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Well then maybe you've LARGELY FAILED at life and you're just mad.

Were any of those drafts LARGELY FAILED drafts? This should be an easy answer. Now lets see if i get that. This could be the difference on if your life is LARGELY FAILED or not so take your time.

I’m going to pray for you. All I can do at this point.
 
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For a 5th round pick, I genuinely don't think you could ask more from a player. I had zero expectation when he was drafted as I knew nothing about him.

Could you improve on him next year? Maybe, but as fans, we've all been unhappy with lack of player development or at least trying to have players improve and be put in a position to succeed.

Have to see what next year brings and Fields is all moving forward, it's good to see a guy step in and give it his all on a line that lacked youth or depth.
@Chicago4Life thinks every 5th round pick should be a starter or it's a bad pick. LOL
 

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Well since you can't answer the very simple question of if Pace has or hasn't had 7 largely failed drafts then you're right, that is all you can do. The fact that you can't answer that very simple question gives me my answer.
 

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Word.

Member when Jerry Angelo spent a third round pick on Jaquin Iglesias, who never played a snap in the NFL despite the Bears having literally no one at receiver???

Who is now a manager at Keystone Mortgage lol.

But yeah, can we even call a 3rd rounder a bust? Is Trevis Gipson, a 5th rounder, a bust?

Cordarelle Patterson was a late 1st round pick. Is he a bust? Or did he redeem himself and his career?
 

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OK so first he was deebo-lite and now since he has been ass it's coming back to earth as a CP comp.

Lol, CP is a Deebo lite. I was referring to skill set. Deebo and Patterson both started out as WRs who started taking RBs snaps. Deebo became a good enough WR to stick there but Patterson become more of a RB who sometimes plays some WR.
 

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Who is now a manager at Keystone Mortgage lol.

But yeah, can we even call a 3rd rounder a bust? Is Trevis Gipson, a 5th rounder, a bust?

Cordarelle Patterson was a late 1st round pick. Is he a bust? Or did he redeem himself and his career?

Talk about weird careers….

I wouldn’t call him a bust at all. Vikings fans probably feel very different
 

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Just not how things work.

I was saying what I would accept not opining on how things work. I have no problem standing pat and taking Anderson or Carter and would not lose the chance to draft them with massive compensation.
 

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Speed in the backfield is lowkey a sneaky need for the Bears. Like you said, the stress on the D that Fields AND another 4.3-4.4 runner would put on the defense is crazy. Fields breaks a 50-yarder every week. So, now if you get ends not crashing and LBs/safeties hesitant because of that, you can hit them quick inside for a huge gain.

I'd love the Bears to be in position to sign a guy like Tony Pollard or even Saquon Barkley if their teams let them go. Also, if they can get enough picks in a trade back to get a Jahmyr Gibbs from Bama. Worst case, I'd love them to sign a Jeff Wilson or Mostert from Miami.

Using that much money or a high draft pick on a RB is probably a luxury, but it's a viable option to add something to this offense if you can't add help at WR. Velus is an option in the backfield as well, but Fields, Velus, Mooney, Claypool, Gibbs/Pollard/Mostert all on the field is dynamic and how Miami and SF put pressure on defenses, and they don't even have the QB run factor.

Yeah have no problem signing Barkley or Pollard to pair with Herbert with VJJ as a RB/WR hybrid.
 

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So no proof. Got it. Haha

Think you cant read. I told you the proof.

So you don't like the truth? Got it, but still nobody can show me how @remydat was right in saying Pace has 7 LARGELY FAILED drafts. Weird how that works.

2016
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2021

All very far from being LARGELY FAILED drafts since none of them are even close to being failed drafts let alone largely failed.

I did not say each draft was a failure in and of itself. I said 7 largely failed drafts as if you look at all the picks across all the drafts his succcess rate in early rounds was trash and he didnt hit on enough picks. I already said his last two drafts were probably his best but too late.
 
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Short story: I used to be a board called sportshoopla which has boards for various sports and teams within those. So on the same site, there's a board for each NFL team and a board for general NFL. Kinda cool cause you can discuss other teams like division rivals with divisions rival fans, and likewise for your team.

