Rizzo locked up for 7 years

[CSF77]

Hell, who knows? It could be Voglebach that ends up moving him if "Chunk" is not traded before then.

Vogel is the 2nd best 1B on his team.

Rock: .317/.400/.585 8 HR 25 RBI
Chunk: .288/.366/.448 5 HR 21 RBI


Interesting tidbit:

Selected by the Boston Red Sox in the 20th round of the 2010 First-Year Player Draft but did not sign

. ... Selected by the Chicago Cubs in the 25th round (759th overall) of the 2011 First-Year Player Draft out of the State College of Florida Manatee-Sarasota. ... Winner of the 2012 MiLB.com Moniker Madness tournament.


So Theo tried to sign him in the first place and now walked into the team that drafted him. And now he is arguably the best pure hitter in the system this year.

Don't be surprised if he makes it to the show.

 

[Chris J]

Chris J wont be on for a while. Im willing to sig bet he is on a :fap: bender with thoughts of Theo laying on a Maui beach dancing in his head.

Its called finals for the school of business dip shit. And no, I dont think of guys laying on beaches...

Sorry my team just locked up a great first baseman, Sorry the Cubs have the same record as the Sox who are trying to contend.

 

[Chris J]

I like the move because it is a low risk, high reward gamble. I feel a that a good comparison for Rizzo would be Carlos Pena.

Rizzo has in my opinion, better overall offensive numbers versus Pena like better BA and RBI potential. SO's, BB's, and OPS appear to be on course with Pena's but I think defensively, Pena would have the edge. Tit for tat.

It would appear to me that down the road at worst would be either a trade to an AL team because Rizzo has DH potential to boot, or I am guessing that he could man a corner OF position if the Cubs indeed find a better option. Trust me, I have seen slower OF's and weaker defensive players than him.

Hell, who knows? It could be Voglebach that ends up moving him if "Chunk" is not traded before then.

If you can live with a Carlos Pena type player at 1B with a higher ceiling, than that's what the Cubs got for 7 years.




Just my observation.

i guess who are failing to realize that Rizzo is an above average fielder

 

[Boobaby1]

Vogel is the 2nd best 1B on his team.

Rock: .317/.400/.585 8 HR 25 RBI
Chunk: .288/.366/.448 5 HR 21 RBI


Interesting tidbit:

. ... Selected by the Chicago Cubs in the 25th round (759th overall) of the 2011 First-Year Player Draft out of the State College of Florida Manatee-Sarasota. ... Winner of the 2012 MiLB.com Moniker Madness tournament.


So Theo tried to sign him in the first place and now walked into the team that drafted him. And now he is arguably the best pure hitter in the system this year.

Don't be surprised if he makes it to the show.

He has a year up on "chunk" so he could catch up to him and it is still early, but at this pace, they will have a surplus of hitting 1st basemen in the organization which is always a good thing. And they are 3 lefties with power which is another good thing.

 

[Boobaby1]

i guess who are failing to realize that Rizzo is an above average fielder

Pena has some GG's to his credit already, so I think Rizzo's offensive upside is better than Pena's, while Pena's defense is a bit better than Rizzo's to this point. Again, if that is the trade off, then they are somewhat equal in many aspects.

 

[Jntg4]

Pena has some GG's to his credit already, so I think Rizzo's offensive upside is better than Pena's, while Pena's defense is a bit better than Rizzo's to this point. Again, if that is the trade off, then they are somewhat equal in many aspects.

He meant since you were calling him a potential DH

 

[patg006]

Its called finals for the school of business dip shit. And no, I dont think of guys laying on beaches...

Sorry my team just locked up a great first baseman, Sorry the Cubs have the same record as the Sox who are trying to contend.

I hope you figured out the difference between revenue and profit......mommy and daddy wouldnt want their money to go to waste on their special little wizard. And KB as well as myself do like to see the younger generations succeed.....

But hey, :fap: away.

Decent overall move by Theo. I'm with CFS though--the timing baffles me. I was hoping for more than 1 year of MLB service with the cubs before this. As long as he keeps playing as he is, keeping the bat hot.....I wont mind.

