Official Zambrano News Updates Thread

[Rice Cube]

CO is our pimp daddy son

I find it funny that even in his MLB.com headshot, Campana still wears his cap like a wigger.

 

[Uman85]

I find it funny that even in his MLB.com headshot, Campana still wears his cap like a wigger.

It's too big for his head. Lol

 

[Rice Cube]

It's too big for his head. Lol

I'm surprised he doesn't get lost in his hat when he's playing the outfield.

When he bats he looks like the Great Gazoo.

 

[Captain Obvious]

If the Cubs were to actually pay the players based upon actual worth/ performance, it would be peanuts. No one on that entire team would be getting more than 7 million dollars. And that's for Garza.

If he comes back, his contract needs to be voided since he just walked out on it to begin with, so have him as a number 3 or 4 for like 6 million.

**** that 16 or whatever the hell it is that he's supposed to get.

And while we're at it, give Fonzie and Ramirez the 45 cents they're worth.

Yeah Ramirez is worth 45 cents. God damn him and his .379 wOBA! It's only the best out of all 3B in baseball. What a piece of shit.

Zambrano is a headcase, not a cancer. Milton Bradley was more of a cancer to the team.

That being said, why not bring up WS titles in your argument?

Do you really think that the cancers being cancers effected their teams in that 7 game series?

I see your Zambrano and raise you a John Rocker. ATL made the playoffs with him.

He was doing an Obama facepalm because of the fact that you don't seem to care about him being a nutcase at all.

And he isn't even really average anymore.

I don't care that he is a nutcase. Why should I? If he is good enough to provide even a little value, I don't care. Whether or not he is good enough, IDK. But if he is, who cares if he eats raw animals or drinks his own piss? I don't.

Sorry, none of them ever did anything compared to what this jackass does. They didn't fight teammates, walk out on them or destroy things because they can't control their temper.

I played baseball for 14 years and trust me, although you don't need the same chemistry that a football or basketball team might have, a guy like this will do more harm than good in the clubhouse. I believe most current or former baseball players will tell you that. If they don't, they're lying or don't care about the team.

So I guess Yadier Molina wouldn't be welcomed on this team, since he fought his teammate?

I'm glad that you played baseball for 14 years. I'm proud of you for that. How many of those were at a professional level? If the answer is none, which I'm almost sure that it is, I don't see how you are providing any insight into this. These guys do get paid to be there, afterall.

 

[Captain Obvious]

The difference was that Ortiz and Manny were MVPs.

Zambrano is scraping as a 3rd starter the last 2+ years.

But if he still provides value, they are in the same boat and it shouldn't matter. I don't know how much the Cubs value him, so I can't say. I think a lot of whether or not he comes back depends on how many we can save, if we can save anything. But if we can't save anything, I want his ass on that field because he can still provide us value and that's better than nothing.

The Red Sox won in '04 because they were loaded with talent. zambrano is not loaded with talent. The Sox were an anomaly. They won despite the attitudes of the players. All that said, that's not the right way to assemble a baseball team. Another reason why I sincerely dislike Boston. You want a consistent winner/contender, you bring in talented guys who want to win and aren't going to be a distraction or a problem for your organization.

Yup. Loaded with talent is the wrong way.

Oh and uh, I'm pretty sure the Red Sox have been a consistent winner/contender. Where have you been the last 10 years?

What's you next prediction CO, Randy Wells wins 25 games?

Do you post anything of value?

 

[Uman85]

I'm glad that you played baseball for 14 years. I'm proud of you for that. How many of those were at a professional level? If the answer is none, which I'm almost sure that it is, I don't see how you are providing any insight into this. These guys do get paid to be there, afterall.

Had I not been injured, the answer would be 4 going on 5 years right now. There's obviously no arguing with you since every Cubs player is a HOFer, so I'll just say this. The sooner this team rids itself of zambrano, the sooner they begin their process of becoming a contender. Period.

