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Seems like the latest buzz is that team's are going to call (theoism) bluff. It looks like the Cubs are going to start him and see if the offers get upped or not.
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It'd be kind of strange to see the offers actually go up but that's probably also dependent on what happens with Hamels and Greinke. It could happen, but paying more for a rental of one start less seems like wishful thinking to me. The Cubs might just cave and take what they can get before having to start him again. Or they just pull Dempster back and hope for that comp round pick. Tough market.
I definitely don't blame opposing GMs for not wanting to pay through the nose for a rental, though.
I definitely don't blame opposing GMs for not wanting to pay through the nose for a rental, though.
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I don't know if they will go up or not, but that must be what they are banking on because otherwise why risk an injury.
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11th hour. They still have time to fly Dempster out of town.
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Again that is why this is so fascinating, but it is looking like that he will start. And the only reason to start him is if you think you can get more later.
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Or that the offers aren't worth as much as the potential bonus pool for the comp pick and/or the comp pick (whoever it is) himself.
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Perhaps that would be surprising with how much of a sellers market it supposedly is, but then again who knows what is going to play out here.
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Just keeping an open mind. If you were an opposing GM, would you sell the farm for Ryan Dempster?
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I think we both know that isn't the case, but it seems like Garrett Gould plus is a legitimate offer. And that would seem to worth more than just one pick especially factoring all the risks to get that pick.
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Bruce Levine is reporting that Red Sox have an offer on the table for Dempster as well.
Also Dempster was taking BP earlier so this is quite a bluff if he isn't taking the ball in an hour and a half.
Also Dempster was taking BP earlier so this is quite a bluff if he isn't taking the ball in an hour and a half.
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There is no way he can pitch tonight. The Cubs need to be bubble wrapping him and protecting his value. If he gets hurt this is all OVER.
They need to scratch him and take the best offer that comes tonight.
That way they can focus on Garza who is going to be the one who brings back the kings ransom.
They need to scratch him and take the best offer that comes tonight.
That way they can focus on Garza who is going to be the one who brings back the kings ransom.
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i agree.
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According to Levine and Stark the Cubs have a list of prospects to choose from the Dodgers and an offer from the BoSox:
http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/8185283/chicago-cubs-ryan-dempster-poised-start-amid-trade-talk
http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/8185283/chicago-cubs-ryan-dempster-poised-start-amid-trade-talk
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Best that they can get. Most Cubs fans are going to be disappointed but won't realize that what the Cubs get in return is fair given all the circumstances.
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Agree I am starting to think that Theo and Jed are working Dempster to accept a deal to Boston. You gotta figure they like their chances of picking a sleeper out of Boston as opposed to LA.
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Yeah, I think a lot of fans are either forgetting (or have no idea to begin with) that the team Dempster's traded to will not get a compensatory pick if he signs elsewhere in the offseason. Knowing that you may be giving up your 'spects and not getting ANYTHING back at the end of the season is going to keep the asking price lower than in years past. That being said, he should still get a good haul given how his year's gone.
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being picky could burn the cubs
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How so?
Not trying to be a dick, honestly...just confused by the statement...do you think some of the teams might pull offers they have for Demp if they're not accepted tonight?
I mean, I guess they could always trade for other pitchers...but...with reportedly 8-10 teams interested in Demp, I'd imagine the best deal hasn't been offered yet anyway...
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If Demp has another bad inning like he did the first... teams might start to wonder if we're seeing his rebound back to a descent to good SP rather than a good to excellent SP.
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Really doubt that it sways teams that much, but only because I don't think the sub 2 ERA swayed teams that much either. Teams know what Dempster is which is a solid starting pitcher. If we weren't getting Zach Lee or other top prospects before tonight, I doubt it means the offers are going to disappear with a rough outing against one of the best offensive teams in the league.
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