OT: Justin Fields’ Destination Thread, Steelers and other teams reportedly want him to sign new multi-year contract

[TexasBearfan]

i think fields best chance is Indy, I don't think he's played w a back as good as Taylor and that would help if they ran a play action thing w him which he's decent with on his first and only read

 

[jsu34]

I mustve missed Tomlin benching Wilson for his poor play for fields who was still on the team and a viable option to replace a struggling qb and Jumpstart the offense

Got nothing to do with it. You don't plan next season based on last season.

Would you rather keep Watt, Pickens, Hightower, and get Higgins or pay Russ?

Sorry if prioritizing keeping their main stars over Russ seems like the wrong choice for you.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Got nothing to do with it. You don't plan next season based on last season.

Would you rather keep Watt, Pickens, Hightower, and get Higgins or pay Russ?

Sorry if prioritizing keeping their main stars over Russ seems like the wrong choice for you.

Steelers would rather keep russ and keep taking swings in the draft. They clearly weren't confident in fields

 

[msadows]

Steelers would rather keep russ and keep taking swings in the draft. They clearly weren't confident in fields

Dont think the steelers are that stupid.

Russ provides zero upside, he had a lower total EPA than justin fields and played much more. He had a few good games but so would have every NFL QB.

Justin actually provided a net positive expected points added, russ was -11 on the season.

The team is clearly trending in the wrong direction, so the smart move would be to pay a guy on a one year deal who fits arthur smith's scheme better and draft another QB who fits arthur smiths scheme(milroe). Both have upside versus marching out an even older and worse russ.

If i'm justin tho, I go somewhere I have a chance for a fresh start. That steelers team looks like it might get dysfunctional next year if they dont start out hot. My guess is that the jets would be a good fit.

 

[--CyBear--]

I think last year was a great situation for Fields and that it was better for his long term success to sit behind Wilson most of the year and get his chance to see a vet navigate, even if Wilson isn't all that anymore. That said, I'm not sure he's the best fit for his OC though that can be overcome.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Look, I always liked fields, but it's become pretty clear how the league feels about him. He had no trade value last year, steelers chose to start and mediocre russ over him because they felt it improved the passing offense, and now he's going to be a FA and has 0 buzz around the league as a coveted qb target.

I'd love if he got a chance somewhere and think he's better than guys like Anthony Richardson but the league clearly has a different opinion of him.

 

[DefNextYear]

Look, I always liked fields, but it's become pretty clear how the league feels about him. He had no trade value last year, steelers chose to start and mediocre russ over him because they felt it improved the passing offense, and now he's going to be a FA and has 0 buzz around the league as a coveted qb target.

I'd love if he got a chance somewhere and think he's better than guys like Anthony Richardson but the league clearly has a different opinion of him.

Richardson may be a one and done when his contract is up. I don’t even see the point to rostering that dude.

 

[oso4lyf]

We're still waiting for the correct OC to "unlock" Fields?

 

[Moses Moreno]

You think him hitching his wagon to Fields is that much smarter?

Yes.

You mean built the offense around 2,000 yard rusher Saquon Barkley. He went for 2903 18 and 5.

If the Chiefs get up by 14 it's over quick. If it becomes a shoot out it's over. The Eagles beat up on two bad QBs and one rookie.

I don't know why the entire NFL fails to realize that it's all about the QB.

What are you fucking talking about you dipshit?

Saquon was on the Giants when Steichen was with the Eagles. Steichen is with the Colts.

 

[msadows]

Look, I always liked fields, but it's become pretty clear how the league feels about him. He had no trade value last year, steelers chose to start and mediocre russ over him because they felt it improved the passing offense, and now he's going to be a FA and has 0 buzz around the league as a coveted qb target.

I'd love if he got a chance somewhere and think he's better than guys like Anthony Richardson but the league clearly has a different opinion of him.

FA has not started, so we dont know what his value is outside speculation. Outside of darnold he's likely the best option available and will come much much cheaper.

The trade value thing was tanked by how ryan poles handled it. Teams knew the bears needed to get rid of fields. Its also possible they had better offers on the board but let fields choose where he wanted to go.

I dont expect him to ever develop but he's a much better option than starting an ancient russ wilson. Either guy would be a bridge to a young QB no matter where they go, and fields clearly has much higher upside.

 

[jsu34]

Steelers would rather keep russ and keep taking swings in the draft. They clearly weren't confident in fields

Sounds more like your opinion based on how you feel about Fields.

They went 4-2 with him and 6-5 with Russ. Not a 45 million difference.

They will likely address qb through the draft anyway no matter which direction they go.

