*OFFICIAL* Offseason Rumors, Signings, and Shenanigans

[remydat]

Easier said than done. Every team has a team doctor, but most teams do not have a team psychiatrist.

Players will go to their own psychiatrists and that means that there is a patient doctor relationship, meaning Poles cannot get information about a patients mental health from him.

They will be dealing with incomplete information no matter how many millions Poles gets paid.

Now Poles may ask a psychiatrist to do the porno test (You know ... person, man, woman, camera, tv) but that won't really give a clear picture of a person's mental health.

I would imagine if Ridley wants to play again he will have to be open and honest to teams about his situation. No one is trading for him if he tried to hide what happened.

 

[pseudonym]

Just my two cents (basically worthless) is that I would rather take a chance on a WR who is recovering from a physical injury than a mental injury.

Once the physical injury heals, the player will eventually not worry about it. That is not the case for a mental injury. It is an injury that will always have a chance of coming back.

It's definitely more complex and we know way less about mental health than, say, an ACL tear. You are correct. BUT, with mental health, you can also get the right treatment and medication and be 100% (or close). There is always risk in football, and always a risk whether it's mental OR physical. Guys walk away all the time. Guys retire. Guys have a horrible injury that ends their career. Guys have the same injury pop up several times, a constant liability. I hear what you're saying. Let's just not write him off.

 

[JoJoBoxer]

Ya no shit, good for him . That doesn’t change the fact that he quit on his team.

No, what he did is what you proposed he do, go out and get some help.

Because it happened during the season, you are saying that he quit on his team. Could it be possible that he was dealing with some mental issues that could not wait until the end of the season?

He doesn't do what you propose he should do (go seek some help) and he might have committed suicide.

Because he did you what you proposed he should do, you are calling him a quitter.

Can you not see that YOU are the one who is wrong?

 

[remydat]

Do you think he could carry the ball from the FB position? Could he handle the lead back duties of the I formation?

I’ve been leaning towards Heyward out of MS for FB, but could be dissuaded.

He is more TE than FB IMO. He is a beast after the catch. Here is a good scouting report.

Chigoziem Okonkwo, TE, Maryland

Senior, 6'2", 242v lbs

thedraftnetwork.com

 

[modo]

No joke.

George Halas .720+
Ralph Jones .706
Hunk Anderson .676
Luke Johnsos .676
Mike Ditka .631
Paddy Driscoll .609
Lovie Smith .563
Matt Nagy .523

These are the winning percentages (Halas was split in 4 coaching stints and I didn't calculate the total) of all Bear coaches with a winning percentage in Bears HISTORY.

Since you stated that Lovie was the third best Bears coach in Bears history, I just corrected you.


Or are you suddenly going to rank head coaches on something that is not wins and losses?

the ranking police have spoken

 

[remydat]

Lovie was with the team last year. Its not someone they just pulled out of their ass from left field.

You can seal a lawsuit. Its hard to do but you can. Its easier to redact parts of it so only the court can see it. Flores lawyers turned it into a publicity stunt.

And yet they waited until the last minute to interview. Dont play dumb. Everyone else that had an internal candidate interviewed their internal candidate early in the process. You already admitted you would not touch Flores so why are you pretending Lovie wasnt interviewed because of the lawsuit?

You dont seal or redact a lawsuit of this nature as you just admitted it would be hard to do. So you are literally asking him to do something out of the ordinary to protect the very people he is suing. It is absurd logic.

 

[Visionman]

I can imagine some candidates for the Giants HC job saying that Glennon is ideal for viewing the field with his telescoping neck.

I am sure that Nagy heaped praise on Trubisky while interviewing too.

So you think it’s a good idea for a prospective HC to lie to his future employer in an interview??

 

[Visionman]

This is dumb. It is obvious to anyone he would be better off not filing a lawsuit if he wanted a job.

He figured out he wasn’t getting another HC job, so he decided to try to take everyone down with him. Some men just want to watch the world burn…

 

[Visionman]

And yet they waited until the last minute to interview. Dont play dumb. Everyone else that had an internal candidate interviewed their internal candidate early in the process. You already admitted you would not touch Flores so why are you pretending Lovie wasnt interviewed because of the lawsuit?

You dont seal or redact a lawsuit of this nature as you just admitted it would be hard to do. So you are literally asking him to do something out of the ordinary to protect the very people he is suing. It is absurd logic.

