So - do we believe in Ryan Poles now?

[Wild_x_Card]

You wanted the haul

Not only did he want the haul, Caleb Williams is a GUARANTEED bust. His exact words. this dude is more scattered then strippers on coke.

That's not "changing your mind."

 

[Wild_x_Card]

I don't think many here would be satisfied with a 7-8 record. They sure wouldn't if Justin Fields was the QB. Sounds like excuses are already being made and we were told excuses were unaceptable.

My God is this Boomer bitter. Terrible takes all offseason. Still dreams of Roquan Smith. Stuck. In. The. Past.

 

[ColumbusRod]

Not Yet, but leaning towards yes. I give RP no props for CW or RO. My dog could have made those picks. But I do give him credit for trading with Carolina that brought DM, and those picks. He was kina lucky on how that worked out (thanks Lovie), but somebody has to get credit for it. The Claypool disaster kinda makes this a wash, unless CW turns out to be the almighty, we all hope for. We really won't know about this draft class for a year, maybe two?

 

[gallagher]

No.

He wasn't the dumbest GM last night (LOL Atlanta's GM hit the meth pipe hard when he said that 'if we have to sit Penix for 4 years because we're getting production from Kirk, that's good'). He also won't be tempted to have the biggest knee-jerk reaction out of desperation in not getting one of the top 6 QBs in Vegas, I halfway expect them to do something stupid and desperate today.

But WR3 this year and likely WR2 next year being more important than LDE1, 3T, LT, and C this year? Don't get it, we used to make fun of the Lions for doing shit like this. I guess Tyler Scott not being overwhelmed learning a new playbook and moving up the depth chart 1 spot was more important.

To the bolded - LOL! You are right on here. They are lining up to Brandon Weeden themselves.

I disagree on the underlined part. Top WRs cost an absurd amount, and this lines up with what the Seahawks did when they got JSN last year. They are protecting their future at WR by getting someone who is set to step in when their aging vet leaves the team, and will be their #1 in a few years when their current #1 is off the team. Odunze will be a starting outside receiver in a year, and will be the #1 in 3-4 years when it is time to give him a lot of money.

Given that DJ Moore is about to have a payday, we expect to have a competitive second receiver on the cheap. This is great for the long-term health of the team. When we have a starting quality LT and C (which we do - Jones is good and growing, and the center is a FA acquisition slated to start), I think you continue to put resources into the offense. I dont think that DL matters as much as continuing to get support on offense for a rookie QB.

If the team takes off this year, those DL will be great additions, but drafting a WR at 9 is all about securing the future for Caleb Williams. I think it is a good choice and we should count ourselves lucky that a prospect with Odunze's potential was sitting there at 9.

 

[PhilEBuster]

Bro be dancin on the doubters:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1783682343779074130

(And yes, I know that's not really real, for the dumb trolls out there. It's an amazing day to be a Bears fan - lighten up.)

Wait a sec, MJ - that video isn't real? OK, thanks for clarifying . . .

"Bro be dancin," right boomer?

 

[discplayer]

Not Yet, but leaning towards yes. I give RP no props for CW or RO. My dog could have made those picks. But I do give him credit for trading with Carolina that brought DM, and those picks. He was kina lucky on how that worked out (thanks Lovie), but somebody has to get credit for it. The Claypool disaster kinda makes this a wash, unless CW turns out to be the almighty, we all hope for. We really won't know about this draft class for a year, maybe two?

He could have panicked, and traded up with TEN, or could have traded back for lower slot and more picks, gambling that one of "his guys" was there. But it took balls, IMO, to sit and wait to see what TEN and ATL did.

All this to say, I do give him credit for the above mentioned nads. Also appreciate he did not cave to Eberdufus' desire for his 3TechDT or an Edge that the league clearly agreed would be a reach at #9. Our D was good enough, while our O was trash. I appreciate Poles for making the offensive side better, and would be fine with 2 OL with the remaining picks.

Coach Pickens and Dexter up, for cryin' out loud.

 

[iueyedoc]

If it causes us to avoid drafting a bust in Caleb Williams, all for it...

Crap edit - and nope. MHJ the whole way.

Your boy Caleb has bust written all over him.