 

[KBisBack!]

In all fairness however, this deal is for quite a bit more money than Arizona locked Goldschmidt up for though.

Arizona got him for 5/$32M for the same arbitration years and at least one year of arbitration, and he is putting up slightly better numbers.

 

[KBIB]

Great move by Theo here at a ridiculous price.

Best signing so far. Theo knows what he's doing locking up his young players and not over spending for a sloth like Prince. Good job.



Crust

 

[Willrust]

The thing that is starting to wave a red flag with me and Castro, well other than he really doesn't seem to care, is that his BA has slowly been dropping and his strikeout rate is rising.

Not good for a non power hitter.

With his lack of stolen base skill, I would see him more as a 6-7 spot hitter on a quality NL team where hopefully those singles come with men on base.

1st thought would be that he is trying to do too much and is pulling the ball. However, looking at his spray charts from this year, provided by fox sports, he is actually hitting the ball the other way at an extreme clip. Fangraphs shows a steady increase in his flyball rates from 2010 (29.2%) to 2013 (33.8%).

That being said, he is getting under the ball and is apparently focused on driving the ball the other way.

 

[Willrust]

In all fairness however, this deal is for quite a bit more money than Arizona locked Goldschmidt up for though.

Arizona got him for 5/$32M for the same arbitration years and at least one year of arbitration, and he is putting up slightly better numbers.

7 years and 41M (5.857M per year) is not quite a bit more money than 5 years at 32M (6.4M per year).

 

[KBisBack!]

7 years and 41M (5.857M per year) is not quite a bit more money than 5 years at 32M (6.4M per year).

You would whine if I said the sun was orange instead of yellow.

7 years and $73M is quite a bit more.

In your rush to whine about and argue everything I saw, you failed to grasp that if Rizzo only ends up getting the 7 years and $41M (the bare minimum of the deal), he likely will be sucking the entire time, which would make the deal quite a bit more money for an inferior player.

You are pathetic.

 

[KBisBack!]

That being said, he is getting under the ball and is apparently focused on driving the ball the other way.

And it isn't working.

That was the point.

 

[CSF77]

He has a year up on "chunk" so he could catch up to him and it is still early, but at this pace, they will have a surplus of hitting 1st basemen in the organization which is always a good thing. And they are 3 lefties with power which is another good thing.

2011: AZL
Rock: 32 AB .188/.257/.344
Chunk: 24 AB .292/.370/.542

2012: Boi
Rock: 208 AB .250/.342/.447
Chunk: Azl 102 AB/Boi 143 AB
245 AB .322/.410/.641

So up to this year Chunk has put up better numbers then Rock. This year Rock has moved up his game to elite prospect levels.

Just the Cubs org:

Rock: 123 AB .317/.400/.585 8 HR 25 RBI
Chunk: 125 AB .288/.366/.448 5 HR 21 RBI
Soler: 93 AB .290/.374/.559 5 HR 14 RBI
Baez: 131 AB .244/.280/.489 6 HR 22 RBI
Silva: 123 AB .268/.280/.520 6 HR 18 RBI
Villan: 117 AB .239/.308/.350 1 HR 18 RBI
Jaxx: 81 AB .259/.341/.432 2 HR 11 RBI
Vitt: 40 AB .225/.271/.321 2 HR 5 RBI


Some top 50 players:

