Run on WRs picks 22-30..

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I'm still supporting Fields' development, but you're right about the o-line.

Seems like every year posters bitch about the o-line, but come draft time, they want a flashy wr.

The common denominator with this team and when the offense sucks bad is a terrible o-line. Even if your WRs aren't great, and you have a good line, you can still run.

Some CSS posters are hoping for J'marr Chase when we take the 9th best WR off the board instead of the 2nd best C or G.
I am fine giving Justin Fields all seventeen starts to prove his mettle, but if I'm Ryan Poles I'm not just ignoring Desmond Ridder, Malik Willis or Kenny Pickett should any of them miraculously fall to the Bears (which is almost impossible, I know). I know that's heretical to believe on this board, but Fields was literally indistinguishable from your average quarterback bust his rookie year. He could turn it around, I'm pro giving him the opportunity to turn it around, but the odds are lalready poor.

Even then if the Bears are going to draft for need it should be OL. 100%. That's the biggest need on the team. Both picks for all I care. But if Poles wants to go BPA I won't complain, even if that BPA is a receiver.
 

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The Bears have so many needs this season that as long as there's a quality player when it comes to our pick, it will improve our team.

they need turnovers and playmakers.

guys like JJ is a good corner, has become a solid pick for the bears but without the picks he won't get the recognition. 1 pick in 28 starts, brutal
 

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First round talent doesn’t “drop”. First round talent gets….. wait for it…. Drafted in the first round.

Tevin Jenkins wasn’t a first round talent that fell….. he’s a second round player.

I see this shit every year and it drives me crazy: just because some guy on Twitter or a draft site thinks a player is a first round talent doesn’t mean shit. They’re only a first round player if they actually ….. wait for it….. get drafted in the first round!

So Devante Adams is a 2nd round talent?

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I think there is a little more pressure on Poles to draft a WR that some people think.

He passed on alot of talented free agent WRs, and the WR he did sign was only a one year deal.

Poles need someone at WR who can at least contribute this year at a minimum and move into a large role next season.

I think he definitely selects a WR in one of this first 3 selections and very likely with one of his 2 second round picks.
 

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First round talent doesn’t “drop”. First round talent gets….. wait for it…. Drafted in the first round.

Tevin Jenkins wasn’t a first round talent that fell….. he’s a second round player.

I see this shit every year and it drives me crazy: just because some guy on Twitter or a draft site thinks a player is a first round talent doesn’t mean shit. They’re only a first round player if they actually ….. wait for it….. get drafted in the first round!
First of all, I never mentioned Tevin Jenkins.

Secondly, there is no rule that only first round talent gets drafted in the first round. Not every team drafts exactly BPA. If a team needs a position badly they will draft that position if the relative talent available is close.....

So if a bunch of teams draft WR and err on the side of need there will be other talented players that drop.

Unless you think there are exactly 32 first round talent players available every draft and they all get drafted in the first, your argument doesn't make sense.

It really depends on teams drafting and leaning towards WR need as opposed to strict BPA.
 

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I think there is a little more pressure on Poles to draft a WR that some people think.

He passed on alot of talented free agent WRs, and the WR he did sign was only a one year deal.

Poles need someone at WR who can at least contribute this year at a minimum and move into a large role next season.

I think he definitely selects a WR in one of this first 3 selections and very likely with one of his 2 second round picks.
One of the first 2 picks will be a WR. I don't see any way around it unless there is some sort of trade.
 

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So Devante Adams is a 2nd round talent?

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Well where was he drafted? You tell me .


Doesn’t mean that’s were he should have gone. Just at the time that’s what teams thought he was worth.
 

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First of all, I never mentioned Tevin Jenkins.

Secondly, there is no rule that only first round talent gets drafted in the first round. Not every team drafts exactly BPA. If a team needs a position badly they will draft that position if the relative talent available is close.....

So if a bunch of teams draft WR and err on the side of need there will be other talented players that drop.

Unless you think there are exactly 32 first round talent players available every draft and they all get drafted in the first, your argument doesn't make sense.

It really depends on teams drafting and leaning towards WR need as opposed to strict BPA.
Jenkins is just an example.
 

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Ever heard the expression "having nothing is almost like having it all?" What I mean is with so many areas of need Poles can afford to take the biggest difference maker still on the board at any of those positions. He'd be a fool to pass over an LT or db with a low 1st round grade who fell to 39 to take the 9th best receiver this year, when the 11th best receiver will still be there at 48.