Low key - I want the Packers to draft Caleb Williams.

That's how strongly I believe Williams is going to be a complete train wreck bust.

And I will tell you right now that almost every NFL draft people say the same things about the top quarterbacks and 99% of the time are wrong.

You guys buy into the hype way too much. Caleb Williams is going to fail at the top level.

I will still be scared as hell that Caleb Williams will be an absolute bust no matter what coaching staff picks him up.

But if we were stuck with him, I'd feel a lot better about Harbaugh getting something out of him than Luke freaking getsy.

So here's the thing that I think the Caleb's side doesn't understand.



That's what I think the Caleb's side refuses to acknowledge or even comprehend. It's not Caleb versus fields. It's Caleb versus the damage it will do if Caleb doesn't work out. Plus the haul we would get back in exchange for someone who we perceive to be a future bust. The Caleb side needs to understand that it is those feelings that have informed our opinion on sticking with fields for another year. It's not undying loyalty to fields. It's seeing the problems and potential warts that the Caleb's side who's all Juiced up on hype refuses to see...

We just don't think it's worth the risk on that particular player. Most of us hold the same feelings about Drake maye as well.

To put myself on record, I have no problem with the Bears drafting a quarterback. I just don't think it should be Caleb Williams. The dude screams bust.

Even a successful Caleb Williams alone isn't going to make up that much of a talent Gap.

Trade for a haul, pick up a quarterback with whatever second round pick you get back in return. Develop that guy under the new offensive coordinator and let fields start next year so that way the rookie can sit and learn.

Whether it's this or they just flat keep Fields I am happy with either.

My only request is the Bears do not draft Caleb Williams or Drake Maye, if they do indeed draft another quarterback. This is the most attention I've paid to an incoming quarterback class and I just think these two have really high bust potential.

In my worst nightmare, I could never imagine being such an insufferable lying spineless douche nozzle.

If you want example of why you are so ridiculed look no further. You spend an entire off season talking shit about Williams and think there is some mystical"side" you are on and one you are battling, and the minute Williams is drafted you post a video about Poles dancing on his doubters as if you weren't 1-A in predicting the Williams pick was the worst idea ever.

Have a take and stick with it, your wrong and own it you, join the club at least you are respected. What you do is so embarrassing.

And spare me the, "I'm a Bears fan, so I am going to root for him," bullshit. You can not like the direction, state you don't, but hope you are wrong. Well... you can't, but humans with normal functioning emotional control can.

 

[ILoveDick]

And Howie Roseman drafted Jalen Raegor over Justin Jefferson and spent a 4th on Robert Quinn who I technically never saw in a Eagles uniform.

All GMs have misses. Thanks

You'll excuse anything, so...who cares what you say?

I don't.

 

[KittiesKorner]

Wait a sec, MJ - that video isn't real? OK, thanks for clarifying . . .

"Bro be dancin," right boomer?

Low key!

 

[gpphat]

In my worst nightmare, I could never imagine being such an insufferable lying spineless douche nozzle.

If you want example of why you are so ridiculed look no further. You spend an entire off season talking shit about Williams and think there is some mystical"side" you are on and one you are battling, and the minute Williams is drafted you post a video about Poles dancing on his doubters as if you weren't 1-A in predicting the Williams pick was the worst idea ever.

Have a take and stick with it, your wrong and own it you, join the club at least you are respected. What you do is so embarrassing.

And spare me the, "I'm a Bears fan, so I am going to root for him," bullshit. You can not like the direction, state you don't, but hope you are wrong. Well... you can't, but humans with normal functioning emotional control can.

Those are a lot of receipts lmao....and I can't wait for him to try and reference posts where he said he changed his mind. The only reason he changed his mind was because it became a forgone conclusion Poles was taking CW with the 1st and the haul was off.

I was on the side of sticking with Fields and said that there were some red flags with CW but would totally get it if the Bears went CW instead. I had hoped the Bears could get more for Fields and honestly thought there was more of a market for Fields. I still think there are some red flags with CW, but it was 100% the no brainer pick. He looks to be the best QB in this draft class and the Bears need a QB. Was happier to see Odunze there for the Bears.

