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Cubs could make a big offer for Fielder soon... Cubs/Fielder heating up.

The Cubs are increasing the intensity of their pursuit of Prince Fielder, according to Jerry Crasnick of ESPN.com.

The Cubs are gathering Fielder-related information and could make a big offer soon. CBS Sports' Jon Heyman reported that Fielder could be seeking Albert Pujols money; a 10-year contract in the range of $254 million. The Mariners, Rangers, Blue Jays, Nationals and Dodgers, amongst others, are also known to have interest. Fielder owns a stellar .929 career OPS and slugged 38 home runs this past year for Milwaukee.
 

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Report: Cubs are “not major players” for Prince Fielder

Drew Silva

Dec 15, 2011, 7:41 PM EST
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Contrary to recent reports, Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe is hearing that the Cubs are “not major players” for free agent first baseman Prince Fielder because they are “not ready to spend big.”

Cafardo is a Boston-based writer and his information goes against what has been reported by CBS Sports’ Jon Heyman, ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick and others, so there’s been some speculation that Cubs president Theo Epstein might have planted the thought in order to shroud his new club’s pursuit. But Cafardo isn’t just some guy. He’s regularly spot-on about trades and free agent signings from around the baseball world, and he has sources that stretch beyond Boston.

Fielder, 27, owns a fantastic .929 career OPS and slugged 38 home runs in 162 games this past year for Milwaukee. He’s also drawing interest from the Mariners, Rangers, Blue Jays, Nationals and Dodgers.
 

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Report: Cubs are “not major players” for Prince Fielder

Drew Silva

Dec 15, 2011, 7:41 PM EST
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Contrary to recent reports, Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe is hearing that the Cubs are “not major players” for free agent first baseman Prince Fielder because they are “not ready to spend big.”

Cafardo is a Boston-based writer and his information goes against what has been reported by CBS Sports’ Jon Heyman, ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick and others, so there’s been some speculation that Cubs president Theo Epstein might have planted the thought in order to shroud his new club’s pursuit. But Cafardo isn’t just some guy. He’s regularly spot-on about trades and free agent signings from around the baseball world, and he has sources that stretch beyond Boston.

Fielder, 27, owns a fantastic .929 career OPS and slugged 38 home runs in 162 games this past year for Milwaukee. He’s also drawing interest from the Mariners, Rangers, Blue Jays, Nationals and Dodgers.

butthurt boston.
 

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I find it hard to believe that boston papers are getting this info before cubs reporters.
 

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I find it hard to believe that boston papers are getting this info before cubs reporters.

The Boston media has been pissed since Epstien left.

Also I would not be shocked if Epstien was feeding them these stories to keep people guessing what he wants to do.

It is a clandestine organization now.
 

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The Boston media has been pissed since Epstien left.

Also I would not be shocked if Epstien was feeding them these stories to keep people guessing what he wants to do.

It is a clandestine organization now.

Bob Ryan and Peter Gammons I believe are officially on record saying "the cubs will never sign another free agent for the rest of their history."
 

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Bob Ryan and Peter Gammons I believe are officially on record saying "the cubs will never sign another free agent for the rest of their history."

Epstien is playing them to keep the Rangers and Mariners from really going crazy.

We need to remember Epstien is smarter than everyone.
 

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It is honestly starting to make my head hurt trying to figure out what Thed Hoystein is actually up to at this point (besides the fact that they did bid on Darvish, though at this point I wouldn't be shocked if the bid was 55 million or a dollar).
 

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Maybe once this Darvish thing has moved along we will get some serious movement on Fielder as it appears either the Cubs, Jays and Rangers will be falling out of the Prince derby.
 

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Maybe once this Darvish thing has moved along we will get some serious movement on Fielder as it appears either the Cubs, Jays and Rangers will be falling out of the Prince derby.

It makes sense that this would be part of the hold-up. Seeing who wins the rights to Darvish (and, subsequently, not winning the rights and freeing up money) will directly correlate w/ how much Prince can get.
 

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butthurt boston.

As I can agree with you that boston could be sour about epstein and what have you, remember one thing....they are in boston and outside of chicago. They may have some ill feelings, but they are NOT cub fans so they may be viewing this from the financial point of view and the most logical....when some of the chicago media are being blind to the fact that the cubs cannot afford 8-10 years on a 25 mil contract or what have you. In other words they arent drinking the kool aid since they are what they are, boston fans and not cub fans. but I do see where you would think they are butthurt, i dont argue that.
 

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also pull yourself back from being a cub fan, as a business owner who has suffered the small % of the fan base, and would continue to lose more and more...........wouldnt you place yourself in these big name rumors to make sure you cover yourself from a PR aspect. I never thought pujols for a second was coming here, and I feel the same about fielder still......but the casual fan could get sucked back in by all the rumors, buying the fact that there is this hope for this team, that ownership WANTS to win at all costs. The idea of something great is always better than the final product......that is how real business works.
 

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The whole Cubs can't afford :insert player here: argument is bunk.
 