 

[EnjoyYourTiger]

Lol, CO, when does Ramirez start hitting, oh, like the middle of the year when we're 20 games out and it doesn't mean shit. If he was actually clutch every now and then towards the beginning of the year, sure. He doesn't produce with RISP and when we actually need him to.

 

[nwfisch]

Do you really think that the cancers being cancers effected their teams in that 7 game series?

I see your Zambrano and raise you a John Rocker. ATL made the playoffs with him.



I don't care that he is a nutcase. Why should I? If he is good enough to provide even a little value, I don't care. Whether or not he is good enough, IDK. But if he is, who cares if he eats raw animals or drinks his own piss? I don't.



So I guess Yadier Molina wouldn't be welcomed on this team, since he fought his teammate?

Oh great the Braves reached the playoffs

They reached them 14 years in a row.

Is the world series a foreign language? I give you a tip on how to make a fair baseball argument

The difference between Zambrano and Molina is that Molina is still good and Zambrano isn't. Between down velocity, increased ERA, and not pitching deep into games, Zambrano has declined not only emotionally, but his pitching as well.

 

[Uman85]

Oh and uh, I'm pretty sure the Red Sox have been a consistent winner/contender. Where have you been the last 10 years?

10 years ago, the Sox were on an 85-year WS drought. You were 6 years-old and probably still thought you were a know-it-all. I'd hate to be a fan of any team that had the misfortune of having you as a GM.

:lmao:

 

[Capt. Serious]

CO needs plenty of this..

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[Captain Obvious]

Had I not been injured, the answer would be 4 going on 5 years right now. There's obviously no arguing with you since every Cubs player is a HOFer, so I'll just say this. The sooner this team rids itself of zambrano, the sooner they begin their process of becoming a contender. Period.

But you did get injured, so the answer is 0. How am I even remotely defending Z other than saying that I think he is better than what he performed this year? All I have said is that if he provides us value to keep him.

Lol, CO, when does Ramirez start hitting, oh, like the middle of the year when we're 20 games out and it doesn't mean shit. If he was actually clutch every now and then towards the beginning of the year, sure. He doesn't produce with RISP and when we actually need him to.

.291 BA w/ RISP. .917 OPS. Yeah, he sucks. In high leverage situations, he has a .320 BA with a .368 OBP. He is still performing well and it's not like whenever we have been in a race he just sucks. I'm sorry, but that is a bad argument to make.

 

[dabynsky]

Lol, CO, when does Ramirez start hitting, oh, like the middle of the year when we're 20 games out and it doesn't mean shit. If he was actually clutch every now and then towards the beginning of the year, sure. He doesn't produce with RISP and when we actually need him to.

Why do you guys insist on repeating this argument? It isn't supported by evidence.*

*I can finish this discussion at this point on my own. I will point out how he has played meaningful games. The response to that will be that in the 6 postseason games of 07 and 08 he sucked. And we will go back and forth on whether or not that means he only puts up numbers when it doesn't matter.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Oh great the Braves reached the playoffs

They reached them 14 years in a row.

Is the world series a foreign language? I give you a tip on how to make a fair baseball argument

The difference between Zambrano and Molina is that Molina is still good and Zambrano isn't. Between down velocity, increased ERA, and not pitching deep into games, Zambrano has declined not only emotionally, but his pitching as well.

I am not disagreeing with any of that. What I am saying that you don't understand is that if Z has any value to the team, you bring him back. Whether or not he is good doesn't matter as long as he can bring back value.

No, the world series is not a foreign language. I brought up players who won a world series despite being a cancer to their teams.

10 years ago, the Sox were on an 85-year WS drought. You were 6 years-old and probably still thought you were a know-it-all. I'd hate to be a fan of any team that had the misfortune of having you as a GM.

:lmao:

In the last 10 years means not just 10 years ago, but also 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, and one year ago. In the last 10 years the Red Sox have won 2 World Series'. They have also made the playoffs 6/10 years in the hardest division in baseball. That's pretty impressive. Not to mention, they havent been worse than 3rd in that division.

