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Official Epstein Thread (Epstein baseball side prez/Hoyer is GM)
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I don't believe you.
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Carl Crawford- $142 million. Adrian Gonzalez- $154 million. Apparently Theo Epstein's version of "Moneyball" didn't work. #redsox #rays
lol I really cant believe he gave CC almost as much as A-Gonz.
Carl Crawford- $142 million. Adrian Gonzalez- $154 million. Apparently Theo Epstein's version of "Moneyball" didn't work. #redsox #rays
lol I really cant believe he gave CC almost as much as A-Gonz.
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Epstein looks good with red and blue around him. Better than navy and red. 
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For those pinning Crawford's contract on Epstein, I mean, you gotta look @ CC's numbers before the signing.
13 triples, 19 Hrs, 90 RBIs, 47 SBs, .307 BA. in 2010. That's just scary.
No one saw his #s declining in 2011 as much as they did. no one.
13 triples, 19 Hrs, 90 RBIs, 47 SBs, .307 BA. in 2010. That's just scary.
No one saw his #s declining in 2011 as much as they did. no one.
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I'm not doing anything against CC's contract. I knew what he did and wasn't surprise of the contract.
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For those pinning Crawford's contract on Epstein, I mean, you gotta look @ CC's numbers before the signing.
13 triples, 19 Hrs, 90 RBIs, 47 SBs, .307 BA. in 2010. That's just scary.
No one saw his #s declining in 2011 as much as they did. no one.
exactly my point
excessive contract? slightly...but considering the caliber player he was offensively AND defensively before i dont think it was ridiculous by any means,no one knew he was going to fall flat on his face like he did thats just a risk with getting FAs as i mentioned... not to mention it was the open market(supply and demand)...
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Could the same sentiment be applied to the Cubs and the long-term contract given to Soriano? :thinking:
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It can. Soriano was definitely overpaid, but nobody expected his legs to go to hell and thus suppress his defensive and baserunning value. Shit happens.
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I agree. The market can really screw teams when they sign players to these long, drawn-out contracts. But that's the business of baseball these days. Players want the money and a long-term deal. Market value wins out.
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Which is why there is a possibility that guys who otherwise wouldn't be worth their contracts will be paid anyway. They know that teams want the 3-4 years up front that they can provide at peak value before they'll fall off a cliff, and will have to pony up for the other 4+ years when they'll decline, or else some other team will overbid and get them. It's kind of a silly waste of money, but at the same time, it's not :lol: That's baseball.
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ehhhh
yes and no
soriano was always a meh defender
and he partly deteriorated due to age, when his SB flew out the window(i dont really think SBs are THAT important(especially when other teams cant score w/ RISP...but it shows athleticism i guess)
and then his overall production took a dip
my honest opinion, but i think crawford was probably better last year than soriano was in 06(soriano has more power but crawford plays incredible D)
and a little younger than soriano was
but i see the connection here
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Moneyball in a truer form of the word. :lmao:
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Moneyball was about trying to expose and take advantage of market inefficiencies so you can buy something like on-base percentage for cheap. Getting Soriano was the exact opposite of Moneyball, as there's no way you can say that paying him that much was efficient :lol:
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