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I hope you are right because I think if they pass, there's a chance he makes it to 10. If I were taking an offensive weapon and were them, it'd be jeanty
Yea we’ll see. If I’m Poles though, I couldn’t live with some random clip of “we were prepared to take Tet at 5, but got an offer to move down and still got our guy”. Maybe if I’m getting a QB, LT, or Edge, but not for a RB. That kills my resume.
 

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Yea we’ll see. If I’m Poles though, I couldn’t live with some random clip of “we were prepared to take Tet at 5, but got an offer to move down and still got our guy”. Maybe if I’m getting a QB, LT, or Edge, but not for a RB. That kills my resume.
Oh I wouldn’t trade up for jeanty. I just think Jax taking him may be legit.
 

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Campbell and Banks are expected to play tackle. Even those acknowledging that there's a chance they may need to move inside are very high on their future there, and Campbell has even been mentioned as a possibility at Center.

"Risky" is the last word I would use to describe them as prospects.

If you mean simply that it's a "risk" that the Bears would have terrific depth and flexibility, then I suppose that's true.

Using #10 on a guy who would be a backup immediately or would definitely only be IOL is one thing. But they both are likely to stick at T, and IOL would not be a bad thing and that's worst case scenario.
You're painting a very rosy picture. Campbell has been consistently labeled as lacking the arm length needed to play LT. Banks has been consistently viewed as having poor balance and athleticism as well as lacking awareness in pass protection. Banks is clearly listed as an OG by Dane Brugler and others.

Risky is gambling a high draft pick on a prospect that may need to be shifted to a new position and hoping he will perform well there.
 

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Oh I wouldn’t trade up for jeanty. I just think Jax taking him may be legit.
Yea, I got you. I just mean I’d live with them taking Jeanty vs paying a premium to move up. There’s enough reason for me to call the bluff. If it’s not a bluff, I’m sure good decisions with the picks the Bears have will still outweigh what the Jags wanted. I can live with losing him.
 

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You're painting a very rosy picture. Campbell has been consistently labeled as lacking the arm length needed to play LT. Banks has been consistently viewed as having poor balance and athleticism as well as lacking awareness in pass protection. Banks is clearly listed as an OG by Dane Brugler and others.

Risky is gambling a high draft pick on a prospect that may need to be shifted to a new position and hoping he will perform well there.
We all know about Campbell's arm length.

In spite of that, several people have him Top 10 and many of those Top 5. So if the arms are an issue, the general consensus is he's a strong G or C candidate.

I am not advocating for using #10 on him, nor am I ripping my dick if the Bears do. But when I say not risky I mean, you take a swing for a T with a safety net of having him inside, vs some guys who simply don't live up to their draft status.

Draft a T at #10, and you take some degree of risk that he just doesn't end u being very good at all. But in Campbell's case, people seem to believe strongly his floor is a top IOL.

"Bansk has been consistently viewed as..."? Really? The views of Banks are anything but consistent. Some mock him in the 20's while others have him as the top tackle.
 

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Shit… him too?! lol… no way all 3 don’t go in the first. That’s a bit much.
I don't think it's hard to envision the rapist falling out of Round 1. No team had him in for a visit. In a draft deep with D linemen, his past may turn a lot of GMs off - or at least convince them not to use a 1st round pick.

I don't know what to think of Nolen except that it seems CCS is higher on him than everyone else is.

Pearce? I have seen him outside the first as often as not.

Well....we soon shall see. That's the fun part.
 

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I don't think it's hard to envision the rapist falling out of Round 1. No team had him in for a visit. In a draft deep with D linemen, his past may turn a lot of GMs off - or at least convince them not to use a 1st round pick.

I don't know what to think of Nolen except that it seems CCS is higher on him than everyone else is.

Pearce? I have seen him outside the first as often as not.

Well....we soon shall see. That's the fun part.
Well, I did say all 3... so just takes 1, haha. But I don't agree that everyone is low on Nolen except CCS. McShay just mocked him at 8 overall to the Panthers today. Addressing the concerns with Nolen and Pearce directly, McShay says their tape never shows any concerns that they don't play hard.
 

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Well, I did say all 3... so just takes 1, haha. But I don't agree that everyone is low on Nolen except CCS. McShay just mocked him at 8 overall to the Panthers today. Addressing the concerns with Nolen and Pearce directly, McShay says their tape never shows any concerns that they don't play hard.
Mcshay has been pulling more shit out of his ass the last 48 hours than anyone I’ve mocked drafter ever
 

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Well, I did say all 3... so just takes 1, haha. But I don't agree that everyone is low on Nolen except CCS. McShay just mocked him at 8 overall to the Panthers today. Addressing the concerns with Nolen and Pearce directly, McShay says their tape never shows any concerns that they don't play hard.
Oh, I agree. I actually meant to add that all three would be surprising. But some react like any of them dropping out would be shocking, and I wouldn't go quite that far.

This year as much as any in recent memory, it seems some guys are all over the place in mocks, so we shall see what the GMs think.
 

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We all know about Campbell's arm length.

In spite of that, several people have him Top 10 and many of those Top 5. So if the arms are an issue, the general consensus is he's a strong G or C candidate.

I am not advocating for using #10 on him, nor am I ripping my dick if the Bears do. But when I say not risky I mean, you take a swing for a T with a safety net of having him inside, vs some guys who simply don't live up to their draft status.

Draft a T at #10, and you take some degree of risk that he just doesn't end u being very good at all. But in Campbell's case, people seem to believe strongly his floor is a top IOL.

"Bansk has been consistently viewed as..."? Really? The views of Banks are anything but consistent. Some mock him in the 20's while others have him as the top tackle.
Since "we all know" about Campbell's short arms then there is no reason to claim that he will "likely" stay at left tackle. In reality he is just as likely NOT to stay at LT just like most that have had his measurements. If he ends up being moved to guard, locked behind an all pro and a former pro bowl player for the next couple of years, that would be a horrible outcome for the Bears but not the Patriots who need interior and perimeter help. Which is why people have him going there.

Banks was always considered the 2nd best prospect until Membou blew away the combine. Now he is 3rd best OT in a weak overall tackle draft. He is in no way a sure thing to be superior to Braxton Jones, his benefit would be restarting the monetary clock at the position IF he can play there. The fact that multiple people have questioned his ability to stick at tackle the entire process is not a good look. Originally they thought his arm length would also be short but he measured out average, but he still tends to get knocked around and is too slow getting out against speed rushers.

He is a solid OT prospect, but his floor isn't much higher than Amegadjie's was coming out so what's the point of creating a log jam at the position. The Bears have enough guys that can play LT this season and can wait for a better and healthier crop of prospects next season if Braxton is indeed too expensive.
 

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Mcshay has been pulling more shit out of his ass the last 48 hours than anyone I’ve mocked drafter ever
Well, Matt Miller mocked him at 8 too today. Schrager mocked him at 11, over Mason. Schrager is pretty well connected. I'm sure plenty people outside CCS think Nolen is good.
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