Ryan Dempster trade thread -UPDATE- No one knows what the **** is going on

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There are conditions, diminished values, injury and age concerns, and loss of comp picks... and if you somehow manage to get beyond the Lack of Leverage Gate, there are hundreds of Twits that will be looking for the One Trade to give away its location to the Dempster.... whose 10-5 rights will be ready to take it away!
 

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Nothing amazing, but he was the most consistent pitcher on this team for half a decade. With his charity work and media friendly persona he had a decent shot at getting a job with the organization or media once he was done. Bottomline is this is that while it is his right to do this, it has made this team worse going forward.

Possibly, hard to say with a prospect and where the Cubs are right now anyways. It is not a player's concern to make a team better. It is a player's concern to play to their abilities. Demp has done that.
 

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There's one team that Ryan would be traded to with only minutes to think and they haven't been mentioned. He'd be on a playoff contending team and not really have to leave at all. Prediction: Welcome to the South Side!!
 

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There's one team that Ryan would be traded to with only minutes to think and they haven't been mentioned. He'd be on a playoff contending team and not really have to leave at all. Prediction: Welcome to the South Side!!

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There's one team that Ryan would be traded to with only minutes to think and they haven't been mentioned. He'd be on a playoff contending team and not really have to leave at all. Prediction: Welcome to the South Side!!

I would love this... BUT, if I were Theo I'd probably just take the Dodgers low ball offer. Just being realistic...
 

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Possibly, hard to say with a prospect and where the Cubs are right now anyways. It is not a player's concern to make a team better. It is a player's concern to play to their abilities. Demp has done that.
And it is my concern to care about the team. Hence why I don't enjoy Ryan Dempster being here, and can we please stop with this whole prospect nonsense. Delgado isn't a known commidity, but he has already made it to the big leagues and put up respectable numbers. He is a pretty safe bet to be at least a guy that can take the ball every fifth day which is going to be way, way more than what we can say about anything we get for Ryan Dempster now.
 

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There's one team that Ryan would be traded to with only minutes to think and they haven't been mentioned. He'd be on a playoff contending team and not really have to leave at all. Prediction: Welcome to the South Side!!

If Theo and Jed do cave and just give him away sure. Otherwise I doubt it.
 

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Didn't someone post a twitter link earlier in this thread about TJed never caving?
 

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Oh we got guys that your conglomerate want. We shall see tho
 

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Actually I like Jepstein better than TJed
 

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It's not a terrible idea. If the Cubs want to trade with LA, even with lost leverage they could ask the White Sox what they'd give up for Demp, especially since the Sox were rumored to be in on Greinke (which was kind of amusing). Demp would cost less, so Sox could potentially have something more valuable than whatever LA was lowballing the Cubs with. That's if the Cubs are hellbent on trading him instead of holding out for the draft pick.

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It's not a terrible idea. If the Cubs want to trade with LA, even with lost leverage they could ask the White Sox what they'd give up for Demp, especially since the Sox were rumored to be in on Greinke (which was kind of amusing). Demp would cost less, so Sox could potentially have something more valuable than whatever LA was lowballing the Cubs with. That's if the Cubs are hellbent on trading him instead of holding out for the draft pick.

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how was that amusing? he couldnt get a 3rd team involved. not sure why someone with baseball knowledge would make a stupid comment like that.
 

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per kaplan yesterday- he will not pitch for the white sox as he does not want to go there.

he is probably scared of the cell and the fact that its the AL.
 

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I say we send him to Boston as the final compensation for Theo.

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You know what is weird we haven't heard a damn thing what the compensation what Jed Hoyer and Jason McLeod is. East coast bias indeed...
 

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per kaplan yesterday- he will not pitch for the white sox as he does not want to go there.

he is probably scared of the cell and the fact that its the AL.
While I doubt the Al helps his case, it shouldn't be underestimated the offensve improvement the Cell is to Wrigly.
 

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You know what is weird we haven't heard a damn thing what the compensation what Jed Hoyer and Jason McLeod is. East coast bias indeed...

It's probably just a couple of PTBNLs.
 

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Any chance Atlanta revisits the Dempster trade or did that ship sail for good? Now that Greinke is off the market, Dempster might be their last hope since Shields and/or J. Johnson might cost too much for the Braves to consider.
 

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per kaplan yesterday- he will not pitch for the white sox as he does not want to go there.

he is probably scared of the cell and the fact that its the AL.

Or maybe he just doesn't like the Sox.. who knows.
 

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Any chance Atlanta revisits the Dempster trade or did that ship sail for good? Now that Greinke is off the market, Dempster might be their last hope since Shields and/or J. Johnson might cost too much for the Braves to consider.

Your guess is as good as mine. The fact that we're so close to the deadline is probably advantage Cubs since they don't actually need to trade anyone. Of course it's more ideal if they could trade, but I think the Cubs can maintain some semblance of leverage that way.

Of course, Ted Lilly is rehabbing soon so the Dodgers may not need Dempster after all. Timing and silliness was never the best where the Cubs were concerned.
 
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