OT: Justin Fields’ Destination Thread, Steelers and other teams reportedly want him to sign new multi-year contract

Moses Moreno

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It's almost embarrassing that this guy is arguing like there was some contractual agreement to play Wilson over fields, no matter the outcome. Tomlin pretty clearly preferred what Wilson brought to the passing game.
He preferred what Wilson represents (an arguable all time great QB with a Super Bowl ring) and Justin already had accepted his benching - benching Russ would have burned the bridge with him and if Justin failed miserably he would be left with no options.

Now the Steelers have two options this off-season - we'll see who they choose.

I'd be shocked if they went with Russell considering his age, pricetag and poor play but we live in a world in which there appears to be no shortage of stupidity.
 

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You mean built the offense around 2,000 yard rusher Saquon Barkley. He went for 2903 18 and 5.

If the Chiefs get up by 14 it's over quick. If it becomes a shoot out it's over. The Eagles beat up on two bad QBs and one rookie.

I don't know why the entire NFL fails to realize that it's all about the QB.
I agree it's all about the QB. But how do you come to the conclusion "the entire NFL fails to realize that" when teams are doing everything they can to get QBs, and the entire talk around the NFL for years has been that it's all about the QB?

Do you honestly believe you and you alone have this secret code?
 

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Sounds more like your opinion based on how you feel about Fields.

They went 4-2 with him and 6-5 with Russ. Not a 45 million difference.
Wow, we've come full circle when people are citing Justin Fields' win/loss record. Now he's 14-30 as a starting NFL QB. I guess the bar is so low for Fields that the highlight of his career is winning a few games for the Steelers as a stopgap QB. Any team that proactively makes Justin Fields their opening day starting QB for 2025 would be out of their minds.
 

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Wow, we've come full circle when people are citing Justin Fields' win/loss record. Now he's 14-30 as a starting NFL QB. I guess the bar is so low for Fields that the highlight of his career is winning a few games for the Steelers as a stopgap QB. Any team that proactively makes Justin Fields their opening day starting QB for 2025 would be out of their minds.

You like a 37 year old hobbled Kirk Cousins or a 41 year old equally hobbled and crazy Aaron Rodgers more?

How about a 36 year old, small, slow and expensive Russell Wilson?

Sam Darnold on a $30M+/year contract sound good?

Jaemis?

He's the 19th FA on PFF and 32nd on ESPN - there aren't a ton of viable options and certainly nobody with the upside that Fields possesses.
 

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He preferred what Wilson represents (an arguable all time great QB with a Super Bowl ring) and Justin already had accepted his benching - benching Russ would have burned the bridge with him and if Justin failed miserably he would be left with no options.

Now the Steelers have two options this off-season - we'll see who they choose.
This is something you made up to make it make sense to you. There is zero evidence to actually believe it though. What makes more sense is the obvious: Tomlin thought Wilson gave them a better chance to win, because that is how the vast majority of decisions are made in the NFL. Not to say he was right.

And I doubt that he was thinking about 2025 too hard, because neither option is really very good. Maybe Rooney was but that has little to do with Tomlin during the season.

Finally the Steelers don't just get to choose, both those guys are UFA.
 

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This is something you made up to make it make sense to you. There is zero evidence to actually believe it though. What makes more sense is the obvious: Tomlin thought Wilson gave them a better chance to win, because that is how the vast majority of decisions are made in the NFL. Not to say he was right.

And I doubt that he was thinking about 2025 too hard, because neither option is really very good. Maybe Rooney was but that has little to do with Tomlin during the season.

Finally the Steelers don't just get to choose, both those guys are UFA.

After their W over the Browns - they had 3 games in 10 days, Pickens came back in the middle of that stretch and Fields was dinged up.

Literally there was no off-ramp. They stuck with Russell and went 0-5.

Both guys are UFA but the Steelers have publicly said they want to sign one of Fields/Wilson to a multi-year contract before FA hits to stabilize their QB room. We'll see over the next 4-5 weeks what's up.
 

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You like a 37 year old hobbled Kirk Cousins or a 41 year old equally hobbled and crazy Aaron Rodgers more?

How about a 36 year old, small, slow and expensive Russell Wilson?

Sam Darnold on a $30M+/year contract sound good?

Jaemis?

He's the 19th FA on PFF and 32nd on ESPN - there aren't a ton of viable options and certainly nobody with the upside that Fields possesses.
Fields has more upside than Sam Darnold now? I will be surprised if an NFL team signs Fields a their starting QB for 2025. I could be wrong.
 

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After their W over the Browns - they had 3 games in 10 days, Pickens came back in the middle of that stretch and Fields was dinged up.

Literally there was no off-ramp. They stuck with Russell and went 0-5.

Both guys are UFA but the Steelers have publicly said they want to sign one of Fields/Wilson to a multi-year contract before FA hits to stabilize their QB room. We'll see over the next 4-5 weeks what's up.
He gave them the best chance to win. Pretty simple. that is much different from the argument you used in your previous post.

Yep, we'll see. I'd test the market if I was either of them unless you get a significant overpay.
 

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Wow, we've come full circle when people are citing Justin Fields' win/loss record. Now he's 14-30 as a starting NFL QB. I guess the bar is so low for Fields that the highlight of his career is winning a few games for the Steelers as a stopgap QB. Any team that proactively makes Justin Fields their opening day starting QB for 2025 would be out of their minds.
Wrong. Just wrong.

Fields isn't the next coming or anything like that, but if the Steelers sign him I won't question them because I have no emotion when it comes to him.

However it seems people here seem triggered at the mere thought of the guy playing qb on another team.
 

