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To me, the '05 Pistons had improved from the previous season from when they won the title.
The '04 Lakers (healthy) had beaten the '04 Spurs who were a better team than the '04 Pistons. It was only fair to rank the '04 Lakers where they were prior to losing Karl Malone to a sprained knee. Because it would, in theory, make no sense to rank the '04 Lakers below the '04 Spurs (Lakers defeated the Spurs in the semi-finals in a tight series).
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In regard to my statement that Steve Nash might be just as good of an offensive player as LBJ or Wade- stats don't lie.
Nash's scoring efficiency > Wade's & LBJ's scoring efficiency
Nash's assist:turnover ratio > Wade's & LBJ's ast:tov
Nash's Suns from 2005-2007 were more efficient than any of Wade or LBJ's Cav/Heat teams offensively.
Nash's scoring efficiency > Wade's & LBJ's scoring efficiency
Nash's assist:turnover ratio > Wade's & LBJ's ast:tov
Nash's Suns from 2005-2007 were more efficient than any of Wade or LBJ's Cav/Heat teams offensively.
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Nash shoots 49% Lebron shoots 48.3%. LeBron scores 27 a game, Nash 14. LeBron has also attempted 2000 more shots over the course of his career.
Dwayne shoots 48.6% on his career while averaging 25.2 ppg. He's taken 2000 less shots than Nash.
I'm taking LeBrons 27 a game over Nash's 14, and LeBron's 7 assists a game to Nash's 8.6.
I think efficiency is nice to have, but at the end of the day, I'm taking LBJ or Wade over Nash offensively.
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Factor in free-throw and three-point percentages and that boasts Nash's scoring efficiency even higher. LBJ and Wade are definitely the better scorers. Nash is just more efficient. The passing gives a very good argument for Nash though. LBJ and Wade cannot pass like Nash.
Nash also was leader of a team with better offense than Wade or LBJ. That should count for something. He plays offense the way it was meant to be played at the PG position offensively.
Defensively is where LBJ and Wade separate themselves from Nash.
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I made a couple of edits. I put the Spurs teams all ahead of the Pistons teams and switched the '04 and '05 Pistons around.
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Agreed. :yep:
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The **** does that have to do with anything when ranking teams that played from 2000-2012?
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How are the 2000-2012 Bulls not on this list?
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This.
LOL at Nash being "arguably" better than Lebron James at efficiency on the offensive end.
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He is more efficient...by .7% despite taking 2000 less shots than LeBron over the course of his career.
I think its a silly argument to make because at the end of the day, I'm taking LeBron's 27 7 and 7 over Nash's 14 9 3. All day everyday and twice on Sunday.
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He's also played in much friendly offensive systems when putting up his core numbers.
I'd :fap: to Lebron running the up tempo offense Nash did in Phoenix.
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Marion, Barbosa, Stoudemire, Dirk>>>>>>Mo Williams, Z, West, Hughes
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Well it's more than that really. Even if D'antoni was a shit coach(which some argue he is...at the very least he's really one dimensional) his system makes for ridiculously good numbers, especially for talented PG's. Lebron running that system IMO could have easily resulted in a season of a triple double.
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Dirk didn't play on the Suns.
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He likely meant Diaw..you know..the most versatile player of all time.
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LeBron James isn't arguably worse than Nash in terms of scoring and passing efficiency. I was much more bold than that.
Steve Nash was more efficient than both James and Wade. Period. That is a statistical fact.
Nash has a superior 2pt%, 3pt%, and FT% than LBJ
and a better 2pt%, 3pt%, and FT% than Wade.
And the AST:TOV is also better than both.
These are facts here.
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The drop-off has continued from 2000-2012.
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Is this sarcasm?
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Again, you can't make that comparison and completely ignore the systems and the situations around each player. BTW, James shot pretty much right on par with what Nash did in his best season this year from the field. And Nash was in a much more friendly offense for efficiency of stats for a PG. Then again things like this would be incredibly obvious to anyone with a clue about basketball. Nash played in a system that helped to inflate numbers in some ways. To just arbitrarily look at the numbers and ignore the surrounding causes and factors is lazy stupid analysis. It'd be like arguing Andre Ware was a "more efficient passer" than Peyton Manning in college based on stats. The entire premise is flawed and misses the mark wildly.