Oscar Traveras 123 AB .317/.351/.480 4 HR 20 RBIs
Will Myers 125 AB .264/.358/.416 4 HR 22 RBIs
Miguel Sano 122 AB .377/.462/.713 10 HR 31 RBI (Beast mode)
Christian Yelich 83 AB .325/.400/.614 3 HR 17 RBI
Byron Buxton 125 AB .352/.458/.608 5 HR 28 RBI
Nick Castellanos 152 AB .237/.285/.388 3 HR 16 RBI
Mike Olt 72 AB .139/.235/.236 1 HR 6 RBI
Mike Zunino 105 AB .219/.298/.467 5 HR 29 RBI
Bubba Starling 127 AB .213/.286/.354 4 HR 17 RBI
Carlos Correa 80 AB .225/.392/.375 3 HR 15 RBI
Gary Sanchez 127 AB .268/.347/.472 6 HR 27 RBI
Mason Williams 128 AB .234/.340/.344 2 HR 11 RBI
Nick Franklin 106 AB .349/.466/.538 4 HR 16 RBI
Addison Russell 101 AB .178/.306/.356 3 HR 11 RBI
Brian Goodwin 144 AB .250/.333/.403 2 HR 6 RBI

Seeing a lot of hype and potential going on vs actual production.

I'd put Rocks production there and not be wrong in saying he has a pretty good chance of making it to the show.

 

[patg006]

Best signing so far. Theo knows what he's doing locking up his young players and not over spending for a sloth like Prince. Good job.

Remains to be seen. Lets see him handle a full year at the MLB level before we annoint him the savior of mankind, please.

Sloth like Prince........HA! Your intelligent opinion at its finest

 

[Willrust]

You would whine if I said the sun was orange instead of yellow.

7 years and $73M is quite a bit more.

In your rush to whine about and argue everything I saw, you failed to grasp that if Rizzo only ends up getting the 7 years and $41M (the bare minimum of the deal), he likely will be sucking the entire time, which would make the deal quite a bit more money for an inferior player.

You are pathetic.

You whiny little *****. You brought up the whole so and so is a better deal because of your hated of Cub management.

The parameters of the deal is 7 years 42M. Sure incentives could push the deal higher (as I am sure Goldschmidt has as well, or should look for another agent), but those aren't guaranteed, you petulant child.

 

[DewsSox79]

Its called finals for the school of business dip shit. And no, I dont think of guys laying on beaches...

Sorry my team just locked up a great first baseman, Sorry the Cubs have the same record as the Sox who are trying to contend.

lol. great, well thought out response. "great first baseman" are prince, votto, pujols...rizzo is not "great" lol wow! #sheep

 

[KBIB]

Remains to be seen. Lets see him handle a full year at the MLB level before we annoint him the savior of mankind, please.

Who anointed him anything?

Sloth like Prince........HA! Your intelligent opinion at its finest

275 pounds says Prince is a sloth, just sayin. The fact Theo steered clear of him and his bloated waistline that wont be getting any smaller with age makes Theo look that much better.

Jenny Craig in somebodys future doesn't work too well if you eat the entire months shipment in one sitting.



Crust

 

[AmericanFlyer1]

I do like the fact that they are making a committment long term to him. It's a step in the right direction for once. I am not convinced to this point that he's the answer at first base. They appear to have given him a deal that won't "break the budget". Imagine that.

I will reserve my opinion, as I have said many other times, on Rizzo, until he has the opportunity to play an entire ML season.

Given all the shitty deals Boy Blunder has a habit of accomplishing. This one may just pan out for him enough to keep the ******** marathon,of all things Theo,at full steam.

Agreed. Got him cheap. Let's hope that his playing doesn't mimic his contract.

 

[KBisBack!]

You whiny little *****. You brought up the whole so and so is a better deal because of your hated of Cub management.

Yawn.

I simply pointed out a deal signed recently for a player in the same league at the same position that was signed recently that was for less money to a player who has been more productive in his major league career so far.

How unfair of me instead of instantly proclaiming it the greatest deal ever.

The parameters of the deal is 7 years 42M. Sure incentives could push the deal higher (as I am sure Goldschmidt has as well, or should look for another agent), but those aren't guaranteed, you petulant child.

Really?? The incentives aren't guaranteed?

No shit Sherlock.

Which is why I pointed that if he doesn't earn the incentives would leave the Cubs paying for a below average 1B.

I have not read that Goldschmidt has any incentives to deal, just a team option year on the end.

Perhaps you should send him your resume to become his agent then, well that is if Forbes isn't ringing your phone off the hook since you know more about business and finance then they do.