Official 2023 Training Camp thread

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Reps doesn't cure bad and splitting 2nd team reps with Sam Darnold isn't a path to better. How he ever got hyped into a 1st rd QB off of such limited tape is beyond me. One year of outstanding college production is rarely a great barometer( unfortunately, see Mitch Trubisky). How a low college level, minimal starts, year removed from playing QB goes #3 after trading 3 1st is criminal by the 49ers. And I can near guarantee Purdy is going to do a less douchey 2nd year Mac Jones-esque cliff dive this season.
If that's true they better hope Shanny can fix Darnold quick.
 

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The eye test for me with the offensive line was that when the offense was in a known passing situation, especially when needed for entire drive like at the end of a half or the game...they did not hold up. And imo, that is really the difference and how best to highlight the offensive line issues last year and really the past couple of years.
Definitely some good and bad with our OL.
 

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Add to that his one good year was in a predominantly running team. At least Mitch was a passer on a passing team his one year of good college ball.

Getting Fields was a miracle because so many things have to have happened for him to become a Bear.
What's that song? " I believe in miracles".
 

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Don't know if he'll be all that or not but we knew he had a history of slow to acclimate from college. Gifted athlete that may not be the sharpest pencil in the bag. He's obviously been working hard and getting better. Fingers crossed.
he's has a post-graduate degree, I forget in what, however....the man is very smart....I'll bet he'll learn the playbook. If not already.
 

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The last time I witnessed Fields and Lawrence go head to head, they were each on stacked college teams.

The outcome would have been a knockout if it was boxing.

Fields absolutely looked like the superior player.
That game was/is the best comparison to this point and JF was head & shoulders better.
 

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All the focus on skill is misplaced. You can’t overlook our horrible Oline play for all the years JF1 has been QB1. Trevor Lawrence has been given much more time in the passing game than JF1 has been given.

Hopefully that changes this year…….
You're right I was going to say that, then saw your post. True, true.
 

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Historically, the SF passing game has been consistently hugely superior to the Bears.

Maybe we should wait a bit before gloating about TC results.

Yes that was precisely my point.
HE had 99 HS attempts, then 31 attempts in the 2 season sandwiching his 287 attempt in what should be called $34M season. He needs reps, but for NFL longevity those should have come at NDSU. Hard to say a guy made a wrong decision by banking $34M, and he may have shit the bed the next season at NDSU and dropped like a rock, but $34M is RB money, and we all know about RB money. It safe to say he won't be getting an Allen, Herbert, Burrow, or likey Lawerace/Fields $260M after third yr extension and more likely will follow the Darnald path to obscurity.
I think the talent is still there for him to turn it around but yes likely not getting a huge 2nd contract at this point unless Purdy gets injured. Crazy to think he was basically paid 100k per college attempt ie 318 attempts x 100k is 31.8m.
 

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So much for the genius HC and GM.

I dont recall anyone hyping him up as a GM considering the Niners GM is Lynch.

Shanny is easily one of the best Xs and Os HCs in the NFL. His problem is he apparently isn't great at picking frqnchise QBs although Purdy is his best chance yet to change that narrative.
 
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