Rizzo locked up for 7 years

[SilenceS]

A couple of things, barring injury, the Rizzo deal should be a good one for the cubs. The biggest thing to me is he has hit left handed pitching a lot better lately. The league adjusted to him and it looks like he adjusted back.

Rock Shoulders as much as I love the name. A lot of scouts are saying he started extremely hot and not many believe him of shooting up the charts. I dont know. We will see, but I think Volgy is still the better hitter. Volgy has very little flaws in his hitting at a very young age.

Castro needs to get out of the 2. He isnt a 2 hitter. He doesnt have a 2 hitters approach. Castro has actually walked the best when he was in the 5 hole. I am deadset he needs to bat 1st or 5th. I think 2 is just dumb. Why doesnt Sveum bat Valbuena in the 2? He takes walks. I think the only 2 candidates on this team to bat 2nd should be either him or DeJesus. They both are patient and could do well with Rizzo behind them. Just one mans opinion.

 

[Chris J]

lol. great, well thought out response. "great first baseman" are prince, votto, pujols...rizzo is not "great" lol wow! #sheep

get rid of your bias and learn how to see talent.

 

[JosMin]

Great value by the Cubs. Considering what other first basemen who develop into top tier talent have gotten VIA arbitration, the Cubs were smart to buyout the Rizzo's arbitration years and his first eligible year of free agency, plus the option seasons.

Look at what Prince Fielder, Joey Votto and Adrian Gonzalez all got VIA arbitration.

Fielder: 7MM, 11MM, 15.5MM
Votto 7.4MM, signed 2-year deal worth 26.5MM, then signed his 10-year, 225MM deal
Gonzalez: 3.1MM, 4.8MM, 6.3MM

Again, I don't anyone to misconstrue me comparing Rizzo to these three, thinking I feel like he's in the same neighborhood in terms of talent, but it's interesting to look at these values and gauge what the Cubs will be paying Rizzo. This contract gives the Cubs flexibility while other prospects such as Almora, Soler, Baez and Jackson continue to develop. Like this risk a lot. If Rizzo's projections hold true, this could be an incredible value.

 

[Willrust]

A couple of things, barring injury, the Rizzo deal should be a good one for the cubs. The biggest thing to me is he has hit left handed pitching a lot better lately. The league adjusted to him and it looks like he adjusted back.

Rock Shoulders as much as I love the name. A lot of scouts are saying he started extremely hot and not many believe him of shooting up the charts. I dont know. We will see, but I think Volgy is still the better hitter. Volgy has very little flaws in his hitting at a very young age.

Castro needs to get out of the 2. He isnt a 2 hitter. He doesnt have a 2 hitters approach. Castro has actually walked the best when he was in the 5 hole. I am deadset he needs to bat 1st or 5th. I think 2 is just dumb. Why doesnt Sveum bat Valbuena in the 2? He takes walks. I think the only 2 candidates on this team to bat 2nd should be either him or DeJesus. They both are patient and could do well with Rizzo behind them. Just one mans opinion.

Silence,

Might want to watch talking about a specific prospect in one sentence, and in the very next sentence using the phrase "shooting up." Although, Dan Shauggnessey says Shoulders is fine, as he isn't from the Dominican.

 

[Mr. Cub]

Hopefully Rizzo will be the stud he has the potential to be. So this is good all around.

 

[daddies3angels]

Love the deal for the Cubs. Have this guy locked up for 9 yrs and looks like every year he be underpaid. Give Theo all the credit here. Ricketts still a cheap bastard! Now that got a young cheap hitting 1B locked up for 9 yrs he better spend some money on a hitter to protect him

 

[justaChifan]

Hopefully Rizzo will be the stud he has the potential to be. So this is good all around.

I hope he can realize his potential. Fan pressure, MEDIA PRESSURE, and the ONUS of being a Cub will hopefully not derail him from achieving that.

 

[Mr. Cub]

I hope he can realize his potential. Fan pressure, MEDIA PRESSURE, and the ONUS of being a Cub will hopefully not derail him from achieving that.

Let's hope. He started off slow, and minus the homers I was starting to get skeptical of this guy. But, he has been on a tear the last month or so. And he's not striking out like he was.

 

[Ari Bear]

It a great deal for the Cubs. Surprising its lower the Castro's considering Rizzo is and will continue to put up bigger numbers than him. Also Im interested to see what they are gonna do with Samardzija........

 

[CSF77]

A couple of things, barring injury, the Rizzo deal should be a good one for the cubs. The biggest thing to me is he has hit left handed pitching a lot better lately. The league adjusted to him and it looks like he adjusted back.

Rock Shoulders as much as I love the name. A lot of scouts are saying he started extremely hot and not many believe him of shooting up the charts. I dont know. We will see, but I think Volgy is still the better hitter. Volgy has very little flaws in his hitting at a very young age.

Castro needs to get out of the 2. He isnt a 2 hitter. He doesnt have a 2 hitters approach. Castro has actually walked the best when he was in the 5 hole. I am deadset he needs to bat 1st or 5th. I think 2 is just dumb. Why doesnt Sveum bat Valbuena in the 2? He takes walks. I think the only 2 candidates on this team to bat 2nd should be either him or DeJesus. They both are patient and could do well with Rizzo behind them. Just one mans opinion.