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However it seems people here seem triggered at the mere thought of the guy playing qb on another team.
Exactly. Some of these guys loose their mind if anything positive is posted about Justin Fields.

It’s extremely weird.
 

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Wrong. Just wrong.

Fields isn't the next coming or anything like that, but if the Steelers sign him I won't question them because I have no emotion when it comes to him.

However it seems people here seem triggered at the mere thought of the guy playing qb on another team.
And did we forget that Fields was QB during a complete tear down and rebuild??… and that he was coached by quite possibly the worst HC in the league who, as we saw during the time Fields was here, and last year with Caleb, our HC (Flus) single-handedly cost us perfectly winnable games. During Fields’ time here, the Denver and Cleveland games come to mind (if memory serves) —- games won… only to be lost by a piss poor defense that let those teams back into the game. The Mooney drop of an easy game winning TD pass is another. And the Mooney batted ball drop was another winning play only to be squandered. I could go on and on….

Despite all of this we want to put his record around his neck as if it was all his doing? Not fair/not right. The guy was 4 and 2 in Pitt and now that fan base realizes what they had and the consensus seems to be they want him back over Russ. Time will tell.

Personally, I would like to see him go elsewhere — test the market. A guy that young, with all that talent who was mishandled from day 1 of his arrival in Chicago, will be an intriguing option for a lot of teams… particularly teams that think good coaching may unlock him into being the true monster many once predicated that he would be.
 

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Yes, in the NFL you can never expect coaches to do what gives them the best chance to win. Good point. He did have the chance to start, but they didn't have to continue to start him. But they did.

And I like Justin Fields, I'm just not obsessed with him and willing to suspend disbelief because of that.
Like I said, it’s obvious to unbiased people that Russ signed in Pittsburgh because he was promised the starting job.

You’re biased and obsessed with negativity when it comes to Fields, so you’re going to always express a particular viewpoint.
 

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You like a 37 year old hobbled Kirk Cousins or a 41 year old equally hobbled and crazy Aaron Rodgers more?

How about a 36 year old, small, slow and expensive Russell Wilson?

Sam Darnold on a $30M+/year contract sound good?

Jaemis?

He's the 19th FA on PFF and 32nd on ESPN - there aren't a ton of viable options and certainly nobody with the upside that Fields possesses.
What upside does Fields possess?
 

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Fields has more upside than Sam Darnold now? I will be surprised if an NFL team signs Fields a their starting QB for 2025. I could be wrong.
When no one wants Fields as their starter, it will be the coaches and GMs who are wrong, not CCS message boarders, or something.
 

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Like I said, it’s obvious to unbiased people that Russ signed in Pittsburgh because he was promised the starting job.

You’re biased and obsessed with negativity when it comes to Fields, so you’re going to always express a particular viewpoint.
I think given how badly you overestimated Fields' value last Spring, and also given that NFL teams usually do what they can to win games, you might want to rethink how much your emotions are driving your arguments here. Anyone with a brain gets that a 'promise' (and there is no evidence of that) of a starting spot extends only so far as the player holds up his end of the bargain.

If you haven't noticed you have a Fields Pittsburgh jersey in your avatar. I's rethink suggesting others are biased, unless you have some kind of evidence of that.
 

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I think given how badly you overestimated Fields' value last Spring, and also given that NFL teams usually do what they can to win games, you might want to rethink how much your emotions are driving your arguments here. Anyone with a brain gets that a 'promise' (and there is no evidence of that) of a starting spot extends only so far as the player holds up his end of the bargain.

If you haven't noticed you have a Fields Pittsburgh jersey in your avatar. I's rethink suggesting others are biased, unless you have some kind of evidence of that.
Never said I wasn’t supporting Caleb and Justin, so I don’t understand your point.

The Bears imploding and being forced to fire Getsy and Flus proved to the entire NFL that Justin Fields was not the problem in Chicago. Dan Rooney understands that as well, which is why he wants Justin to sign a multi-year contract with the Steelers.
 

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Fields stans believed the Bears would keep Fields.
They were wrong.

Fields stans believed he was going to fetch a high draft pick.
They were wrong.

Fields stans believed he would beat out Wilson for the starting job.
They were wrong.

When Fields did get a chance, Fields stabs believed he would prove everyone wrong.
They were wrong.

Fields stans believe he’ll get a multi-year deal to the the Steelers starter.
I wonder whether they’ll be wrong? No telling.
 

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Never said I wasn’t supporting Caleb and Justin, so I don’t understand your point.

The Bears imploding and being forced to fire Getsy and Flus proved to the entire NFL that Justin Fields was not the problem in Chicago. Dan Rooney understands that as well, which is why he wants Justin to sign a multi-year contract with the Steelers.
I know, right? That's why they got a whole 6th round pick for him! The league values him as much as you do :mad:.

My point is that you ride Fields dick so hard you can taste your own ass. Everyone else has moved on.
 

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Wrong. Just wrong.

Fields isn't the next coming or anything like that, but if the Steelers sign him I won't question them because I have no emotion when it comes to him.

However it seems people here seem triggered at the mere thought of the guy playing qb on another team.
I was actually surprised that Fields played as well as he did in Pittsburgh, but if he's your starting QB then you are very limited with what you can do on offense. He would usually throw for about 150 yards and the Steelers would win 18-10 or something like that. You can make do with Fields for a bit, but its not sustainable because he isn't a good passer. Teams aren't beating down the doors for Malik Willis, either, but that's not to say he doesn't have value.

No one wanted Fields to be there starting QB last year....I didn't really see anything in 2024 that would make the NFL change their minds about Justin Fields. I think in general this message board has no concept of what an NFL QB looks like.
 

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