Of course they need to take at least one WR but why tie the GM's hands by making him use his first pick on one if there is better value at another position of need?
 

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I imagine GB will either neglect WR in the 1st round or get cute like they have done with Gutekunst and get some 3rd rd rated WR in the 1st like Alec Pierce.

KC will go for straight speed.

There could still be solid options left. But even then, we shouldn't force ourselves to go with one position if the value isn't there. It's a bad approach to the draft. Keep your options open and draft the best prospect.
 

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They need a Z and depth. Mooney is your X (and Z) and Pringle is your slot. The draft isn’t the last shot to get a Z, because waves of post draft, summer, and camp cuts are still going to give options that OL and 3 tech won’t get.

‘Wr is in fact a big need’ is a little dramatic. It’s 4th after 3 tech, OL, and cb2.
Do you really think Mooney is an X?

If so, I really am all in on my man Skyy Moore!
 

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WRs are going to get hammered from 22-30. Both GB and KC have 2 selections in the first round each, and some mocks have GB taking 2 WRs.

Its very likely at least 3 WRs come off the board between 22-30 and at least 6 WRs get taken in the first round.

Kind of a bad luck position for the Bears. You could probably give up a 3rd to jump back into the very late first round, but I think that late run on WRs is going to deplete that WR depth.

It will be interesting to see how Poles handles that position of need if there is a run at WR in the bottom of the first.
Yeah, I’m going to have to agree with most of the guys in this thread, because we aren’t a WR away from winning. We’re just not.

Getting a LT that could start and thrive in our system, like Rahman, that falls because teams went ape shit on QB and WR would be fine. Getting either of the kids out of Washington or Scrappy Doo from Houston, in the 3rd, would be great, but if we can get a bona fide pocket collapsing DT, yeah boy, count me in.

We need solids this year. Dudes that can and will play.
 

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Do you really think Mooney is an X?

If so, I really am all in on my man Skyy Moore!
Yes.

Nobody on the roster is more qualified and while fans here love their WR draft prospects, even a 2nd rounder who’s a fast learner isn’t getting plugged in at starting X in his rookie season by competent coaching staffs without significant injuries to the depth chart.

Unless big moneys about to go to Jarvis Landry…
 
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Yes.

Nobody on the roster is more qualified and while fans here love their WR draft prospects, even a 2nd rounder who’s a fast learner isn’t getting plugged in at starting X in his rookie season by competent coaching staffs without significant injuries to the depth chart.

Unless big moneys about to go to Jarvis Landry…
When you’re right, you’re right.

The more I’ve been thinking about it, the more I think Skyy Moore is the best pick for Fields in this draft.

He can be the receiver that never drops the ball, gets open, and is always a safety valve for Fields whole terrorizing defenses with his movement. What he can do underneath, with Mooney and Pringle, shiiiiiitt. Yeah. We don’t need a WR that needs seasoning. We need Skyy Moore.

He may fall to us due to other teams jumping on the X receivers that, as you correctly pointed out, need time to develop. Fuck Green Bay!
 

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I think there is a little more pressure on Poles to draft a WR that some people think.

He passed on alot of talented free agent WRs, and the WR he did sign was only a one year deal.

Poles need someone at WR who can at least contribute this year at a minimum and move into a large role next season.

I think he definitely selects a WR in one of this first 3 selections and very likely with one of his 2 second round picks.
Elaborate on passing on alot of talented wrs in FA if you would. Because from my view, there were alot of guys who are over hyped and got over paid, which is typical in FA. Looks more to me that he wasn't willing to spend first rate money on 2nd rate players.
 
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Yes.

Nobody on the roster is more qualified and while fans here love their WR draft prospects, even a 2nd rounder who’s a fast learner isn’t getting plugged in at starting X in his rookie season by competent coaching staffs without significant injuries to the depth chart.

Unless big moneys about to go to Jarvis Landry…
This is pretty spot on. They could draft a potential future X, say Pickens as an example but that most likely won't come to fruition anytime soon.
 

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WRs are going to get hammered from 22-30. Both GB and KC have 2 selections in the first round each, and some mocks have GB taking 2 WRs.

Its very likely at least 3 WRs come off the board between 22-30 and at least 6 WRs get taken in the first round.

Kind of a bad luck position for the Bears. You could probably give up a 3rd to jump back into the very late first round, but I think that late run on WRs is going to deplete that WR depth.

It will be interesting to see how Poles handles that position of need if there is a run at WR in the bottom of the first.
nobody is giving up a 1st for a 3rd
 

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