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Leaning toward trading him is one thing. There's a case to be made for that, as I just did. But "he could get hurt" is not a reason.
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Listen, I was being facetious. The only way anyone leans towards @Mighty Joe Young is via gravitational pull.
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Do you even understand what his cap number is to a team that would trade for him? That team would be getting the #2 edge rusher in sacks last season for the #28 Edge rusher salary. They also would control him for 2 more seasons at their pleasure at a similar salary range with absolutely zero guaranteed. If anything his remaining contract is a bonus to trading him. Vonn Miller was rented for 8 games for a 2nd and 3rd.
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He doesn't realize but after he finishes his mcgriddles and reads your post he will find a way to further expose how much of a blowhard he is.
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Any players under the impression that they are going to contend next season are deluding themselves. I think it is widely understood that next season is a building season, not a raze the building type season, but a complete remodel.
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first off, pass rushers are more valuable than corners, history has shown this already...teams will pay more for pass rushers regardless of age as long as their productive. as for quinn he has no more gtd money on his deal so if a team does trade for him and doesnt work out they can just walk away. his cap hit is somewhere in the top 20 for edge rushers which isnt bad considering he was top 3 or top 5 in sacks last season. now regarding compensation he can net a 2nd rd pick...if a team doesnt offer it in the draft poles can likely get it at the trade deadline and more assuming quinn stays healthy and productive, teams that are vying for the playoffs will certainly pay a premium for a rusher like quinn.
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And someone having a different opinion than yours doesn't make them an idiot.
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I like the idea of dealing him during the season. We get some wins from him and then cash out with a pick and salary dump to a contender.
A 3rd now? I’m just not sold.
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This. No one is untradeable but he has value and if they can't get that, you keep him for a system he fits well. Doesn't matter what year. That value for me is at least a top 50 pick right now, where the draft tends to transition from top players. Sometimes it's just better to sit tight, even in transition years. The Bear are getting offers but I suspect Poles feels the same way and may want even more like that plus a 4 or a 2+3 if later round selections.
Teams are calling the Chicago Bears about trading for Robert Quinn
The Chicago Bears have been rumored to be shopping Robert Quinn since the Khalil Mack trade, but it was all speculation. Now rumors are teams are calling.
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Other than Brian Asamoah, I would love it! Skyy Moore all day!
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In most cases, I would agree with you. But there is a time and place where conventional wisdom does not apply, and I believe it is here.
Its the combination of trading Quinn, the Bears in a rebuild, AND this draft supposedly being very "middle" heavy - not a ton of top end talent, but supposedly a lot of second and third-round talent that could potentially extend into the fifth round.
What does holding onto Quinn do for the Bears exactly? Fans get to have a hard dick over a guy who is on the wrong side of 30 and had a career year coming back to a team that will be lucky to win more than 3 games with him, heading into the period of an NFL player's life where production drastically starts to decline and can fall off a cliff, meanwhile he's taking up cap space and when he does go, you get nothing for him?
For all the people who think I'm crazy, someone explain to me how the ABOVE makes total sense for a rebuilding team, and keep your personal feelings out of it?
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
Not in this situation. If we were talking about Roquan Smith here, then yeah, I'd get that. That's a guy whose young, good, should be peaking when this team is ready, and so if you WERE going to trade him, you damn sure better get a high value for him.
But we aren't talking about Smith. We're talking about Quinn - over 30, had a career year after a TERRIBLE one, and is soaking up a LOT of cap space. And as I said, this is supposedly a DEEP draft.
You wait until draft day, and then you trade Quinn for as much as you can get for him. There is NO POINT to being stubborn here. You draft right, you can get a potential starter or at least good contributor with the pick (even if it is low 3rd, high 4th, which is where I think it lands because of his contract), and the money you save can go toward another free agent who WILL help the team going forward next year.
This isn't about holding onto guys fans have a hard on for now. Its about team building. And that means looking beyond just next season.
You take whatever you can get for Quinn....
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Under most normal circumstances, I get it. But he makes too much money - no one is going to give up a 2nd for him unless people get desperate on draft day and there is a bidding war (which is why Poles is waiting until then).
But I don't think you wait - you do it draft day, because and only because this draft is supposedly deep - who knows if the scouts are right, but in the mocks I've seen, there's been a lot of value in rounds 3 and 4 - no one I'd call a superstar, but definitely potential starters in rounds where people are usually looking for depth...
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Sounds like a plan to me. Too bad there's only one L.A. Rams or else we could maybe get a 2nd and 3rd like Denver got for Miller.
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Er... You know Quinn isn't going to be on the team when the Bears do make that Superbowl run and that he likely will fall off in the next 2-3 years, right?
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