I can't imagine going onto a site entirely devoted to a rival team of mine and finding any chance to talk about my team there, considering the nature of the board itself isn't really inviting that... not like a sportshoopla type board is.

I certainly can't imagine also constantly shitting on that rival team on their own dedicated board either. I'd liken it to showing up to someone's house uninvited, push my way in, then tell them how awesome my choice of decorating is in my house compared to their shitty choice of paint color and flooring, then doing it again and again and again.

But that's just me and my story, unrelated to anything else entirely. Thanks for reading.
Yeah, I mean I don't even hate the Lions. It's cool to see them improve and the people of Detroit deserve something to feel hopeful about. I actually look forward to some competitive Bears Lions games with possible playoff implications next year. That said, only a total loser would spam this thread with shitposts about it. Of course my reply is also unrelated to anything else.
 

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Lol, CP is a Deebo lite. I was referring to skill set. Deebo and Patterson both started out as WRs who started taking RBs snaps. Deebo became a good enough WR to stick there but Patterson become more of a RB who sometimes plays some WR.
Except CP can't play wr effectively whereas Deebo is primarily a fairly dominant wr
 

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Except CP can't play wr effectively whereas Deebo is primarily a fairly dominant wr

Hence why I said lite. CP and VJJ would be Deebo lite ie lesser versions of the same skill set. They all were WRs that dabbled in WR. Deebo developed his WR skills to a greater extent although would still say his route tree is limited.

Deebo has just 3 targets over 20 yards and just 14 between 10-19 yards. 30 percent of his targets are behind the LoS and 50 percent between 0-10. His value is almost entirely in his YAC not running a full route tree.

If they were capable of being dominant WRs they would be Deebo like not lite.
 
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How is it that people that say they know football don't seem to understand what you should expect from guys drafted in the 1st round on through to the 7th round? It baffles me that some of you expect 5th round picks to be pro bowl players. Pace did well in all 3 of those drafts especially going by where each were drafted.

If you think those were largely failed drafts then that's on you.
lol i never talked about every pick needing to be a stud or a pro bowler but keep in mind when you select these guys in the later rounds, the staff needs to be able to develop and improve their weak areas...all these pace picks played or had to play because he couldnt build the team with quality home grown talent and such has day 3 players being starters...you love you some vildor right? he has one more season before being a free agent, lets see how much the nfl loves them some vildor...

you say these were his best drafts, dont you find that sad? if these were his best than the others were really really bad...that itself should tell you the guy was over his head...he constantly had to pony up money in free agency to improve the roster...yes thanks goes to pace, for trading up for fields...shame the team was so devoid of quality homegrown talent coupled with a head coach that doesnt understand one simple word "adapt" that none of them got to reap the benefits...
 

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Hence why I said lite. CP and VJJ would be Deebo lite ie lesser versions of the same skill set.

If they were capable of being dominant WRs they would be Deebo like not lite.
It's not the same skill set though. Deebo can play wr well, they cannot. They can line up out there for screens and jet sweeps an a occasional fly route, but that's it. Basically like Aaron Jones lite or any other rb that splits out wide sometimes
 

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The 2015 draft was a bad draft which is why i didn't say it was good. Do have have issues with paying attention?

Very good math from you on understanding 3 out of 7 is more bad than good. Were you home schooled?

Who did or didn't get extended has nothing to do with if they were good or bad picks. Did they have careers in the NFL with and after the Bears? Yes you say, well then they were good draft picks.

That paying attention thing is really tough for you.
That’s ridiculous. It’s only a good draft pick for the Bears if they were good for the Bears. Not what they did on their next stop. That means nothing to the Bears success. This isn’t hard. A GM doesn’t make picks so that said pick can be better for the next team that signs them. This isn’t hard.
 

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That’s ridiculous. It’s only a good draft pick for the Bears if they were good for the Bears. Not what they did on their next stop. That means nothing to the Bears success. This isn’t hard. A GM doesn’t make picks so that said pick can be better for the next team that signs them. This isn’t hard.
Deon Bush and nick kwiatowski have done awesome being reserves for other teams. GREAT PICKS!
 
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