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As I can agree with you that boston could be sour about epstein and what have you, remember one thing....they are in boston and outside of chicago. They may have some ill feelings, but they are NOT cub fans so they may be viewing this from the financial point of view and the most logical....when some of the chicago media are being blind to the fact that the cubs cannot afford 8-10 years on a 25 mil contract or what have you. In other words they arent drinking the kool aid since they are what they are, boston fans and not cub fans. but I do see where you would think they are butthurt, i dont argue that.

Why can't we afford Fielder? We have room in the payroll this year, next year, and for the next 50 years.
 

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also pull yourself back from being a cub fan, as a business owner who has suffered the small % of the fan base, and would continue to lose more and more...........wouldnt you place yourself in these big name rumors to make sure you cover yourself from a PR aspect. I never thought pujols for a second was coming here, and I feel the same about fielder still......but the casual fan could get sucked back in by all the rumors, buying the fact that there is this hope for this team, that ownership WANTS to win at all costs. The idea of something great is always better than the final product......that is how real business works.

How would we continue to lose more and more? We'd be signing a superstar. That brings fans to the park and it betters the team.
 

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Fielder should be Cubs' player to lose

Based on what we know — and admittedly, we know only so much — the Cubs are the front-runners to sign Prince Fielder.

No one should schedule a news conference at Wrigley Field. These negotiations might only be in their early stages. But if this is Cubs vs. Mariners — and that’s certainly the way it looks at the moment — the Cubs make far more sense.

Neither the Rangers nor Marlins will bid on Fielder, according to major league sources. The Orioles, as my colleague Jon Paul Morosi wrote earlier this week, are the eastern version of the Mariners, a non-contender that would be viable only if Fielder lacked better options.

The Cubs aren’t exactly contenders themselves, but few in the industry doubt that new club president Theo Epstein and general manager Jed Hoyer will transform them into a force in short order.

Yet, if anyone thinks that the Cubs are a lock for Fielder, they weren’t paying attention when the Angels, seemingly out of nowhere, signed Albert Pujols to a 10-year, $254 million contract.

And they certainly haven’t been paying attention to the cloak-and-dagger negotiating style of Fielder’s agent, Scott Boras, over the years.

“Scott can usually pull a rabbit out of his hat,” one executive said.

The Mariners, a franchise desperately in need of a jolt, could be that rabbit.

But does Fielder, 27, want to play for a team coming off back-to-back last-place finishes, a team with a laughably inept offense, a team that is the farthest of the 30 major league clubs from his home in Orlando, Fla.?

If the price is right, maybe.

And never mind that one of the Mariners’ all-time greats, Ken Griffey Jr., eventually pressured the M’s into trading him to the Reds so he could be closer to his home in Orlando.

Boras generally excels at exploiting the market to maximum advantage — or, to put it bluntly, finding the one dumb owner.

Fielder to the Mariners would be the sport’s most blatant money grab since Alex Rodriguez went to the Rangers for $252 million. That contract was Boras’ Mona Lisa. But after three years, A-Rod wanted out.

Fielder could make the same mistake, lauding the Mariners’ young pitching the way A-Rod once lauded the Rangers’ farm system, if he did not receive better offers.

Then again, Fielder might be content to wait.

“He’s not in a rush,” a friend of Fielder’s said Thursday night. “If he gets a great deal soon, awesome. If not, there is no one like him on the market. Some team is going to come get him.”

Maybe some team that is more competitive than the Mariners — and more eager than the Cubs to meet his terms.

The Cubs, sources say, do not want to give Fielder a 10-year contract, even though Pujols commanded a deal of that length despite being nearly 4-1/2 years older. Some teams, concerned by Fielder’s body, would prefer him on a shorter, high-dollar deal.

Thus, the Cubs’ preference likely is six or seven years, and you can bet that Boras would love to beat Pujols’ average annual salary of $25.4 million. Boras also wants an opt-out clause, according to a major league source.

Say the Cubs offered Fielder seven years at $25.5 million per season — $178.5 million, guaranteed. The Mariners or some other team could trump that bid with a nine- or 10-year offer at a slightly lower base salary.

Some executives still expect Fielder to hear from the Nationals, the preferred ATM of the Scott Boras Corporation in recent years. If not the Nationals, then perhaps some other club will fall for Boras’ sales pitch: that after Fielder, precious few young sluggers will be available in the next several free-agent classes.

The point is legitimate. Epstein and Hoyer are well aware of the landscape. And while the Cubs are retooling, Fielder is young enough to build around.

At some point, the Cubs are going to need a hitter like Fielder. Why wait two years for Reds first baseman Joey Votto to hit the market or five for Marlins right fielder Mike Stanton, particularly when both could end up elsewhere?

That’s the logic behind the Cubs' interest in Fielder, but after all of Epstein’s poor experiences with the Red Sox in free agency, it would be a shock if he went 10 years.

An opening exists with Fielder, much as an opening existed with Pujols when the Cardinals would not meet his price and the Marlins would not grant him a no-trade clause.

Might an Angel surface for Fielder? Quite possibly.

Until then, he’s the Cubs’ player to lose.

Logic says Chicago Cubs should win Prince Fielder race, but can Theo Epstein nurture deal? - MLB News | FOX Sports on MSN
 
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