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Ray didn't play last year because he rode the bench behind two NFL draft choices so to lump his two year production in with Fowler and Gregory is silly.
Ray didn't play last year because he rode the bench behind two NFL draft choices so to lump his two year production in with Fowler and Gregory is silly.
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Would you be opposed to drafting Cooper or White at 7 and then trading back up to the mid 20s to get Ray?
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Is it "Bad Comparison Tuesday" again?
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Amari Cooper - WR - Player
One AFC personnel man says the Jaguars like Alabama WR Amari Cooper "more than they are letting on."
There continues to be a lot of smoke around Cooper to the Jags at No. 3 overall. Although they have Allen Robinson locked in at X, they've been desperately trying to surround Blake Bortles with as many weapons as possible. GM Dave Caldwell dumped a truckload of money on TE Julius Thomas and made an unsuccessful play for slot man Randall Cobb. Cooper can play both the slot and Z, much like incumbent Marqise Lee.
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One AFC personnel man says the Jaguars like Alabama WR Amari Cooper "more than they are letting on."
There continues to be a lot of smoke around Cooper to the Jags at No. 3 overall. Although they have Allen Robinson locked in at X, they've been desperately trying to surround Blake Bortles with as many weapons as possible. GM Dave Caldwell dumped a truckload of money on TE Julius Thomas and made an unsuccessful play for slot man Randall Cobb. Cooper can play both the slot and Z, much like incumbent Marqise Lee.
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Did I compare him to JJ Watt.
I compared the level of their combine, which were both off the charts.
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He sat behind Michael Sam.
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Hodor. Michael Sam was a tremendous college player. College players do not play based on their ability to project to the NFL game, they play based on their ability to play the college game.
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@AdamSchefter: At least two teams, possibly more, have approached NY Jets about trading for Muhammad Wilkerson, per league source. Bares watching Thursday.
Would trade anything but our 1st
Would trade anything but our 1st
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But Beasley's numbers were above Watt's on the explosiveness index (the numbers were simply incredible), yet you are saying Dupree has the best raw tools?
I'd say Beasley has the best athlethic ability the Dupree.
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Is this a veiled homosexual reference or just conveniently punny?
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All of Watt's tests were off the charts for his size. Not all of Dupree's tests were off the charts for his size. Meh: Did not bench at combine or pro day (wtf?), 4.46 shuttle, 7.45 3-cone.
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All the same is it not a worry that a potential top 10 pick couldn't beat out a guy out of the league in less than a year.
I'd like BearsFan51's take though as he is the one driving the Ray bandwagon.
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I don't agree with this, but look for the Bears to take a wideout at 7. They'd prefer Amari Cooper but be perfectly happy with Kevin White. If they're both gone--and they are in my final mock--it's Leonard Williams (he's the dropper if the WRs rise) or pray for a trade. And Landon Collins to CHI in the 2nd is a safe projection if he lasts that long.
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I don't agree with this, but look for the Bears to take a wideout at 7. They'd prefer Amari Cooper but be perfectly happy with Kevin White. If they're both gone--and they are in my final mock--it's Leonard Williams (he's the dropper if the WRs rise) or pray for a trade. And Landon Collins to CHI in the 2nd is a safe projection if he lasts that long.
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Clayton was saying Beasley might drop due to size.
His rational was that a lot of these 3-4 guys are from the Parcells tree and they want big OLBs. Realistically Beasley will play at 240 which is not huge.
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I am just so burned by the Angelo Emery years.... I am sick of taking elite athletes... I WANT ELITE FOOTBALL PLAYERS!! lol.... problem is they may all be gone by pick #7 and all you'll have left to choose from is the " elite athletes with upside " haha.
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are there really any elite football players in this draft?
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to me, Amari Cooper, Todd Gurley ( minus the ACL concerns ), Leonard Williams, Dante Fowler, Jameis Winston, and maybe Kevin White....are all guys that would fit that bill. Not many questions about whether their game will translate to the NFL or where they will fit positionally.
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Mike Renner reports that Pro Football Focus uncovered "red flags" when digging into Kentucky edge rusher Bud Dupree's stats and film.
"The most meaningful one is that only three of his 36 pressures came against tackles with positive pass-blocking grades for the season," he wrote. "While he posted an overall respectable pass-rushing productivity mark of 9.8, that number dropped to 7.1 against SEC competition. A third of those pressures against SEC competition came versus Missouri's right tackle, Taylor Chappell, who had the second-worst pass-blocking grade in the country." That's a pretty damning stat, though some will argue Dupree wasn't given a fair shake in college to learn one position and stick to it. Renner added that Dupree didn't generate even one pressure off of a bull rush in 2014. "Those stats paint the picture of a player who feasted on weak competition and then put up impressive workout numbers, rather than a complete pass-rusher," he wrote. Apr 26 - 8:33 PM
"The most meaningful one is that only three of his 36 pressures came against tackles with positive pass-blocking grades for the season," he wrote. "While he posted an overall respectable pass-rushing productivity mark of 9.8, that number dropped to 7.1 against SEC competition. A third of those pressures against SEC competition came versus Missouri's right tackle, Taylor Chappell, who had the second-worst pass-blocking grade in the country." That's a pretty damning stat, though some will argue Dupree wasn't given a fair shake in college to learn one position and stick to it. Renner added that Dupree didn't generate even one pressure off of a bull rush in 2014. "Those stats paint the picture of a player who feasted on weak competition and then put up impressive workout numbers, rather than a complete pass-rusher," he wrote. Apr 26 - 8:33 PM
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just for perspective, its crazy that Dupree can jump a foot higher than Cooper.
do realize how hard it would be for a QB to throw around him in any kind of zone coverage?
do realize how hard it would be for a QB to throw around him in any kind of zone coverage?
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Yikes. I really hope we do not reach for him.