They put Shoulders in RF today. Chunk was still at 1B. Still very early but it appears they are putting him in the OF with Rizzo locked up and Chunk as the fall back plan at 1B. Have to see if he sustains his production. Still LF Rock, RF Soler..... On Valbuena his OBA is very solid. I still don't see them upping him in the line up. PR reasons. They signed Castro long term for them to drop him? 5th is a reach with his SLG under .500. Little protection for Sori. I don't see them tinkering much.

 

[The Bandit]

Love the deal for the Cubs. Have this guy locked up for 9 yrs and looks like every year he be underpaid. Give Theo all the credit here. Ricketts still a cheap bastard! Now that got a young cheap hitting 1B locked up for 9 yrs he better spend some money on a hitter to protect him

:roll: :rolling::rolling::rolling::rolling::rolling: :roll:

 

[kchicub08]

It does make one thing laughable though.
How they were afraid to promote him last year earlier to save a "year of service" time....

We all know the player has zero leverage for many years and with any success, has to sign a deal like this.

 

[KBisBack!]

It does make one thing laughable though.
How they were afraid to promote him last year earlier to save a "year of service" time....

We all know the player has zero leverage for many years and with any success, has to sign a deal like this.

Great point!

I remember pointing out that if he performed well you could sign him to a deal exactly like this, but didn't stop the #TheoSpankfest from defending/apologizing for every little move.

 

[KBisBack!]

Update....

Pretty much since signing the 7 year deal, Rizzo has sucked big time.

.130/.149/.239 for an impressive .388 OPS and is currently in an 0-22 skid with 9 K's to drop his over BA under .250 and his OPS under .800

He is on pace to strike out over 150 times and we are still seeing what we have seen in his time with the Cubs. Brief periods of white hot production mixed into long stretches of below average to downright terrible production.

 

[The Bandit]

Update....

Pretty much since signing the 7 year deal, Rizzo has sucked big time.

.130/.149/.239 for an impressive .388 OPS and is currently in an 0-22 skid with 9 K's to drop his over BA under .250 and his OPS under .800

He is on pace to strike out over 150 times and we are still seeing what we have seen in his time with the Cubs. Brief periods of white hot production mixed into long stretches of below average to downright terrible production.

man this deal is absurd, pay him the minimum.

 

[dabynsky]

Update....

Pretty much since signing the 7 year deal, Rizzo has sucked big time.

.130/.149/.239 for an impressive .388 OPS and is currently in an 0-22 skid with 9 K's to drop his over BA under .250 and his OPS under .800

He is on pace to strike out over 150 times and we are still seeing what we have seen in his time with the Cubs. Brief periods of white hot production mixed into long stretches of below average to downright terrible production.

That sounds vaguely familar. Couldn't be anything like the player that you have consistently said isn't a problem for this team and is the team's best player?

 

[KBisBack!]

That sounds vaguely familar. Couldn't be anything like the player that you have consistently said isn't a problem for this team and is the team's best player?

Only Soriano's hot streaks are better and more often.

Whoops.

 

[dabynsky]

Only Soriano's hot streaks are better and more often.

Whoops.

Definitely true since here is their numbers in the past two years:
Alfonso Soriano .262/.315/.475
Anthony Rizzo .276/.334/.474

Whoops.

 

[KBisBack!]

Definitely true since here is their numbers in the past two years:
Alfonso Soriano .262/.315/.475
Anthony Rizzo .276/.334/.474

Whoops.

Rizzo's "past two years" isn't even one full season.

Why don't you include his time in San Diego? Cause that doesn't fit your agenda.

Each players per 162 game averages for their careers.....

Soriano .273/.322/.502 for an .825 OPS and 34 HR and 94 RBI.

Rizzo .250/.325/.429 for an .753 OPS and 23 HR and 78 RBI.

Game over.

Sure Rizzo COULD end up being as productive a hitter as Soriano has already been and he could not.

Come talk to me when Rizzo even comes close to matching the numbers Soriano has produced over his career.

Hell start talking when he even matches Soriano's numbers from last year which you whine about being so poor, ignoring the fact that Rizzo has yet to even duplicate them, while you are slurping about how great he is.

 

[dabynsky]

Rizzo's "past two years" isn't even one full season.

Why don't you include his time in San Diego? Cause that doesn't fit your agenda.

Each players per 162 game averages for their careers.....

Soriano .273/.322/.502 for an .825 OPS and 34 HR and 94 RBI.

Rizzo .250/.325/.429 for an .753 OPS and 23 HR and 78 RBI.

Game over.

Sure Rizzo COULD end up being as productive a hitter as Soriano has already been and he could not.

Come talk to me when Rizzo even comes close to matching the numbers Soriano has produced over his career.

Hell start talking when he even matches Soriano's numbers from last year which you whine about being so poor, ignoring the fact that Rizzo has yet to even duplicate them, while you are slurping about how great he is.

Agendaz and stuff.

Awesome lets use Soriano's career OPS which he hasn't matched in five seasons, but accuse the other guy of agendaz for pointing out information that doesn't fit what you see. Dynamite analysis.