 

[nwfisch]

Why do you guys insist on repeating this argument? It isn't supported by evidence.*

*I can finish this discussion at this point on my own. I will point out how he has played meaningful games. The response to that will be that in the 6 postseason games of 07 and 08 he sucked. And we will go back and forth on whether or not that means he only puts up numbers when it doesn't matter.

Oh boy

Rammy's had great regular seasons since he came here, but when the Cubs have been bad, he's gotten off to relatively slow starts, and this year when the Cubs needed him to go early, he didn't until the Cubs were 15 under. To me they are mostly empty stats.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Oh boy

Rammy's had great regular seasons since he came here, but when the Cubs have been bad, he's gotten off to relatively slow starts, and this year when the Cubs needed him to go early, he didn't until the Cubs were 15 under. To me they are mostly empty stats.

Do you really think that had Rammy been this good all year we would really be that much better? I don't. He's only one guy. This years biggest problem has been the starting rotation staying healthy/off the disqualified list.

 

[Rice Cube]

Oh boy

Rammy's had great regular seasons since he came here, but when the Cubs have been bad, he's gotten off to relatively slow starts, and this year when the Cubs needed him to go early, he didn't until the Cubs were 15 under. To me they are mostly empty stats.

Never mind that the rest of the team kinda sucked to start the season :lol: This team wasn't going anywhere with or without Ramirez.

 

[EnjoyYourTiger]

I'm sure those stats you just rattled off about AVG w/ RISP are career. I would agree that over all, Ramirez has been a great 3B for the Cubs.

BUT RIGHT NOW HE SUCKS MORE THAN A WHORE IN A BROTHEL AND IS GETTING PAID TOO MUCH FOR IT, WHICH HAS BEEN MY POINT ALL NIGHT.

 

[EnjoyYourTiger]

Do you really think that had Rammy been this good all year we would really be that much better? I don't. He's only one guy. This years biggest problem has been the starting rotation staying healthy/off the disqualified list.

Never mind that the rest of the team kinda sucked to start the season :lol: This team wasn't going anywhere with or without Ramirez.

That's not my point. My point is that he's being paid far too much for what he's doing.

Cubs suck. Case closed. Ramirez hitting wouldn't have changed that drastically.

We'd still suck.

But at least I wouldn't be upset that he'd be getting paid obscene amounts of money for actually doing something.

 

[Rice Cube]

That's not my point. My point is that he's being paid far too much for what he's doing.

Cubs suck. Case closed. Ramirez hitting wouldn't have changed that drastically.

We'd still suck.

But at least I wouldn't be upset that he'd be getting paid obscene amounts of money for actually doing something.

He is actually doing something though. It's the bulk of the team that's not doing anything and that's why the team sucks. Yeah, he sucked to start the year, but most everyone else sucked too. *shrug*

 

[Captain Obvious]

I'm sure those stats you just rattled off about AVG w/ RISP are career. I would agree that over all, Ramirez has been a great 3B for the Cubs.

BUT RIGHT NOW HE SUCKS MORE THAN A WHORE IN A BROTHEL AND IS GETTING PAID TOO MUCH FOR IT, WHICH HAS BEEN MY POINT ALL NIGHT.

They aren't career. Just 2011.

He really doesn't suck at all. In fact, he's been a top 3 3B this year in the MLB.

That's not my point. My point is that he's being paid far too much for what he's doing.

Cubs suck. Case closed. Ramirez hitting wouldn't have changed that drastically.

We'd still suck.

But at least I wouldn't be upset that he'd be getting paid obscene amounts of money for actually doing something.

I agree that he is getting paid too much, but you're acting like he's getting Z's money with Z's performance. That's not true. He's actually quite valuable to this team. I don't really think that that is that hard to see.

He's been a 3.5 WAR player for 14.6 million. That's really about right what 3.5 is worth.