They already knew Lovie. Obviously wasn’t their first choice as HC though. But after the process, they decided they had their guy right there all the time. Whether he is the right guy or not us a different story…

 

[remydat]

He figured out he wasn’t getting another HC job, so he decided to try to take everyone down with him. Some men just want to watch the world burn…

He was still in the running for the Texans job. Logically it would have been better for him to wait for the Texans to hire McCown who hasnt coached above HS then file the lawsuit as then the McCown hire would have lent credence to his case even more.

They already knew Lovie. Obviously wasn’t their first choice as HC though. But after the process, they decided they had their guy right there all the time. Whether he is the right guy or not us a different story…

If you believe this shit I have beachfront property to sell in the Sahara. It was Flores or McCown not Lovie. The lawsuit pushed them to Lovie.

 

[modo]

And yet they waited until the last minute to interview. Dont play dumb. Everyone else that had an internal candidate interviewed their internal candidate early in the process. You already admitted you would not touch Flores so why are you pretending Lovie wasnt interviewed because of the lawsuit?

You dont seal or redact a lawsuit of this nature as you just admitted it would be hard to do. So you are literally asking him to do something out of the ordinary to protect the very people he is suing. It is absurd logic.

How do you know they didn't have any conversations with him previously?
Not everything is announced for public consumption.

I said its hard to seal a whole lawsuit. Its easier to redact pieces of it. I also stated the reasons why it was done as a publicity stunt moreso than a serious lawsuit.

And yes, I have no problem with the Texans saying no because of it.

MY ORIGINAL POINT: still stands.
Flores threw Lovie under the bus with his comments.

 

[remydat]

How do you know they didn't have any conversations with him previously?
Not everything is announced for public consumption.

I said its hard to seal a whole lawsuit. Its easier to redact pieces of it. I also stated the reasons why it was done as a publicity stunt moreso than a serious lawsuit.

And yes, I have no problem with the Texans saying no because of it.

MY ORIGINAL POINT: still stands.
Flores threw Lovie under the bus with his comments.

Lawyers say Texans only hired Lovie Smith over Brian Flores due to NFL lawsuit; GM Nick Caserio refutes claim

www.google.com

All the reporting on this is that his name emerged late. Stop making up shit just to fit your narrative.

You dont redact lawsuits to protect the person you are suing. Again this argument is dumb. It does not happen as you suggest.

My point still stands. He didnt throw Lovie under the bus. He pointed out Lovie only came up because of the lawsuit.

I mean you might as well just say you will make up any evidence to fit your narrative. I mean at least wait for the Texans to claim Lovie was a candidate all along rather than make up your own duck tales.

 

[TL1961]

The thing with lovie is he can't recruit for shit

That was one problem. He didn't make the effort. Instead of Illinois being able to sell a coach who went to a Super Bowl to recruits, they just made no effort.

However, it goes much deeper than that. This past season, with the same players, playing the same opponents, the Illinois D allowed half the points of the year before. Opposing coaches said when Lovie was there, they knew the D from the alignment on the first play, and Illinois made no adjustments. This year's D coordinator adjusted constantly, and thus had far more success with the same personnel.

Lovie stubbornly runs one outdated system and doesn't adjust.

 

[Visionman]

He was still in the running for the Texans job. Logically it would have been better for him to wait for the Texans to hire McCown who hasnt coached above HS then file the lawsuit as then the McCown hire would have lent credence to his case even more.



If you believe this shit I have beachfront property to sell in the Sahara. It was Flores or McCown not Lovie. The lawsuit pushed them to Lovie.

Sure it did. Lol.

 

[modo]

Lawyers say Texans only hired Lovie Smith over Brian Flores due to NFL lawsuit; GM Nick Caserio refutes claim

www.google.com

All the reporting on this is that his name emerged late. Stop making up shit just to fit your narrative.

You dont redact lawsuits to protect the person you are suing. Again this argument is dumb. It does not happen as you suggest.

My point still stands. He didnt throw Lovie under the bus. He pointed out Lovie only came up because of the lawsuit.

I mean you might as well just say you will make up any evidence to fit your narrative. I mean at least wait for the Texans to claim Lovie was a candidate all along rather than make up your own duck tales.

It emerged late because it was never announced they were actively interviewing him.

They hired him right after they "officially" interviewed him

Do you honestly think the Texans made a snap decision and never thought about Lovie as a HC candidate at all up until a day ago? You'd have to be a moron to believe that.

Is it possible that the Texans may have talked about it before hand or maybe spoke with their associated head coach without running it by you first.

