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Fair point. Now do the part where he's compared to a franchise that has a history of quality QB play and not the one that is known for the opposite.
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Oh wow. He made a play once. Every single OL in the NFL has tape of them making a block.
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It is amazing you big up the Lions OL and ignore the fact the OL makes a RBs job easy. Of his 4.6 YPC, only 2.41 came after contact. By contrast of Monty's 4.3 YPC, 3.09 came after contact so Monty is almost 0.7 yards better after contact.
If Swift ran behind the Bears line last year his YPC would be 3.63 vs 4.3 for Monty. If Monty ran behind the Lions line he would get 5.28 vs 4.6 for Swift.
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Well, at least you admit the Bears O-line is shit, I will give you that.
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Current 2021 fantasy rankings.........
Swift 16
Monty 20
Hockenson 4
Kmet 14
that one is laughable
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Except for Miller......
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Can I honestly ask why you post on this board? What is your reason? Banned from Lions boards? Why? What brought you here? And why?
Not expecting an honest answer. Just thought I would ask so you could throw some horseshit against the wall and see if it sticks.
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But you cant admit Monty is a better RB so I can't give you that.
Oh wow. Now preseason fantasy football rankings are being used to gauge how good someone is.
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So Monty was top 10 in yards, PFF grade and Fantasy points. Swift was 20th.
Imagine trying to ignore the real stats and pretend fantasy projections are relevant. Let's revisit once Swift actually finishes in the top 10. Until then the stats, PFF and actual Fantasy points say Monty is better.
And if Swift does have a good year lets see if he can improve on his yards after contact otherwise he is just a function of his OL. Monty is top 10 in that department again. Swift doesnt register in the top 30.
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Imagine using Fantasy rankings
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That is what an actual troll from another team looks like.
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Fantasy rankings do just fine to show what people outside of Bears and Lions fandom think of the respective players. If public opinion outside of these two areas thought Monty to be a better running back in 2021, Monty would be rated above Swift.
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Except no one is talking about who had better stats in 2020, the conversation is about who will be better in 2021, or does that part escape you? So yes, Monty had better overall yards, yippee for you, he also had 247 carries to Swifts 114. So congrats on Monty being a top ten back, but he also had the 4th most carries in the NFL last year. With Cohen back, his carries will most likely drop while Swift's will increase.But you cant admit Monty is a better RB so I can't give you that.
Oh wow. Now preseason fantasy football rankings are being used to gauge how good someone is.
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So Monty was top 10 in yards, PFF grade and Fantasy points. Swift was 20th.
Imagine trying to ignore the real stats and pretend fantasy projections are relevant. Let's revisit once Swift actually finishes in the top 10. Until then the stats, PFF and actual Fantasy points say Monty is better.
And if Swift does have a good year lets see if he can improve on his yards after contact otherwise he is just a function of his OL. Monty is top 10 in that department again. Swift doesnt register in the top 30.
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Exactly. I'd rather Mustipher be back at C. Daniels was terrible as a C. He's better as a Guard.
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No fantasy tells us who people think will score the most fantasy points. As Monty has several decent RBs in the backfield and the Bears have better WRs, one can think Swift will get more fantasy points because he is the only offensive weapon worth a damn and he has a good OL.
But again. Monty had 3.09 yards after contact which is top 10 while Swift had 2.41 which is outside the top 30.
And you are proving my point. What fantasy projections are measuring is not who is the better back but who they think will score more fantasy points. Swift may score more fantasy points as he doesnt have decent RBs to take carries from him, the Lions suck at WR so probably should run more and the Lions OL is good at run blocking. None of that actually makes Swift a better RB as those things are not things he controls.
What he does control is the yards after contact and again Monty is far superior to him in that metric. Monty is good because the bulk of his yards were gained after contact. His OL only gave him 1.21 yards before contact. Swift's OL gave him 2.19 yards before contact. You are in effect trying to give Swift credit for having a better OL.
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I think it’s definitely improved with better depth. But Nagy has struggled finding ways to hide the offensive lines weaknesses in the past with his stubborn playcalling.
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And you notice he didn't answer an actual honest question.
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Never does. He's known for picking and choosing what he wants to respond to.
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Tom Brady never goes high in our fantasy draft....he must suck.
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Err ahh, Lions have jamall williams. and a pair of 4.3 WR's that will keep the secondary honest. Time will tell what perriman can do.
Again, Monty is a top 10 back because of carries, after that he is just a good back, not bad, not great. Blah blah blah yards after contact. Tell Monty to stop stutterer stepping and hit the hole with a burst and he won't get contacted in the backfield as much.
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Lmao. Look at the stats for GB for when Aaron Jones was on the field and when Williams was on the field. You know GB considered him a liability?