Official Epstein Thread (Epstein baseball side prez/Hoyer is GM)

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ehhhh

yes and no

soriano was always a meh defender

and he partly deteriorated due to age, when his SB flew out the window(i dont really think SBs are THAT important(especially when other teams cant score w/ RISP...but it shows athleticism i guess)

and then his overall production took a dip

my honest opinion, but i think crawford was probably better last year than soriano was in 06(soriano has more power but crawford plays incredible D)

and a little younger than soriano was

but i see the connection here

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DUDE soriano is a great defender the best actually, in 2007 and 08. DAT RANGE FACTOR BRO, have you seen that shit. ITS HUGE!!!!

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Funny thing is Theo gets credit for 2004 and 2007 BUT the core of the 2004 team was done by Dan Duquette. The additions for 2007 mainly Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell were done by Bill Lajoie when Theo was off in his gorilla suit dancing to rock bands in South America

Theo is overrated.
 
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Better history? The Sox didn't win for 86 years. Lol

Better fans? Boston fans are obnoxious pricks. Negative. Lol

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While both have had droughts, Red Sox have had better players and more playoffs differences during that drought.

Red Sox nation is kind of douchey, but is it any worse than that frat boy, out of town, only go to Wrigley to get drunk fans? Doubt it.
 

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Epstein or Friedman would be fine. This team isn't far from being very solid. Dump Aram, dump big X.....get new good gm, get Francona, try to land Fielder, but for sure land a solid pitcher or two and call up more young guys nxt yer.
 

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Epstein or Friedman would be fine. This team isn't far from being very solid. Dump Aram, dump big X.....get new good gm, get Francona, try to land Fielder, but for sure land a solid pitcher or two and call up more young guys nxt yer.

Who exactly would you replace with Ramirez? I am willing to bet $50 that they aren't better than Ramirez.
 

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Who exactly would you replace with Ramirez? I am willing to bet $50 that they aren't better than Ramirez.

The guy doesn't have to have better stats then Ramirez in order for us to succeed its one damn position. If they dont pick up a solid vet out there Ill be happy with any young guy playing 3B. The guy in his first year prolly wont pout up Arams stats and maybe never will. All you need is a guy who hits for good avg and plays D....not many teams have good hitting 3b's so you dont need one especially paying 16 mill for Ramirez is so stupid...can use that money for much better use tbqh. Get off his dick. he era is gone and its time to move on. The guy is a terrible role model for any young guy btw. Stats are nice, but not showing up in the playoffs, and having this lazy ass attitude off the field is not good imo.
 

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The guy doesn't have to have better stats then Ramirez in order for us to succeed its one damn position. If they dont pick up a solid vet out there Ill be happy with any young guy playing 3B. The guy in his first year prolly wont pout up Arams stats and maybe never will. All you need is a guy who hits for good avg and plays D....not many teams have good hitting 3b's so you dont need one especially paying 16 mill for Ramirez is so stupid...can use that money for much better use tbqh. Get off his dick. he era is gone and its time to move on. The guy is a terrible role model for any young guy btw. Stats are nice, but not showing up in the playoffs, and having this lazy ass attitude off the field is not good imo.

Sorry but A-Ram easly best Cubs hitter and losign him will hurt TONS
 

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While both have had droughts, Red Sox have had better players and more playoffs differences during that drought.

Red Sox nation is kind of douchey, but is it any worse than that frat boy, out of town, only go to Wrigley to get drunk fans? Doubt it.

Boston sucked until Theo took over. Sure they made the playoffs a few times, but so did the Cubs. They were on par until around 2002-03.

Boston fans are the biggest douches, second only to New York fans and the gap is closing. Chicago isn't anywhere close to the smug, arrogant pricks in the northeast.
 

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Epstein or Friedman would be fine. This team isn't far from being very solid. Dump Aram, dump big X.....get new good gm, get Francona, try to land Fielder, but for sure land a solid pitcher or two and call up more young guys nxt yer.

No. No. And, no.

Stick to basketball.
 

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No. No. And, no.

Stick to basketball.

I know baseball pretty well. I am a person who likes to have a team of young guys tbh a la the Rays....But aram isn't the best guy long term thats for sure especially if he wants anywhere near 16 million.
 

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we have so many holes on our team it isnt even funny. We need Prince and about 7 good pitcher and we might contend.
 

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Boston sucked until Theo took over. Sure they made the playoffs a few times, but so did the Cubs. They were on par until around 2002-03.

Boston has had a lot of winning season between 1917-2004, Cubs not so much. And a lot more playoff appearances.

Boston: 1946, 1967, 1975, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1995, 1998, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009

Cubs: 1984, 1989, 1998, 2003, 2007, 2008

And just because Boston didn't win the World Series all those years didn't mean they sucked, just means they never won anything.
 

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Boston has had a lot of winning season between 1917-2004, Cubs not so much. And a lot more playoff appearances.

