**Official** Training Camp News & Scheisse [Football Talk Only]

[Dejo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1552348102106963970

 

[remydat]

Again. I have no problem with it.

My only problem is with the “oh but he may get injured” whining.

Yes and my response is the team whine about the risk of injury as well hence why they don't fully guarantee all contracts. You just want to excuse that because they got their whining embedded within the CBA.

 

[Montucky]

This is more bullshit. Quan would have been a FA earlier without the 5th year option and would have more than 10m a year if he had was allowed to be a FA agent. The 5th year option benefits the team not the player. They don't execute the 5th year option unless they think a player is worth it. See your favorite QB as an example.

The fifth year options are exercised after a player's third year. Had last season been a disaster or Smith suffered an injury he'd still be good for the ten million. That's why he wasn't whining or holding out last year, his contract situation was pretty great for a player just entering his fourth year.

Now he's being asked to prove it before he's paid just once in his NFL career and he won't practice. And QB's are different since they make multiples more money than MLB's do. Its worth paying ten million dollars for a quarterback who might be good, let alone actually is.

 

[Dejo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1552356860879060992

 

[dennehy]

Shaquille Leonard is the gold standard at the position and he's averaging significantly less than a fifteen million a year over the four years of his contract that he'll actually play. Roquan Smith is no Shaquille Leonard, or at least hasn't been thus far in his career.

If he play four years on his current deal he will get paid about $63m, almost $16m per year on average.

 

[onebud34]

Shaquille Leonard is the gold standard at the position and he's averaging significantly less than a fifteen million a year over the four years of his contract that he'll actually play. Roquan Smith is no Shaquille Leonard, or at least hasn't been thus far in his career.

What is your parameter of significant?

 

[Dejo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1552329758221996033

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1552351296178765825

Quinn for Deebo loading.

 

[Dejo]

For those Mims trade fans

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1552317230100238336

 

[Montucky]

What is your parameter of significant?

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He averages like thirteen and a half million his first four years. I don't know about you but that million and a half dollars is a significant amount of money.

 

[Dejo]

lol salty ?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1552354593576783874

 

[Montucky]

Oops, my bad. I looked at yearly salary and not total cash. That's on me.

Still, if Roquan Smith would like to be paid like Shaquille Leonard he should start by actually playing like Shaquille Leonard. So far he hasn't.

 

[remydat]

Shaquille Leonard is the gold standard at the position and he's averaging significantly less than a fifteen million a year over the four years of his contract that he'll actually play. Roquan Smith is no Shaquille Leonard, or at least hasn't been thus far in his career.

Um no. He gets 78.8 million over first 4 years which is 19.7 million. If you want to claim he only plays 3 years of the extension then that is still 59.25 over those 3 years or 19.75 per year. You may have been including the last year of his rookie deal but that is stupid as we are talking about the new money he received by signing an extension.

Its a near certainty that he's healthy and the Bears are accomodating him because they don't want to make a huge deal of it. If he were actually hurt we'd have some details about it by now.

Which is their right under the CBA so again the point still remains. Both sides worry about injuries and both sides will negotiate using whatever leverage and tactics they have.

Oops, my bad. I looked at yearly salary and not total cash. That's on me.

Still, if Roquan Smith would like to be paid like Shaquille Leonard he should start by actually playing like Shaquille Leonard. So far he hasn't.

He was in a different scheme while Leonard is in a scheme that was built for WILLs. In any event we don't know exactly how much he wants hence why I said he is worth between 15-20m a year. If he wants Leonard money then quite happy to trade him.

 

[onebud34]

He averages like thirteen and a half million his first four years. I don't know about you but that million and a half dollars is a significant amount of money.

It's not that significant though if you're talking over 4 years of a 53 mil guaranteed contract

 

[Spitta Andretti]

So all that Quinn wanting out talk was BS.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1552356860879060992

Agree 100%. Let’s see it.

 

[onebud34]

So all that Quinn wanting out talk was BS.

Puff piece slow offseason material

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

So all that Quinn wanting out talk was BS.

Or he’s just keeping it private and biding his time.

 

[Spitta Andretti]

Or he’s just keeping it private and biding his time.

He could have been a little more vague if that was the case. But to specifically state that you're tired of moving and you want to be here, is more than that

My opinion anyway

 

[remydat]

He probably wants to make sure that if he is traded, it is to a team he wants to go to. Similar to how Poles did Mack a solid.