But they have too many other key players to pay to do what you suggest plus go after key positions of need like Tee Higgins.

It's basic football, man.

 

[Moses Moreno]

Look, I always liked fields, but it's become pretty clear how the league feels about him. He had no trade value last year, steelers chose to start and mediocre russ over him because they felt it improved the passing offense, and now he's going to be a FA and has 0 buzz around the league as a coveted qb target.

I'd love if he got a chance somewhere and think he's better than guys like Anthony Richardson but the league clearly has a different opinion of him.

FA buzz hasn't started, we've got a few weeks to see how the NFL feels about Justin if/when he hits FA. Russ was promised the job, that's why Pickett threw a hissy fit and got himself out of there.

The NFL's evaluation of Fields/the 2023 Chicago Bears offense was clearly wrong:
-Getsy got a job and was fired how many games into the season? Stock down for Getsy
-Bears were hyped beyond belief with 2 elite weapons and the 1st overall pick - by every metric the offense was worse and Caleb was a disappointment (because of the shit offensive line that Justin also suffered from) - Stock down for the Bears support structure
-Fields started 6 games this year, went 4-2, beat two playoff teams and was benched for Russ who finished on a 5 game losing streak after starting 6-1 - that's gotta be stock up for Justin considering he managed the game better than Russ did (less INTS, less fumbles, better in the RZ)

 

[jsu34]

We're still waiting for the correct OC to "unlock" Fields?

It's not about unlocking Fields. It’s whether think paying Russ 50 million.
Especially when there other players they need to pay. And don't forget about when FA starts. They want another weapon on the outside, and it appears they want Higgins.

They are going to draft a young qb regardless.

 

[dennehy]

Sounds more like your opinion based on how you feel about Fields.

They went 4-2 with him and 6-5 with Russ. Not a 45 million difference.

They will likely address qb through the draft anyway no matter which direction they go.

But they have too many other key players to pay to do what you suggest plus go after key positions of need like Tee Higgins.

It's basic football, man.

If Russ isn't really better than Field, why is he going to cost so much more?

 

[msadows]

If Russ isn't really better than Field, why is he going to cost so much more?

I dont think he will, not sure any team is going to want him as a starting QB this year.

Maybe whichever team drafts shadeur/cam ward decides to let them sit behind a vet

I know if i ran an NFL team i'd rather even have washed ass rodgers/cousins over russ.

 

[DefNextYear]

If Russ isn't really better than Field, why is he going to cost so much more?

I see this argument as something so broken. I saw Chase Daniel arguing Russ will cost 40 million and Fields will cost 5 million. That’s absurdly skewed to strengthen his argument that Fields makes more sense. In reality, Russ may get 20 ish (I assume pretty likely under 30) and Fields will get at least something more than Darnold got last year (more than 10 million). So, I do believe Russ will get more, but it won’t he night and day. And I believe Russ is more concerned about opportunity at this state in his career and will take less for a real opportunity to win vs rotting away on a shit roster. Only exception may be Raiders cause the ties to the Carroll.

 

[--CyBear--]

Sounds more like your opinion based on how you feel about Fields.

They went 4-2 with him and 6-5 with Russ. Not a 45 million difference.

They will likely address qb through the draft anyway no matter which direction they go.

But they have too many other key players to pay to do what you suggest plus go after key positions of need like Tee Higgins.

It's basic football, man.

True but 4 of 5 of Wilson's losses were against the Eagles, Cheifs, Bengals, and Ravens when they were rolling. Wilson's other loss was to the Browns where he threw for 270 at a 117 rating. Fields 2 losses were to the Colts and Cowboys.

 

[jsu34]

If Russ isn't really better than Field, why is he going to cost so much more?

They've estimated he will be worth 40. Some say 30.

However Fields won't get anywhere near that.

This is not my opinion on this, folks. You all have Google.

Just look up what it'll likely cost to sign Russ. This isnt Madden.

 

[dennehy]

They've estimated he will be worth 40. Some say 30.

However Fields won't get anywhere near that.

This is not my opinion on this, folks. You all have Google.

Just look up what it'll likely cost to sign Russ. This isnt Madden.

Well you obviously buy the estimate or you wouldn't use it.

Of course at $40m it's stupid. But it's kinda funny that everyone thinks he sucks but an NFL GM is going to give him 8x what they're going to give Fields.

 

[jsu34]

And for further math:

Fields will likely sign for something like 13.

Russ will be 30-40.

Not my opinion, just the way things are.

They have to pay some of their other key players, and bring in others. I keep saying Higgins because that's the local buzz.