OT: Who Is The Most Overrated Player In The NBA?

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Let's review: LBJ as a PG chucking shot from the outside=bad.

LBJ learning to score closer to the basket as a PG=bad.

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LeBron James is the better PF offensively and defensively.

LeBron James is the better SF offensively and defensively.

LeBron James is the better SG...

Derrick Rose is the better offensive point and LeBron James is much better at guarding the PG position.

There is nothing outlandish in my point of view whatsoever. Clearly I realize LeBron James is the better player. But give Rose credit where it is due.
 

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It just continues to amaze me that people think LeBron is overrated. He's averaging 29/8/7 this season, which in case you haven't noticed is a GREAT season.

I know people hate him, I can't stand him either, but you can't deny the talent he has. He's an absolute monster and a defenses worst nightmare.
 

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LeBron James is the better PF offensively and defensively.

LeBron James is the better SF offensively and defensively.

LeBron James is the better SG...

Derrick Rose is the better offensive point and LeBron James is much better at guarding the PG position.

There is nothing outlandish in my point of view whatsoever. Clearly I realize LeBron James is the better player. But give Rose credit where it is due.

If you had to pick one guy to play pg for the rest of the year who do you pick?? Lebron easily. Lebron adding a post game just adds value to his overall game. Many HOF pgs would take advantage of their defender in the post Jkidd Dennis Johnson, Magic, Oscar Robinson ect.
 
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Derrick Rose is the better offensive point (than James)
Incorrect.

By a mile.



But give Rose credit where it is due.

LOL at you white knighting for Rose.

I give Rose plenty of credit. He's one of the best PG"s in basketball. Possibly the second best PG who plays exclusivley the PG position.

However in some odd world where players were position locked he is not a better PG than LBJ.

Not close.
 

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It just continues to amaze me that people think LeBron is overrated. He's averaging 29/8/7 this season, which in case you haven't noticed is a GREAT season.

I know people hate him, I can't stand him either, but you can't deny the talent he has. He's an absolute monster and a defenses worst nightmare.

Wake me when he averages a triple double.

*yawn*
 

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If you had to pick one guy to play pg for the rest of the year who do you pick?? Lebron easily. Lebron adding a post game just adds value to his overall game. Many HOF pgs would take advantage of their defender in the post Jkidd Magic ect.

If I had to do something magical like that, I'd also have LeBron James morph into Derrick Rose whenever he was in a half-court offense playing the role of PG.
 

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I also submit I refuse to get beers with you if you have people around you debating if Rubio is better than Rose.
 

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It just continues to amaze me that people think LeBron is overrated. He's averaging 29/8/7 this season, which in case you haven't noticed is a GREAT season.

I know people hate him, I can't stand him either, but you can't deny the talent he has. He's an absolute monster and a defenses worst nightmare.

Question: who would you say is the better offensive PG between Rose and James? Do you really have a problem with somebody, in a Bulls' forum no less, making a case for Rose over James in that ONE regard?
 

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Question: who would you say is the better offensive PG between Rose and James? Do you really have a problem with somebody, in a Bulls' forum no less, making a case for Rose over James in that ONE regard?

1. As if it being a Bulls forum is a get out of jail free card for saying dumb things about the Bulls.

2. It's not that you merely "said it" It's that you are saying "There is no denying it" as if it's beyond reproach then act shocked that peope with a clue take issue with it.
 

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Question: who would you say is the better offensive PG between Rose and James? Do you really have a problem with somebody, in a Bulls' forum no less, making a case for Rose over James in that ONE regard?
But I'm not just getting the PG Lebron.

I'm getting the Lebron that score from anywhere in the gym, and defend every position.
 

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1. As if it being a Bulls forum is a get out of jail free card for saying dumb things about the Bulls.

2. It's not that you merely "said it" It's that you are saying "There is no denying it" as if it's beyond reproach then act shocked that peope with a clue take issue with it.

LeBron James is a great offensive PG in his own right, but to say that he is better than Derrick Rose in that regard is pure trolling. James never commits himself to any one offensive position while Rose does. He is more often in a forward type of role offensive than anything else anyway. Rose has clear upside in regard to ball-handling and speed. He is more efficient at assist:turnover ratio. What else do you want?
 

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But I'm not just getting the PG Lebron.

I'm getting the Lebron that score from anywhere in the gym, and defend every position.

But that wasn't the question. The question was who would you rather have in the exclusive role of offensive PG.
 

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LeBron James is a great offensive PG in his own right, but to say that he is better than Derrick Rose in that regard is pure trolling. James never commits himself to any one offensive position while Rose does. He is more often in a forward type of role offensive than anything else anyway. Rose has clear upside in regard to ball-handling and speed. He is more efficient at assist:turnover ratio. What else do you want?

I don't get this Rami. Lebron is versatile, why should that be used to prop up Rose?

Both Lebron and Rose have done a lot with a little, and among their supporting casts in Cleveland and Chicago, there are overrated players.
 

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Question: who would you say is the better offensive PG between Rose and James? Do you really have a problem with somebody, in a Bulls' forum no less, making a case for Rose over James in that ONE regard?

LBJ by far Rose has no post game and Rose is 6'3 he is strong as hell probably the 2nd or 3rd best pg in the nba. LBJ has no weakness as a pg he can score from anywhere and pass from anywhere and can run a team as good as Rose. The only thing Rose does better is take criticism from the media and take blame for losses.

If Rose is guarded by a longer player his FG% goes down and goes down quick. Lebron has no weakness anymore offensively Rose has a few.


Lebron shoots 55%

this isn't counting defense he is a much better/ complete offensive player than Rose.
 

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I don't get this Rami. Lebron is versatile, why should that be used to prop up Rose?

Both Lebron and Rose have done a lot with a little, and among their supporting casts in Cleveland and Chicago, there are overrated players.

I wasn't using that to prop up Rose. I clearly said that James is the better player because of that amazing versatility at all of those positions.

Again, the question is- who is the better offensive PG?
 

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