 

[thenewguy]

In my worst nightmare, I could never imagine being such an insufferable lying spineless douche nozzle.

If you want example of why you are so ridiculed look no further. You spend an entire off season talking shit about Williams and think there is some mystical"side" you are on and one you are battling, and the minute Williams is drafted you post a video about Poles dancing on his doubters as if you weren't 1-A in predicting the Williams pick was the worst idea ever.

Have a take and stick with it, your wrong and own it you, join the club at least you are respected. What you do is so embarrassing.

And spare me the, "I'm a Bears fan, so I am going to root for him," bullshit. You can not like the direction, state you don't, but hope you are wrong. Well... you can't, but humans with normal functioning emotional control can.

Let's not forget @Mighty Joe Young invented a cult to have a non-existent other side to argue with. Spammed this board (as you have well represented) with terrible takes, melting down for months, because his manhood was threatening by painted nails. So no @Mighty Joe Young you don't get to change your mind. We hilariously remember your months long meltdown.

 

[Myk]

I don't hold a grudge against those who fought to support our QB and now support our QB. That's just a fan.

But I do want to go back and check the critical thinking debate with MJY. I think I laid out what was going to happen and was strongly told how wrong I was.
This was the right time to make the right moves for Poles. And so far he's done the right moves better than the Bears have in my memory including the what became the '85 team. They did the right moves in the right order but were slow about it. Poles made his moves the instant he knew he had his rookie coming in.
Williams has a much better situation than Cutler, Trubisky, Fields and even Rex ever had.

 

[Wild_x_Card]

The thing about Poles that seems to be going over people's heads, something that's a major plus for him is he inherited a old roster with no cap space, in fact had dead money on the books and NO real draft capital to boot. To say it was a tall order to turn this ship around in fairly short order is an understatement.


People saying shit like anyone can tear down a team either have a terrible short term memory or are just plain ignorant.

 

[Myk]

The good thing for the McCaskeys is he really hasn't sunk a ton into offense and he has the defense in a pretty good place short of another pass rusher.

So this is what some are focused on.
That means he hasn't done like Emery and ignored defense because of the cost of offense. The order he did this rebuild with defense first has the defense better than Emery's so the McCaskeys shouldn't decide to fire him in another year if things aren't perfect.

 

[HeHateMe]

In my worst nightmare, I could never imagine being such an insufferable lying spineless douche nozzle.

If you want example of why you are so ridiculed look no further. You spend an entire off season talking shit about Williams and think there is some mystical"side" you are on and one you are battling, and the minute Williams is drafted you post a video about Poles dancing on his doubters as if you weren't 1-A in predicting the Williams pick was the worst idea ever.

Have a take and stick with it, your wrong and own it you, join the club at least you are respected. What you do is so embarrassing.

And spare me the, "I'm a Bears fan, so I am going to root for him," bullshit. You can not like the direction, state you don't, but hope you are wrong. Well... you can't, but humans with normal functioning emotional control can.

Wow this is almost a big an ether as @nvanprooyen's when MJY showed up here dozens of usernames ago..

My rankings:
Nvan
Yours
Dan Bernstein's

 

[KittiesKorner]

Wow this is almost a big an ether as @nvanprooyen's when MJY showed up here dozens of usernames ago..

My rankings:
Nvan
Yours
Dan Bernstein's

 

[HeHateMe]

You'll have to bump them. This is my top 3 but I know you probably should be wedged in there. Sorry!

 

[KittiesKorner]

You'll have to bump them. This is my top 3 but I know you probably should be wedged in there. Sorry!

That’s not what I meant! I was just enjoying our site’s emoticons! And sending some smuggy cuntness back to BrunoTheRed

 

[KittiesKorner]

You'll have to bump them. This is my top 3 but I know you probably should be wedged in there. Sorry!

Also, nvan’s is legend

 

[playthrough2001]

And Howie Roseman drafted Jalen Raegor over Justin Jefferson and spent a 4th on Robert Quinn who I technically never saw in a Eagles uniform.

All GMs have misses. Thanks

Exactly…

Ozzie Newsome drafted Kyle Boller.

Big Bill burned picks left and right.

Shit happens…