Do I need to add you to the list of people who think nothing happens behind the scenes of an NFL team unless it exists on Twitter?

And yes he threw Lovie under the bus by saying he was the best candidate and Lovie only got the position because of the lawsuit. Its a disservice to Lovie. Frankly, Lovie has had a more successful NFL career than Flores. You are acting like it is some scientific, provable foregone conclusion that Flores would automatically get it.

Flores was an asshole for making that comment.

 

[TL1961]

So you wanted him to file a lawsuit without stating his claims?

He didnt claim Lovie was 2nd rate. If Lovie was always a part of the coaching search then that would be one thing but they have been searching for a coach for what like a month and somehow the guy that has been in the building all season gets a last minute invite and the job.

So not questioning Lovie's ability or credentials. He is questioning why Lovie appeared out of nowhere really as a candidate.

Discovery is going to be interesting in this instance if Lovie's name didnt come up until after the lawsuit and if they are communications nixing McCown because of the lawsuit.

Flores is undermining what credible charges he has made by trying to now paint every circumstance and every situation as racism.

Saying his interview in Denver was obviously a sham simply based on the fact a team would dare hire someone other than him is ridiculous. Add to it the charges that Elway and company "appeared hungover"? That was stupid as hell. Even if they were, it does not help his case in any way.

He may have valid arguments in some cases, but claiming "anyone who could consider any other coach other than me is obviously a racist" is a dumb approach.

Lovie Smith would not be my choice today (neither woul Flores even before the lawsuit), but to imply it's wrong to hire a guy who went to a Super Bowl over a guy who couldn't make the playoffs? C'mon, man!

 

[TL1961]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1490839549110468609

Aubrey Pleasant?

Wasn't she on Parks n Rec?

 

[Rise]

Flores is undermining what credible charges he has made by trying to now paint every circumstance and every situation as racism.

Saying his interview in Denver was obviously a sham simply based on the fact a team would dare hire someone other than him is ridiculous. Add to it the charges that Elway and company "appeared hungover"? That was stupid as hell. Even if they were, it does not help his case in any way.

He may have valid arguments in some cases, but claiming "anyone who could consider any other coach other than me is obviously a racist" is a dumb approach.

Lovie Smith would not be my choice today (neither woul Flores even before the lawsuit), but to imply it's wrong to hire a guy who went to a Super Bowl over a guy who couldn't make the playoffs? C'mon, man!

Yeah Flores is coming off petty and toxic, leave Lovie alone! Lol. Sometimes you gotta look in the mirror and have some self reflection. While I agree he has some valid points, especially the one about token Rooney rule interviews being bs, he isn’t 100% innocent with what went down in Miami. No humility at all in this man.

 

[Dejo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1490887868537278466

 

[remydat]

It emerged late because it was never announced they were actively interviewing him.

They hired him right after they "officially" interviewed him

Do you honestly think the Texans made a snap decision and never thought about Lovie as a HC candidate at all up until a day ago? You'd have to be a moron to believe that.

Is it possible that the Texans may have talked about it before hand or maybe spoke with their associated head coach without running it by you first.

Do I need to add you to the list of people who think nothing happens behind the scenes of an NFL team unless it exists on Twitter?

And yes he threw Lovie under the bus by saying he was the best candidate and Lovie only got the position because of the lawsuit. Its a disservice to Lovie. Frankly, Lovie has had a more successful NFL career than Flores. You are acting like it is some scientific, provable foregone conclusion that Flores would automatically get it.

Flores was an asshole for making that comment.

Lol, yeah it is possible they interviewed Bruce Wayne too. Anything is possible when you don't have a single news source claiming it.

Report: Saints are expected to interview Dennis Allen, Aaron Glenn

The Saints aren't wasting any time in trying to find a replacement for Sean Payton.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Here is the Saints announcing that they will interview their own internal candidate Dennis Allen over 2 weeks ago. So no I don't buy your bullshit trying to cover for the Texans. The same organization that was stupid enough to fire a guy after 1 year and then hire his Asst HC at the last minute. The same organization that was going to hire a guy who hadn't coached above high school.

Like you can't be this dense. It is obvious they were going to hire McCown but the NFL and the Texans knew they would get utterly destroyed in the media and add more fodder for the lawsuit if they hired a white guy that hasn't coached above HS over a qualified black candidate. Lovie literally only emerged as a candidate after McCown was removed as an option. But sure it is possible they interviewed him and Batman in secret.