Boston: 1946, 1967, 1975, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1995, 1998, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009

Cubs: 1984, 1989, 1998, 2003, 2007, 2008

And just because Boston didn't win the World Series all those years didn't mean they sucked, just means they never won anything.

This part is important. The thing I'm most interested in is the fact that Theo took the resources he was given (whether the farm he inherited or whatever) and had a perennial contender.
 

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Boston has had a lot of winning season between 1917-2004, Cubs not so much. And a lot more playoff appearances.

Boston: 1946, 1967, 1975, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1995, 1998, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009

Cubs: 1984, 1989, 1998, 2003, 2007, 2008

And just because Boston didn't win the World Series all those years didn't mean they sucked, just means they never won anything.

You're forgetting a lot of playoff appearances since that mark you set at 1917...

Cubs: 1918, 1929, 1932, 1935, 1938, 1945
BSox: 1918,

Not to mention that the Cubs actually threw the 1918 World Series...

Not sure where 1917 comes into play, but since 1901 (when the AL became major), you can also add:

Cubs: 1906, 1907, 1906, 1910,
BSox: 1903, 1904, 1912, 1915, 1916,

Still Boston holds a wide enough margin though.

I would go back to 1870, but that'd be unfair as Boston didn't exist then, but for the record...
Cubs:
National Association of Base Ball Players: 1870
National Association of Professional Base Ball Players: None
National League: 1876, 1880, 1881, 1882, 1885, 1886,
 

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You're forgetting a lot of playoff appearances since that mark you set at 1917...

Cubs: 1918, 1929, 1932, 1935, 1938, 1945
BSox: 1918,

Not to mention that the Cubs actually threw the 1918 World Series...

Not sure where 1917 comes into play, but since 1901 (when the AL became major), you can also add:

Cubs: 1906, 1907, 1906, 1910,
BSox: 1903, 1904, 1912, 1915, 1916,

Still Boston holds a wide enough margin though.

I would go back to 1870, but that'd be unfair as Boston didn't exist then, but for the record...
Cubs:
National Association of Base Ball Players: 1870
National Association of Professional Base Ball Players: None
National League: 1876, 1880, 1881, 1882, 1885, 1886,

Yeah, that was the point, the Cubs had pretty much sucked since 1945 :lol:
 

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Boston has had a lot of winning season between 1917-2004, Cubs not so much. And a lot more playoff appearances.

Boston: 1946, 1967, 1975, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1995, 1998, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009

Cubs: 1984, 1989, 1998, 2003, 2007, 2008

And just because Boston didn't win the World Series all those years didn't mean they sucked, just means they never won anything.

Winning the World Series is all that matters. Making the postseason means nothing without holding the Commissioner's Trophy at the end of October.
 

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I know baseball pretty well. I am a person who likes to have a team of young guys tbh a la the Rays....But aram isn't the best guy long term thats for sure especially if he wants anywhere near 16 million.

I know. I was joking. Most of those opinions suggested I agreed completely with.
 

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The guy doesn't have to have better stats then Ramirez in order for us to succeed its one damn position. If they dont pick up a solid vet out there Ill be happy with any young guy playing 3B. The guy in his first year prolly wont pout up Arams stats and maybe never will. All you need is a guy who hits for good avg and plays D....not many teams have good hitting 3b's so you dont need one especially paying 16 mill for Ramirez is so stupid...can use that money for much better use tbqh. Get off his dick. he era is gone and its time to move on. The guy is a terrible role model for any young guy btw. Stats are nice, but not showing up in the playoffs, and having this lazy ass attitude off the field is not good imo.

Okay, I suppose he doesn't have to have better stats for us to succeed, but it's sure gonna help having Ramirez. When you factor in that Barney is most likely our 2B, then yeah, we have no chance at being good next year if we don't bring Ramirez back. Good avg and plays D = Darwin Barney. Why would we pay Ramirez 16 million dollars? He opt'd out of his deal because he is looking for a longer term deal. Use the money for other places? You're creating a hole to fix a hole, that's terrible problem solving technique. Ramirez isn't paid to be a role model, if you want a role model march on down to Sturdy Wings. I'm not going to get into the playoffs debate again, but lazy ass attitude off the field? Who cares about his attitude? I don't. As long as he produces, I am happy and you should be too, considering that's his job.

I know baseball pretty well. I am a person who likes to have a team of young guys tbh a la the Rays....But aram isn't the best guy long term thats for sure especially if he wants anywhere near 16 million.

A-Ram more than likely IS the best option at 3B for the next couple years. 3B sucks, like you said so why just give up your top tier hitting 3B?
 

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Yeah, that was the point, the Cubs had pretty much sucked since 1945 :lol:

Yeah, I did it from their last pennant, not since their last WS title. Which I guess JNTG makes a good point, I should have included those playoff apperences between 1908-1945.
 
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