a knack for making the winning plays. He reminds me of an Edelman type, which is what Fields needs. A guy who can get open in the 5 yard range, which always looks easy but it's really about mastering timing (something we hope he can do). With some familiarity there, you hope they can become a lethal slot combo like Brady-Edelman, Mahomes-Kelce, or Stafford-Kupp. Not putting them anywhere near that category, but JSN offers that type of skillset.

 

[Dejo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1632771198470836224

 

[Brownie]

Good excerpt:

Without disclosing many specifics about the process, it’s clear that Poles has enough information to think a trade could come long before the first round kicks off April 27. And making it now would require a huge price.

“Should we do this before free agency? Or should we wait?” he said. “I don’t know. That’s what I’ve communicated [to teams]. I could carry this all the way until we’re on the clock the night of the draft. But then there’s teams that want some certainty because, ‘If I need a quarterback bad, should I do that now when some of these guys, like Derek Carr, are out there?’ To me, they’ve got to go so much more above to do it now.

“I’m not greedy with it. But they’re gonna have to go above and beyond to close the door now.”

It’s crazy this year that there’s not a no-doubt quarterback in the group, yet there could be a frenzy to get to number one. Houston (picking two and 12), Indianapolis (four), Vegas (seven) and Carolina (nine), and possibly Tennessee (11) or Seattle (five), could all engage Poles aggressively. For Poles, and for the recently star-crossed Bears, this pick could plant the first-round seeds for a long-term rebuild. A much-needed one.

The really interesting thing that works in our favor is that the more the evaluations go on, the more these QB needy teams are going to become laser-focused on a specific guy to fit their system/team.

Don't be fooled by the talk of "Oh, we'll be happy to take whoever is available at 2/5, etc." .. I think that's bullshit. When you're picking Top 10 and have a chance to get the guy you envision, teams will want THAT specific guy and will end up doing what they can to get him. None of them want to be relegated to leftovers.. esp with the #1 pick for sale.

 

[Enasic]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1632771198470836224

7??

 

[gallagher]

Good points. The thing with JSN is he just gets open, some people have a knack for making the winning plays. He reminds me of an Edelman type, which is what Fields needs. A guy who can get open in the 5 yard range, which always looks easy but it's really about mastering timing (something we hope he can do). With some familiarity there, you hope they can become a lethal slot combo like Brady-Edelman, Mahomes-Kelce, or Stafford-Kupp. Not putting them anywhere near that category, but JSN offers that type of skillset.

Well the elite trait is how he will make his money as a rookie and get on the field. I really like how he takes acute angles and right angles out of his break, he makes up a step that the DB wont when they are coming out of their backpedal.

Like a TE, I want to consider for a second how he will get open at 5, 10, and 15 yards. At 5 and 10 yards, the threat to break immediately into the flat will get him open with an extra step. At 10 and 15, he can cut it back on a swift curl that gets the tough first down. That is something this team was missing last year (He would have made that cut and been open on the ESB interception against GB, and he would have been open faster at the sidelines on the last drive vs washington that would have given Fields a much better target to hit. This team is missing players that can get open in the zones that open up the other playmakers on the offense.

 

[Montucky]

I just don't see a ton of crossover between the Teams Who Want Aaron Rodgers and Teams Who Want a Rookie. A lot of the rationales for each competing option are mutually exclusive. I'm not sure the market for Rodgers really effects the market for first overall, and vice-versa.

 

[Les Grossman]

The really interesting thing that works in our favor is that the more the evaluations go on, the more these QB needy teams are going to become laser-focused on a specific guy to fit their system/team.

Don't be fooled by the talk of "Oh, we'll be happy to take whoever is available at 2/5, etc." .. I think that's bullshit. When you're picking Top 10 and have a chance to get the guy you envision, teams will want THAT specific guy and will end up doing what they can to get him. None of them want to be relegated to leftovers.. esp with the #1 pick for sale.

Yeah the QB position is too important to get sloppy seconds imo. It's the biggest decision a GM makes

 

[nc0gnet0]

This is my favorite trade partner, just for the variety of compensation a trade would return. Multiple top 100 picks this year and an extra first next year would be a sweet return.

I would also throw in Houston, Detroit, or Seattle trading into 1 sacrificing only the latter of their two first rounders this year.

For the 1,000,001 time, Detroit is not trading with the fucking Bears to move up to one. Let it go already. Trade to #3 maybe? It could happen, but I hope not.

 

[dentfan]

This is my favorite trade partner, just for the variety of compensation a trade would return. Multiple top 100 picks this year and an extra first next year would be a sweet return.

I would also throw in Houston, Detroit, or Seattle trading into 1 sacrificing only the latter of their two first rounders this year.

