Montucky
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I just don't think it should have happened at all and I'm still at a loss for why it did. Nothing about it makes sense.
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They’re not sold on Mooney is my guess
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You’d have to look at his stats when the trade was made dipshit. Not after the season when he got injured. Faulk wasn’t a HOF’er after that season so I’m not sure what your point is. Even @remydat can run you through the production Claypool had prior to this season.
Serious question—are the r3tard formerly known as “Mongo76”? Did you forget how to sign back into your account so you made an entirely new account? That poster had some serious mental issues like yourself and also had an affinity for Montana & Kentucky. Thus “Montucky.”
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I’m a ND fan and want nothing to do with Claypool. Been that way even before he entered the league.
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You're an idiot. It is intellectually dishonest to use last year as a reference for a player who was hurt and traded to a new team midseason. Claypools 3-year per season average was 56 receptions for 728 yards. He was on that pace in Pittsburgh prior to the trade. That average would have landed him at #36 for wide receiver yardage in 2022 just behind Tyler Boyd. I would expect Claypool to play to his averages next year which is exactly what you would expect from your #2 or #3 receiver. Personally, I don't give a shit about Olamide Zaccheaus, Josh Reynolds, or Greg Dortch. I'm only interested in what Claypool does next year, and yes, I do believe he will have a better year than most if not all the receivers taken after the 1st round this past draft.
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Rodgers does it as well fwiw
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The Carter debate all hinges on how you perceive the risk of his character issues present. That's it. There is really nothing more to say.
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We also don’t even know if ownership nixed the idea of drafting him. Could be that Poles wanted to but he had to answer to his bosses
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Has Patrick ever been a decent center? Like before his lost season with the bears?
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not sure which trades you are talking about? I'll give you Claypool, which could be true, but I think that is unclear until seeing his play next season.
1 to 9 favored by Bears 350 pts ( a late 2nd) if you value DJ as middle 1st.
9 to 10 was -20 pts but was a free 4th rd pick if that is all that was offered.
61,136 for 56 - Poles +10pts
103 for 115,165 even value
Quinn for a 4th was a huge win- A fourth for a guy that went on to have 2 tackles in 6 games had 4 DNP's and 1 inactive and is now a FA
R Smith for a 2nd and 5th another huge win- Dump a disgruntled player get a better scheme fit for less money plus add 2 draft picks.
What am I missing?
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Not really… He was a decent backup in Green Bay.
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Yeah I’m just not a fan of the Claypool trade and he probably gave up a round too much. But he definitely hasn’t been fleeced in any other trade. Came out ahead in the Quinn/Smith trades and also got a free 4th with no risk from the Eagles. I guess one could say he should have moved Quinn in the off-season prior but the best offer he got was a 4th then too.
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You know why. You just don't like the trade which is fine.
But to rehash. Poles traded for Claypool because he wanted to give Justin Fields a legitimate weapon in the receiving game during last season and one he could grow with after a full offseason together. This was after Fields led teams on would-be game tying/winning drives but had a game ending fumble by one receiver and another fail to clean catch a game-winning TD, and while showing he could put up 30ppg without him. They gave up a 2nd for him because that was the going rate. They had to give up their 2nd because the Packers offered a 2nd, and their 2nd was going to be higher than Baltimore's 2nd.
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Yes that told the entire story when Lions and Seahawks passed, they wanted Wright all along and got a draft pick from Eagles probably by telling them someone was ready to move up, smart move.
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Me too. I like claypool though, I think he fits well with Moore, it may be wishful thinking on my part.
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The Bears would rather have Claypool over Porter Jr. is what I said. Maybe they would have rather had the 32nd pick instead of Claypool, especially after Claypool didn't work out on the field. But, in general, I think they'd rather have a WR over a CB that may not fit their system.
Now, assuming the Bears didn't have Claypool, you could probably assume that they go WR much earlier than they did in this draft. At 32, you're either reaching for Mingo like Carolina or reaching for Jayden Reed like GB did. But literally every other WR they either passed up or wasn't in reach (unless they passed up RT).
Basically, my point is....it's time to give it up about the Claypool trade. There's a lot of moving parts here. Claypool not performing helped the Bears get #1. It's not just about getting 1 player for 1 pick. Sure the Bears lost the opportunity to move up or down from 32 and more or higher picks to get a WR. But Poles figured it was worth the opportunity to get his QB with a talented WR for a year and a half, especially when you had a FA class that was pathetic, a draft where WR1 went 20th, and a trade market that saw none of the other rumored targets (Jeudy, Higgins, Aiyuk) move anywhere until the Bears got the #1 pick