Would love to be able to be in a position to draft JSN, but I think he will probably go in the latter half of the first round. Cooper Kupp did run a 4.62 40. He also was drafted in the 3rd round. Kupp had 3 seasons in which he gained 1,600 yards receiving (the other season he had 1,413) JSN only had 1 season. In his other two seasons, he had 49 yards in 2020 and 45 yards in 2022. There have been a number of receivers who ran a 4.5 40. that have been successful in the NFL. But if JSN runs a 4.62 40, he's not being drafted in the first round.

Carolina is also my favorite trade destination. If they offer multiple picks and a proven pass rusher like Burns, you take it. Picking at 9, you got to go with JSN if he's there. An elite slot option is imperative in this league.

I know it's not the pick everyone wants, but I think free agency will bring some good linemen on both sides of the ball, and there's plenty of depth in this draft there, as well.

Completely with you, but I think my gut says that my surprise is anything lower than 9 overall. The first team in the draft in a position to give up picks in three straight years is Carolina.

I think we could get three firsts and possible both their seconds this year. The issue is that they’re going to probably be really good and their first rounder isn’t likely to be a top ten pick. If I had to choose between Carolina at 9 and Houston at 12, I think I prefer Houston. The issue is we may lose JSN or Bijan to Philie at 10 and Paris Johnson to the Titans at 11.

I think I’m being too overly analytical about the value of next year’s picks and should just see the quantity as a win.

 

[maxhatter]

That’s great news for the pick trade

Without question it takes Carr out of the picture in both Carolina and Tennessee.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Would Jimmy garapollo choose Vegas or Jets or maybe TB?

There was a time not long ago when the Bears would be on this list. Ah the good ole days!

 

[Dejo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1632765273903099906

 

[Discus fish salesman]

For the 1,000,001 time, Detroit is not trading with the fucking Bears to move up to one. Let it go already. Trade to #3 maybe? It could happen, but I hope not.

I hope you guys waste a pick on will levis

 

[Montucky]

For the 1,000,001 time, Detroit is not trading with the fucking Bears to move up to one. Let it go already. Trade to #3 maybe? It could happen, but I hope not.

This I agree with. What I don't understand is why you think there is zero chance Detroit deals sixth overall to the Rams for Jalen Ramsey, because I think that's really the best deal anyone is going to find. You might even get the Rams to chuck in more than just Ramsey.

 

[gallagher]

For the 1,000,001 time, Detroit is not trading with the fucking Bears to move up to one. Let it go already. Trade to #3 maybe? It could happen, but I hope not.

I don't think it is particularly likely but it is not out of the question. If the lions can get the top prospect that can grow behind a veteran that is still putting together good seasons, I think that any serious GM has to consider it. And if they are willing to put together a competitive offer, Poles better damn well consider it too. That's just business.

If Stroud is the number 1 prospect and the GM agrees that he'd be the future of the team, then you can't really settle for the second or third best QB.

 

[gallagher]

I think we could get three firsts and possible both their seconds this year. The issue is that they’re going to probably be really good and their first rounder isn’t likely to be a top ten pick. If I had to choose between Carolina at 9 and Houston at 12, I think I prefer Houston. The issue is we may lose JSN or Bijan to Philip at 10 and Paris Johnson to the Titans at 11.

I think I’m being too overly analytical about the value of next year’s picks and should just see the quantity as a win.

If Carolina is giving up three first, I would judge it unlikely that they are also giving up any seconds this year. Getting solid players in the second round are what makes up for not having future first rounders.

Just consider the difference of SF's trade to get lance. While the scenario is different (third best QB instead of first, and moved from 12 to 3) the compensation should be held next to that to establish a floor.

Three firsts and a third, mirroring that trade, is a floor to consider.

 

[nc0gnet0]

This I agree with. What I don't understand is why you think there is zero chance Detroit deals sixth overall to the Rams for Jalen Ramsey, because I think that's really the best deal anyone is going to find. You might even get the Rams to chuck in more than just Ramsey.

The 6th overall pick is too high. Refresh your memory on what the Rams traded to Detroit for Staff. Two first rounders, yes, but not in the current year. Now, Detroit using #18 for Ramsey is a possibility, but I am leaning more towards a 2nd this year and a second next year.

 

[gallagher]

The 6th overall pick is too high. Refresh your memory on what the Rams traded to Detroit for Staff. Two first rounders, yes, but not in the current year. Now, Detroit using #18 for Ramsey is a possibility, but I am leaning more towards a 2nd this year and a second next year.

I would guess that Detroit would rather spend 6th overall on the best CB in the draft. Using draft picks are supposed to save money, so spending 6 on CB instead of 18 for an expensive veteran CB (who is still at the top of his game) seems like the better deal.

 

[dentfan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1632771198470836224

If he sees 7 worth taking first overall, I wonder if that total includes one of the QBs. So, saying there’s at least 1 QB, in his opinion, taking first overall, that leads 6. If 4 QBs go in the top 10, a not unlikely possibility, that means he can push to about 10 and still get one of his guys. So, Texans at 12 must be his ceiling.

 

[dabears70]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1632771198470836224

7 players? Has to be including Young, Stroud and Richardson right?